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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:45 AM Jan 2020

WashPo: Blacks deeply pessimistic about country under Trump

President Trump made a stark appeal to black Americans during the 2016 election when he asked, “What have you got to lose?” Three years later, black Americans have rendered their verdict on his presidency with a deeply pessimistic assessment of their place in the United States under a leader seen by an overwhelming majority as racist.

The findings come from a Washington Post-Ipsos poll of African Americans nationwide, which reveals fears about whether their children will have a fair shot to succeed and a belief that white Americans don’t fully appreciate the discrimination that black people experience...

More than 8 in 10 black Americans say they believe Trump is a racist and that he has made racism a bigger problem in the country. Nine in 10 disapprove of his job performance overall.

The pessimism goes well beyond assessments of the president. A 65 percent majority of African Americans say it is a “bad time” to be a black person in America. That view is widely shared by clear majorities of black adults across income, generational and political lines. By contrast, 77 percent of black Americans say it is a “good time” to be a white person, with a wide majority saying white people don’t understand the discrimination faced by black Americans.

“As a black person, you’ve always seen all the racism, the microaggressions, but as white people they don't understand this is how things are going for me,” said Tate, who said he is the only black male teacher in his school. “They don’t live those experiences. They don’t live in those neighborhoods. They moved out. It’s so easy to be white and oblivious in this country.”

Francine Cartwright, a 44-year-old mother of three from Moorestown, N.J., said the ascent of Trump has altered the way she thinks about the white people in her life.

“If I’m in a room with white women, I know that 50 percent of them voted for Trump and they believe in his ideas,” said Cartwright, a university researcher. “I look at them and think, ‘How do you see me? What is my humanity to you?’?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/black-americans-deeply-pessimistic-about-country-under-president-who-more-than-8-in-10-describe-as-a-racist-post-ipsos-poll-finds/2020/01/16/134b705c-37de-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html


This article raises an important point: for black Americans, the age of Trump hasn't just frustrated us about the direction of the country, but it also has changed how we feel about our place here and how we are seen and treated by our fellow Americans. I fear the social and psychic damage being done to us, not only by Trump himself, but by people we must live and work with whom we no longer can trust or feel safe among.

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WashPo: Blacks deeply pessimistic about country under Trump (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jan 2020 OP
That WAPO alert just came up on my cell. Talk about reporting the obvious! hlthe2b Jan 2020 #1
Obvious, yes gratuitous Jan 2020 #3
Yes. Good to see that someone, somewhere, is reporting on the concerns of black voters... Mister Ed Jan 2020 #5
I know, right? StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #8
More realistic than pessimistic, sad to say. n/t Mister Ed Jan 2020 #2
Unfortunately, that's true StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #4
8 in 10 African Americans believe Trump is a racist NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #6
Black people aren't stupid enough to believe Trump's lies about black unemployment StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #9
Most black people aren't stupid enough NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #12
Kick dalton99a Jan 2020 #7
This white woman agrees with them. yardwork Jan 2020 #10
People I know who voted for trump gave him a chance. pwb Jan 2020 #11

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
1. That WAPO alert just came up on my cell. Talk about reporting the obvious!
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:49 AM
Jan 2020

Still, given Trump is a cult leader, it is heartening to see that few AA's are susceptible.

Should be 100% reporting he is racist, but I'll take the 80% as reassuring. Some of those young enough to have not lived through the worst of racist America may be more willing to give benefit-of-the-doubt. (They really should listen to their elders).

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Obvious, yes
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jan 2020

But how many features of voters turned off by Trump have you seen recently? They're pretty few and far between. Though I have to take exception to the opening Trump quote to the black community the Post bowdlerized. He actually said, "What the hell have you got to lose?"

Mister Ed

(5,930 posts)
5. Yes. Good to see that someone, somewhere, is reporting on the concerns of black voters...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jan 2020

...instead of just making their 1,732,491st visit to that mythical diner somewhere in mid-America to interview the white patrons there.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. I know, right?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jan 2020

But I think that's just because they ran out of Trump supporters to talk to since every single last one of them has already been interviewed at least once.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. 8 in 10 African Americans believe Trump is a racist
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jan 2020

That means that 2 in 10 KNOW he's a racist.

still - glad to see the constant Trump talking point of low African American unemployment hasn't had an effect.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. Black people aren't stupid enough to believe Trump's lies about black unemployment
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jan 2020

The lies aren't for black people - even Trump knows we know better. The lies are to convince gullible white people they don't actively support a degenerate racist.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. Most black people aren't stupid enough
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jan 2020

but, if it sinks in with only 1 in 100, it can make a difference.



yardwork

(61,599 posts)
10. This white woman agrees with them.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jan 2020

Trump's appeal has AWAYS centered around racism, xenophobia and bigotry.

He announced his candidacy by demonizing immigrants from Mexico. Trump called them rapists and murderers. Nothing subtle there.

One of Trump's first acts as President was to prevent Muslims from entering the country. Not subtle at all.

We puzzle over why a voter could say they support Democratic candidates with widely different platforms but then vote for Trump. The answer is obvious. These voters are picking white men whose platforms seem to align with the voters' personal beliefs about race and immigration.

Many white voters are looking for racists to support. Believe it. They keep telling us.

pwb

(11,261 posts)
11. People I know who voted for trump gave him a chance.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jan 2020

Many were uninformed and liked his lies.. They know who he is now and will not vote for that again.

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