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Perhaps NOT a fan of Hank Williams Jr.? (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2012 OP
LOL Perhaps not! GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #1
Honey Badger don't give a shit Burma Jones Sep 2012 #2
Inspired bongbong Sep 2012 #3
I wonder how long that one sat sharp_stick Sep 2012 #4
Good one! jsr Sep 2012 #5
Someone is channeling the Duchess. hifiguy Sep 2012 #6
My thought as well! babylonsister Sep 2012 #7
Yowch! flakey_foont Sep 2012 #8
the phrase "redneck white trash" datasuspect Sep 2012 #9
Offensive, yes Marrah_G Sep 2012 #11
simple test datasuspect Sep 2012 #12
I disagree Marrah_G Sep 2012 #16
which history? datasuspect Sep 2012 #17
Have a nice day, Datasuspect Marrah_G Sep 2012 #19
dang datasuspect Sep 2012 #22
If I called a man "lady" in a beer joint in Southeast Texas, I'd be likely to Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #30
Except ann--- Sep 2012 #18
but the term "white trash" is most derisive to those who are NOT white Care Acutely Sep 2012 #21
Not quite... Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #31
Yeah, uh, it's not 1830, or even 1854. Usages evolve. Care Acutely Sep 2012 #32
Ohhhhhh SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marrah_G Sep 2012 #10
The first sentence of Honey Badger's post--most excellent. TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #13
I'm surprised Williams has such an Obama-esque avatar. What's up with that? Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2012 #14
I can't see what the wording on the icon says... Myrina Sep 2012 #26
The big word is "COUNTRY" but there seems to be 3 little words right above it. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2012 #29
"That ain't no Hank Williams song!" HopeHoops Sep 2012 #15
Oh snap!!!! Initech Sep 2012 #20
Honey Badger don't care LibertyLover Sep 2012 #23
Me too! Honey Badger says what I would have said! Except I can't. calimary Sep 2012 #24
I find this offensive to all rbrnmw Sep 2012 #25
Jr is pissing in his own post toasties for sure madokie Sep 2012 #27
That's talent Kurovski Sep 2012 #28

Burma Jones

(11,760 posts)
2. Honey Badger don't give a shit
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

Although, I take some offense.....I do scratch my ass and have been known to swill a little beer now and then.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
3. Inspired
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
Sep 2012

That's some real down-home type face-bookin' there!

"Trans-Camaro with a pitbull chained to it" is LITERALLY true of oh-so-many folks out in Chickens-Voting-For-Colonel-Sanders land.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
9. the phrase "redneck white trash"
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:04 PM
Sep 2012

is as offensive as the word "nigger."

just saying.

nothing funny about either.

postscript: just a little bit of waylon, sho goes a long way.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
12. simple test
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:11 PM
Sep 2012

go call someone that at a beer joint in southeast texas (or any working class community) and see if you don't get the shit slapped out of you.

offensive enough.

it would be the same if you walked into a barber shop anywhere in any black community and called someone a nigger.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
17. which history?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:30 PM
Sep 2012

whose version?

are we using primary and secondary sources, oral histories, what should i be looking for?

the thing about group suffering pissing contests is that there is always something you can trot out to say who suffered more.

i say the suffering in itself is enough.

it adds nothing and is injurious to people when you use phrases like redneck white trash.

or do you condone that phrase?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
30. If I called a man "lady" in a beer joint in Southeast Texas, I'd be likely to
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012

get the shit slapped out of me. Is the word "lady" as offensive as n****r?

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
18. Except
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:31 PM
Sep 2012

"redneck white trash" were never slaves - in fact, they OWNED the slaves. Those who behave like lowlife rednecks deserve all the derision they get. especially Hank Williams, Jr.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
21. but the term "white trash" is most derisive to those who are NOT white
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

"White trash" says that the intended target is too trashy to be white - it assumes that it would be understandable and permissible to be such low-life trash if only the intended were some other race.

Yes, HW Jr., and his fellow lowlifes deserve many insults, but "white trash" is more offensive and insulting to people who are not white than it is to them. As an epithet, it's not only racist, it totally misses it's mark.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
31. Not quite...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012
The term white trash first came into common use in the 1830s as a pejorative used by house slaves against poor whites. In 1833 Fanny Kemble, an English actress visiting Georgia, noted in her journal: "The slaves themselves entertain the very highest contempt for white servants, whom they designate as 'poor white trash'".[5][6]

In 1854, Harriet Beecher Stowe wrote the chapter "Poor White Trash" in her book A Key to Uncle Tom's Cabin. Stowe tells the reader that slavery not only produces "degraded, miserable slaves", but also poor whites who are even more degraded and miserable. The plantation system forced those whites to struggle for subsistence. Beyond economic factors, Stowe traces this class to the shortage of schools and churches in their community, and says that both blacks and whites in the area look down on these "poor white trash".[7]


https://www.google.com/search?q=%22white+trash%22+origins&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
26. I can't see what the wording on the icon says...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

... but Williams has made some pretty obnoxious anti-Obama/anti-logic statements in recent weeks, so maybe it's some kind of right wing attempt at a slam.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
29. The big word is "COUNTRY" but there seems to be 3 little words right above it.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:16 PM
Sep 2012

And to clarify my original post a bit, I think he's been outright threatening to Obama IIRC so if borrowing that look is supposed to be some sort of clever barb it's going to fly right over his fans' heads. And his.

calimary

(81,240 posts)
24. Me too! Honey Badger says what I would have said! Except I can't.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:07 PM
Sep 2012

To post on his Facebook page, you have to click "Like" and I can't do that. I can't say I like that hate-filled, willfully-ignorant Troglodyte.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
27. Jr is pissing in his own post toasties for sure
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:34 PM
Sep 2012

I think his cheese has slid off the cracker, is what I think

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