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intrepidity

(7,296 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 05:07 AM Jan 2020

Here's what I think Hyde did

First, his defensive Tweet about the "dweeb" Parnas: there's no way he didn't understand how connected Parnas was to Rudy. Hyde's whole MO was rubbing elbows with Power, hoping it would rub off.

“I was never in Kiev,” Mr. Hyde tweeted. “For them to take some texts my buddy’s and I wrote back to some dweeb we were playing with that we met a few times while we had a few drinks is definitely laughable.”

Second, who says he was in Kiev?

I believe that Hyde wanted to impress Rudy (via Parnas) and almost certainly took a trip to the Dark Web, where he solicited some Ukrainians to surveil Yovanovitch.

So, he wasn't there, himself. And likely used crypto currency to pay. I hope the FBI got his laptop today. I'm sure this guy isn't bright enough to know how to have covered his tracks.

Bookmark this post, let's see if this is correct. We should hear soon.

PS: fooling around on the Dark Web is probably also what inspired his paranoid psychotic break, too.
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Here's what I think Hyde did (Original Post) intrepidity Jan 2020 OP
he is a gun nut with fantasies lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #1
Remember Rudy's butt-dial? He said he needed lots of money for something. NCLefty Jan 2020 #2
Hyde would make he perfect fall guy mercuryblues Jan 2020 #3
+1 This! PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #5
He's a sick fuck. Have you seen his twitter feed from last night PuraVidaDreamin Jan 2020 #4
OMG! Delphinus Jan 2020 #7
How pathetic do you have to be to want to "impress" a buffoon smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #6
The reason Parnas lets Hyde off the hook... Trueblue Texan Jan 2020 #8
Bingo! We have another winner. MFGsunny Jan 2020 #9
They will get him la-trucker Jan 2020 #10

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. he is a gun nut with fantasies
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 05:18 AM
Jan 2020

of being a black ops assassin.

No doubt he contacted some local talent. For those who don't know, there are plenty of ex-FSB guys running around Kiev, many of them ethnic Russians... and they might have played this fool hoping he sends them some bitcoin as you suggest... but as for actually trying to take out an ambassador... well that would depend on who he dug up.

However, just because he is a drunk incompetent wannabe idiot... the INTENT is the crime... and I think from the tenor of his texts with Parnov, his intent was to be the intermediary for a contract killing of someone Trump was unable to fire even though he tried a number of times (and that story needs more light... Trump orders her fired and even Pompeo is reluctant to do it? WTF?)

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
2. Remember Rudy's butt-dial? He said he needed lots of money for something.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 05:47 AM
Jan 2020

These people have been paying people to do things or to be silent the WHOLE TIME. It's literally Trump's long-time M.O. See: Stormy Daniels, etc.

I think this butt-dial was after these events but it's a pattern. They pay people to do things they would not ordinarily do:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rudy-giuliani-butt-dials-nbc-reporter-heard-discussing-need-cash-n1071901

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
3. Hyde would make he perfect fall guy
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 06:45 AM
Jan 2020

whether the plot succeeded or not.

Parnas is a lot smarter and connected to the Russian mob. When Hyde was offering up an assassination plot, Parnas told him I will call you. What they talked about is anyone's guess. But the text messages revealed Hyde doing the offering and Parnas not taking the bait.

If the plot was found out, Hyde's drinking, mental instability and eventual psychiatric hold made him a perfect fall guy. He was considerate enough to write texts confirming his eagerness to kill a US ambassador. He is the type of guy this crew would keep around if things went awry. Everyone would point their finger at him claiming he's a drunk and mentally unstable. I didn't take him seriously when he made the threats. IOW exactly what they are doing right now.

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,101 posts)
4. He's a sick fuck. Have you seen his twitter feed from last night
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:42 AM
Jan 2020

Interaction between him and a woman
Total tRump ilk




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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. How pathetic do you have to be to want to "impress" a buffoon
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 08:13 AM
Jan 2020

like Rudy Giuliani. I swear, if whole shit-show wasn't so evil and fucked up, it would be hilarious.

Trueblue Texan

(2,429 posts)
8. The reason Parnas lets Hyde off the hook...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jan 2020

...Parnas is trying to save his own life. But if he characterizes the texts with Hyde with any reliability, it implicates him in a conspiracy to harm a US ambassador. He has to say Hyde is just a goofy drunk he never took seriously. Otherwise, he's in as much trouble as Hyde. He claims he didn't think they were breaking any laws, but he knows damn good and well surveilling Yovanovich and participating in a discussion about her possible assassination was a crime.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
9. Bingo! We have another winner.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:30 AM
Jan 2020

HYDE ..... what a swell name for a fall guy when the curtain goes up and the whole world will be playing Hyde-n-Seek.

Brilliant, Lev - brilliant.

 

la-trucker

(283 posts)
10. They will get him
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:16 AM
Jan 2020

Using the dark web and bitcoin also leaves tracks and can be analyzed by experts. He will then sing to save his hyde.

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