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This nice chap from Idaho REALLY can't support Trump... (Original Post) Soph0571 Feb 2020 OP
Nice letter. I hope he doesn't mind but I may use some of his blueinredohio Feb 2020 #1
Me, too. murielm99 Feb 2020 #11
Amen for brother Jim. yonder Feb 2020 #2
We DO have some good folks here hermetic Feb 2020 #3
It gives one hope!! Soph0571 Feb 2020 #4
Yes, indeed hermetic Feb 2020 #5
Jim just listed the attributes Trumpers love. Cartoonist Feb 2020 #6
what is that "word count" at the end Skittles Feb 2020 #7
I'd guess the paper has a 200 word limit mnhtnbb Feb 2020 #9
Those things don't bother His Deplorables. They embrace him all the more. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2020 #8
Right. As long as they think he's hurting "the right people" they don't seem to mind. n/t Beartracks Feb 2020 #29
... Different Drummer Feb 2020 #10
Don't know how I did it, but I just got this bull shit garbage in my in box from the tyrant: Hulk Feb 2020 #12
Just hideous Soph0571 Feb 2020 #14
I'm sure like in ALL of these type of messages... Hulk Feb 2020 #15
Um, Nancy was not Speaker of the House when Trump was elected TexasBushwhacker Feb 2020 #20
But these are FACTS. Beartracks Feb 2020 #30
You see even in a deep red state like Idaho there are at least a few sensible people. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #13
Great LTTE!!! Martin Eden Feb 2020 #16
He is a mirror into their own hideous souls ? n/t Soph0571 Feb 2020 #18
As you say. dchill Feb 2020 #25
i thought it was barbtries Feb 2020 #26
Thanks for the article Martin Eden Feb 2020 #31
Excellent article; thanks for that. crickets Feb 2020 #33
In Westworld, they could reverse-engineer a Trumpist from this list of attributes. VOX Feb 2020 #17
Donnie's re-election campaign would fall into a deep sink-hole Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #19
K and R x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #21
Well said Mr. Sathe Blue Owl Feb 2020 #22
Idaho? That gives me hope! Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #23
Doesn't he "routinely break" more Commandments than that?? Rhiannon12866 Feb 2020 #24
Jim Sathe rocks it. Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #27
Great letter kimbutgar Feb 2020 #28
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #32
succinctly said Jim. /nt IcyPeas Feb 2020 #34

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
1. Nice letter. I hope he doesn't mind but I may use some of his
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:55 PM
Feb 2020

letter to write my own letter to the editor.

hermetic

(8,308 posts)
3. We DO have some good folks here
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:58 PM
Feb 2020

That ran in my local paper, though I'm not in Idaho Falls. We are scattered all about, here and there.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
4. It gives one hope!!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:01 PM
Feb 2020

I did a rant early this morning because it all felt rather hopeless - and then you see something like this and you think hell yeah. Hurrah!

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
8. Those things don't bother His Deplorables. They embrace him all the more.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:37 PM
Feb 2020

No conscience, no morality, no decency and above all, no common sense. Just hatred. They'll see it all burned down for hatred.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
12. Don't know how I did it, but I just got this bull shit garbage in my in box from the tyrant:
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:55 PM
Feb 2020

Not sure if this will stand or not, but I'm interested to see what these Nazi fascists are talking about. I didn't know I was on a reich wing mailing list, but I'll see what transpires. This is what I was sent:


Friend,

Nancy Pelosi will go down as the worst Speaker of the House in the history of our Nation.

Not only did she help lead the biggest Witch Hunt that our country has even seen, but then she threw a temper tantrum at the State of the Union by ripping up an official copy of President Trump’s Address.

It’s clear she’s lost her mind. She doesn’t have the best interest of America and its citizens at heart and it’s time for her to say so long and farewell.

When President Trump was elected, he promised you he would DRAIN THE SWAMP, including the Swamp Queen, Nancy herself. And, like always, he is making good on that promise.

We just drafted the Official Demand Nancy Resign Petition that we’re planning to send to her office and President Trump wants to get ONE MILLION American Signatures of Patriots telling Nancy her time is up.

