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TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:40 PM Jan 2020

Best suggestion I have heard today re John Bolton.

I was listening to MSNBC and I hear a commentator -- not sure who -- suggest the following:

If Bolton wants to testify and is agreeable to do so pursuant to a congressional subpoena, then let Schiff open the impeachment hearings and subpoena him again.

Works for me. If Bolton wants to put it out there -- most likely for his book sales -- that he has something to say, then let him say it or STFU.

JMHO

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Best suggestion I have heard today re John Bolton. (Original Post) TruckFump Jan 2020 OP
YES, main thing it to get info out to the public, raises pressure exponentially on GOP senators. tableturner Jan 2020 #1
The way I look at it NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #2
he will never be subpoena'd by the senate.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #3
Bolton specified being subpeonaed by the Senate Leith Jan 2020 #4
Yes! kag Jan 2020 #8
IMO, he would be hard put to say why he will only talk to the Senate. TruckFump Jan 2020 #11
He won't get soft treatment from Democratic impeachment managers/counsel! tableturner Jan 2020 #14
moscow already said no witnesses or documents.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #20
I could not agree more. Zolorp Jan 2020 #5
John Bolton as Nick Tortelli gratuitous Jan 2020 #6
Made that point earlier today here on DU and I wasn't watching tv. Definitely the right call. FreepFryer Jan 2020 #7
Kick and rec this Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #9
And doing it in front of a Democratic-led inquiry matt819 Jan 2020 #10
I saw someone suggest a quid pro quo between Bolton and 45. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #12
Agree. My theory since the assassination. Dealing drugs is so seductive... WheelWalker Jan 2020 #18
he was never subpoena'd by the house krawhitham Jan 2020 #13
They were going to Leith Jan 2020 #16
Correct. H2O Man Jan 2020 #17
This indeed! BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #15
Absolutely agree! Mickju Jan 2020 #19
Wouldn't be surprised if he lies under oath to protect the repubs mucifer Jan 2020 #21
+1 CrispyQ Jan 2020 #22

NewJeffCT

(56,832 posts)
2. The way I look at it
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jan 2020

if Bolton has something explosive to say during a public hearing, it would likely cause book sales of his to skyrocket.

getagrip_already

(15,738 posts)
3. he will never be subpoena'd by the senate....
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

The house has to do it. He can't refuse now. The house will be prosecuting the charges and he needs to be deposed on the record.

Leith

(7,834 posts)
4. Bolton specified being subpeonaed by the Senate
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jan 2020

That means to me that he wants the soft treatment from rethugs. He does not want the harder grilling that House Democrats would do.

That makes Bolton a coward and liar who wants to look tough and get away with everything he has done. What a snowflake.

kag

(4,097 posts)
8. Yes!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jan 2020

Also, he's pleased as punch that we might be going to war with Iran, so he's loving the orange menace right now. I don't trust him one bit to tell the truth about what really happened. Even under oath.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
11. IMO, he would be hard put to say why he will only talk to the Senate.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jan 2020

Would to me make his testimony -- and thus his book -- less credible as to any facts he sets out.

tableturner

(1,718 posts)
14. He won't get soft treatment from Democratic impeachment managers/counsel!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jan 2020

Just like in the House, the Republicans in the Senate will give him soft treatment, but also like in the House, the Democrats will NOT give him soft treatment. Therefore, it would be the same regardless of which house of Congress has him testify.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
5. I could not agree more.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jan 2020

Schiff definitely needs to subpoena him to testify. The articles can always be amended.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. John Bolton as Nick Tortelli
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

If you remember the sitcom "Cheers," waitress Carla's ex-husband Nick Tortelli showed up from time to time trying to win back her affection. In one episode, he wanted to show Carla how serious he was about how he had changed and that she should take her back. He positioned the tea light at the table and said he was going to hold his hand over it until she agreed to give him another chance. Carla tried to talk him out of it, but Nick was adamant. Finally, Carla tells Nick to forget it, she's never going back to him. Nick makes good on his threat, and holds hand over the candle . . . at the highest point he can reach. Carla points out to Nick that that's not very persuasive, and it would be more dramatic if he held his hand much closer to the candle. Nick says, "What, there are rules to this?"

In the same way, Bolton knows the Senate is never going to issue him a subpoena, just like Nick knew that the candle wasn't going to burn his hand. Color me as severely unimpressed with John Bolton's sudden statement of civic duty.

redstatebluegirl

(12,276 posts)
12. I saw someone suggest a quid pro quo between Bolton and 45.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jan 2020

Bolton has wanted that guy assassinated forever. The day after he is killed, Bolton agrees to testify, I bet to exonerate the orange menace.

WheelWalker

(9,034 posts)
18. Agree. My theory since the assassination. Dealing drugs is so seductive...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jan 2020

Bolton got to thinking he'd like a piece of the action himself. Put together his own little drug deal - why not? Everyone's doing it, after all.

Leith

(7,834 posts)
16. They were going to
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jan 2020

but Bolton's lawyer threatened to go to court to block it. So, it looks like the Democrats said "fuck it, he'll just refuse to show up like all the other trumpanzees." They withdrew the subpoena.

BlueMTexpat

(15,421 posts)
15. This indeed!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jan 2020

Exactly this.

He said that he hadn't testified before the House because he hadn't received a subpoena.

Note: I loathe Bolton and have steadily and consistently since 1982 - with very good personal reason to.

I also don't trust him at all. So I am somewhat torn when he says that he is willing to testify.

CrispyQ

(36,989 posts)
22. +1
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jan 2020

It's telling that he's only offered to testify to the chamber that he favors. I don't trust him or McConnell one fucking bit.

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