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Rick Wilson book: some Green Party candidates were GOP fronts to strip votes (Original Post) EveHammond13 Feb 2020 OP
Well documented RandySF Feb 2020 #1
Yep. Divide and conquer. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #2
Duh . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #3
Her name still triggers me. I see the faces of virtuous people I know that voted for her. IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #8
You mean folks like Nina Turner? /NT sdfernando Feb 2020 #18
Fraternizing but I don't know if she voted for Stein IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #23
She has publicly stated that she voted for Stein rather than Hillary. sdfernando Feb 2020 #25
BOO IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #26
Seems like the only safe thing to do is to continue supporting corporate Democrats. el_bryanto Feb 2020 #4
Does he name names? Mike 03 Feb 2020 #5
Which ones? Wabbajack_ Feb 2020 #6
There have been several in AZ running for state seats sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #7
Well if she didn't pretend to have "genuine beliefs" awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #10
Putin is very green at heart Kaiserguy Feb 2020 #27
If Stein had genuine ideals, she would have realized how John Fante Feb 2020 #28
Confirming what a lot of us already knew HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #9
Sad to say, Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #11
I had a Republican friend/acquaintance in college democrattotheend Feb 2020 #12
In walks bamagal62 Feb 2020 #13
You read my mind. BadgerMom Feb 2020 #19
You betcha Hekate Feb 2020 #29
It has always seemed interesting Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #14
It sucks that so many people continue to fall for it. nt ecstatic Feb 2020 #15
K&R UTUSN Feb 2020 #16
I know of one GOP operative ibegurpard Feb 2020 #17
As I've often said... markbark Feb 2020 #20
As mush as we may love to have party alternatives its not going to happen in our lifetimes yaesu Feb 2020 #21
Jill ***cough*** Stein. 11 Bravo Feb 2020 #22
And this in new how? paleotn Feb 2020 #24
It's one thing for us to suspect it and say it; it's quite another for a former GOP operative... Hekate Feb 2020 #30
It is nice to hear them finally admit to something we've known for years. paleotn Feb 2020 #31
Great book. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #32
We've known this since 1992, Rick. You just figgered it out? ::sigh: n/t TygrBright Feb 2020 #33
We need to find a doorway to form an alliance with real greens for this election. JudyM Feb 2020 #34
HINT: The Green Party hasn't done anything other than help Republicans win elections. dalton99a Feb 2020 #35

IADEMO2004

(5,597 posts)
8. Her name still triggers me. I see the faces of virtuous people I know that voted for her.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:03 PM
Feb 2020

Hated Hillary and gambled with the future of our republic.

IADEMO2004

(5,597 posts)
23. Fraternizing but I don't know if she voted for Stein
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:09 PM
Feb 2020

I'm talking about local people that have told me they voted for Stein.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. Seems like the only safe thing to do is to continue supporting corporate Democrats.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:56 PM
Feb 2020

I am voting blue for sure, but hope i can vote for a candidate that more closely reflects my democratic socialist views than that.

Bryant
http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Does he name names?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:58 PM
Feb 2020

I'm really curious about something.

One of my favorite writers in the world, Chris Hedges, seemed to get on that bandwagon big time in 2016. I'm trying to figure out if it was an honest mistake, or whether he was used, or whether he did so knowing exactly what he was doing.

sweetloukillbot

(11,244 posts)
7. There have been several in AZ running for state seats
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:02 PM
Feb 2020

They were recruiting homeless people to run as Green candidates.

awesomerwb1

(4,275 posts)
10. Well if she didn't pretend to have "genuine beliefs"
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:03 PM
Feb 2020

she couldn't have fooled as many people as she did....or taken their money for the infamous recounts.
There is a reason why she was invited to meet and sit at Putin's table....unless you think Putin is a green at heart.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
28. If Stein had genuine ideals, she would have realized how
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020

much of a threat Trump was to them and not played the "both sides are the same" card during the 2016 election.

She's the very definition of faux-prog.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Sad to say,
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:04 PM
Feb 2020

we have so many Single Issue Voters. Amazing how those folks are totally blind to the big picture and refuse to admit they are blind.

Sounds like we might see another effort to pull this off once again.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
12. I had a Republican friend/acquaintance in college
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:10 PM
Feb 2020

Tell me he spent the summer, as an intern for the PA Republican Party, collecting signatures to help get Green Party candidates on the ballot in PA.

Surprise me this does not.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,478 posts)
14. It has always seemed interesting
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:36 PM
Feb 2020

that the Greens show up at the end of a Democratic Presidency, seemingly to help ensure that the vote gets split enough for the Republican to win the EC- or at least create enough uncertainty about the vote to enable them to steal the election. I also have little doubt that Jill Stein was part of a larger Russian effort to help throw the election to Donald Trump. It has happened exactly twice in our recent history. Coincidence? I think not.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
17. I know of one GOP operative
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

specifically that was on the ballot as a Green in Montana in 2018. And I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate Greens who don't have legitimate beefs with the Democratic Party. But I fail to see how a Party that doesn't seem to want to do the work to change the process to be friendlier to multiple parties thinks it can skate in with a top of the ticket candidate in an election.
What the Green Party should be working on non-stop in every state where it can is ranked choice voting. If they aren't they aren't serious.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
21. As mush as we may love to have party alternatives its not going to happen in our lifetimes
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:59 PM
Feb 2020

as long as we live in a capitalistic oligarchy.

paleotn

(18,064 posts)
24. And this in new how?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:13 PM
Feb 2020

We've known that for years. And it's not just domestic GOP operatives. Foreign actors are in on the scam. Seriously, why would a relatively obscure American internist, professional low single digit candidate and all around crank show up for dinner with Vlad Putin and his entourage?

Hekate

(91,313 posts)
30. It's one thing for us to suspect it and say it; it's quite another for a former GOP operative...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

...to put it in writing.

paleotn

(18,064 posts)
31. It is nice to hear them finally admit to something we've known for years.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

It's kind of like the proverbial kid accused of stealing cookies because they're covered in cookie crumbs. Though I didn't see them steal the cookies, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Republican operatives many times are way too cute for their own good and not nearly as smart as they think they are.

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