President Trump wants to know who took a stand with him against Nancy, so we’re going to send the first 500 signatures directly to his phone for him to see.

Add your name NOW to our Official Demand Nancy Resign Petition and be one of the first names President Trump sees. >>

Nancy has been going crazy for a while now, and her ripping up the State of the Union Address was just the latest stunt in a long line of erratic behavior.

It’s clear she hates America and everything it stands for, and it’s time we show her the door.

We’re sending President Trump the first 500 petition signatures in ONE HOUR. Make sure he sees your name on that list.

Add your name to our Official Demand Nancy Resign Petition NOW.

Thank you,

Team Trump 2020

Such rabid bull shit!!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
15. I'm sure like in ALL of these type of messages...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

...they ask for a donation if you "agree"...or whatever. I was just shocked at how different the real world is from where these bastards dwell.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,186 posts)
20. Um, Nancy was not Speaker of the House when Trump was elected
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:27 PM
Feb 2020

It was the GREAT BLUE WAVE in 2018 that put the Democrats in control again. Whose fault was that? Contrary to Trump's finger pointing, Pelosi resisted impeachment until she could no longer. She didn't allow impeachment for his collusion with Russia. When he withheld military aid to Ukraine, that had already been approved by Congress, AND BY HIM, his behavior could not be ignored any longer.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
16. Great LTTE!!!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

Of course, it does raise the question as to why others can't see those very obvious traits in Trump -- or why, seeing what he is, they still flock to support this POtuS.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
26. i thought it was
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:27 AM
Feb 2020

cognitive dissonance, so i looked it up and discovered that's not it exactly. cognitive dissonance is demonstrated by my inability to quit smoking. so i searched for "why do trumpsters overlook all his bad traits and behaviors" and found this article:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits

which was I think insightful. What I think it misses is the effect of 20-30 years of propaganda. I truly do believe my brother is brainwashed by fox, while my sister is described better in this article. She's more a natural born authoritarian than he is.

none of it really helps me to understand how they can stare a fact straight in the face and just skip over it as if it didn't exist. "he steals babies from their loved ones and locks them up," you say. response, "they should have come here legally. it's the parents' fault."

i have these imaginary conversations with my siblings where i make the case so persuasively that these are un American crimes against humanity that they change their minds, but that's where it stays. they don't listen and they won't hear.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
31. Thanks for the article
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:02 PM
Feb 2020

I agree that decades of propaganda from Fox "news" and the likes of Rush Limbaugh have created a warped ideological belief system that is nearly impossible to break.

It is truly sad when a friend or relative falls prey to this widespread cult, the exposure to which may be a greater factor than any inherent personality traits.

crickets

(25,976 posts)
33. Excellent article; thanks for that.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:51 PM
Feb 2020

I have seen similar, but none that has mentioned the concept of relative deprivation in such clear terms. Selfishness isn't new, but the closing comments (and linked article at FiveThirtyEight) give some insight as to why there is Trump support in surprising economic brackets, support which is not necessarily explained by tendency to authoritarianism or bigotry alone.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. In Westworld, they could reverse-engineer a Trumpist from this list of attributes.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:09 PM
Feb 2020

Who knows, maybe that IS what actually happened.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
19. Donnie's re-election campaign would fall into a deep sink-hole
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:08 PM
Feb 2020

if more believers would do some serious thinking about whether he follows the teachings of the Nazarene instead of blindly following the blather of televangelists or preaching politicians on the make.

It looks like Mr. Sathe did some reading and thinking. I hope that the believers who’d mistakenly voted for Donnie in 2016 have a serious rethink between now and Election Day and may the number that choose prayer and reflection grow exponentially.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
23. Idaho? That gives me hope!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:48 AM
Feb 2020

That's a conservative state if I've ever seen one. Good on this guy's courage! Go Jim Sathe!!

kimbutgar

(21,141 posts)
28. Great letter
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:35 PM
Feb 2020

But I hope the guy doesn’t get targeted and threatened for speaking the truth. Idaho is a blood red state. The one redeeming thing is that mf45 supporters don’t read newspapers. They get their information by someone telling the news they should hear.

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