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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:09 PM Feb 2020

GOP Accused of Sending Misleading 'Census' Forms

GOP Accused of Sending Misleading ‘Census’ Forms

February 20, 2020 at 8:23 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 22 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/02/20/gop-accused-of-sending-misleading-census-forms/

"SNIP......

The Republican National Committee is sending documents labeled “2020 Congressional District Census” to people in California and across the country just weeks before the start of the official nationwide count of the country’s population, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Critics say the misleading mailers — in envelopes labeled “Do Not Destroy. Official Document” and including a lengthy questionnaire on blue-tinted paper similar to the type used by the real census — are designed to confuse people and possibly lower the response rate when the count begins in mid-March.

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GOP Accused of Sending Misleading 'Census' Forms (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2020 OP
Republicans ALWAYS pull crap like this DFW Feb 2020 #1
"designed to confuse people and possibly lower the response rate" LunaSea Feb 2020 #2
Yes. I wonder if it is a push poll too. They do that. applegrove Feb 2020 #3
They are nothing more than lowly cheaters. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #4
Word... check everything! defacto7 Feb 2020 #5
What kind of questions are on this form? Is it to be sent back? Where is it to be sent to? napi21 Feb 2020 #6
No the info will all go back to the republicans. And they can send applegrove Feb 2020 #7
I have some thoughts about this... 2naSalit Feb 2020 #8
a friend of my wife tweeted a photo of one.......... Takket Feb 2020 #9
Thanks. applegrove Feb 2020 #10
The first hint that it's fake is the title of the first section! "Your POLITICAL PROFILE"! n/t napi21 Feb 2020 #11
This is seriously messed up. JudyM Feb 2020 #13
Republicans and Russian government rockfordfile Feb 2020 #12
The kicker is at the VERY END of Katie Porter's prob - "We sent them at the request of Donald Trump" Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #14
"They must comply with us". Will make some hate government more applegrove Feb 2020 #15
I'm very interested to learn what areas/districts they targeted in California Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #16
I am sure the Democrats are reverse engineering the mailing as we speak. applegrove Feb 2020 #17
I'm assuming Katie Porter has all her ducks in a row and has everything documented.... Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #18
That is heartening. Make it a huge meme for how republicans treat applegrove Feb 2020 #19
He HATES California(ns)! shanti Feb 2020 #20
That's totally understood... Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #21
And you know what takes the cake? shanti Feb 2020 #22
California is nothing but an ATM machine (RAP) to the orange anus Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #23
You use your PIN number klook Feb 2020 #29
Interesting ck4829 Feb 2020 #25
What's your take on who they and us are? Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #28
K&R ck4829 Feb 2020 #24
And the voter verification mailings look like junk mail exboyfil Feb 2020 #26
Exactly. Someone should put the two together and show them to a judge. applegrove Feb 2020 #27
Guilty of not accused of n/t malaise Feb 2020 #30

DFW

(54,414 posts)
1. Republicans ALWAYS pull crap like this
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:17 PM
Feb 2020

They know their policies, taken at face value, will lose election for them. So, they cheat. They think it works better for them. Unfortunately, they're right.

LunaSea

(2,894 posts)
2. "designed to confuse people and possibly lower the response rate"
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:23 PM
Feb 2020

The data collection will be more valuable than any confusion created.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
4. They are nothing more than lowly cheaters.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

We should start calling them the cult of cheaters. And start calling -45 the cheater in chief.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
6. What kind of questions are on this form? Is it to be sent back? Where is it to be sent to?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:43 PM
Feb 2020

I'm trying to figure out if they are trying to get info useful to them! Maybe questions they arent allowed to ask on the actual census form?

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
7. No the info will all go back to the republicans. And they can send
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:45 PM
Feb 2020

out a free coupon for family dinner a chick filet for 5:45 PM on election day (or whatever they do with data).

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
8. I have some thoughts about this...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

having worked the census last time around. No authentic, official census worker will ask you any questions without showing you a Census ID with an expiration date of no more than sixty days from when you see it. They are required to advise you of the confidentiality of your responses and that no personal identifiable information will be disclosed or connected with you. Any information made public won;t be made public for 72 years. They have to tell you all of that before asking anything more than whether the address they think it is, is correct upon your agreement. They can only ask a set of questions and that's it.

So when would someone show up at your place?

In March, they will be verifying addresses and hand delivering the questionnaire if you don't have your own mailbox on the address property. 80% of my state was hand delivered so we had major ground operation. All others will come via USPS in your mailbox at the address. Read the heading carefully and all the questions first.

You should not be asked for your phone number in the first three operations that should go on until June. After that they may contact you to see if you know anything about a neighboring property, like if it's a vacation home or permanent residence. Rather benign.

But always check anyone's ID if they say they are from the census, they've all been fingerprinted. You can be nice but don't give them any more info than they ask for, which is on the questionnaire. And read the top if the form to make sure it's official.

ETA: read the BOTTOM of the form too!

Takket

(21,581 posts)
9. a friend of my wife tweeted a photo of one..........
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020

I cannot possibly fathom how this is legal. This is an intentional misrepresentation designed to trick people.

This isn't my wife's friend but someone else that tweeted it..........


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napi21

(45,806 posts)
11. The first hint that it's fake is the title of the first section! "Your POLITICAL PROFILE"! n/t
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:13 PM
Feb 2020

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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
15. "They must comply with us". Will make some hate government more
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020

when they throw it out and then get another in the mail.

Brother Buzz

(36,445 posts)
18. I'm assuming Katie Porter has all her ducks in a row and has everything documented....
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:12 AM
Feb 2020

so it might speed things up to start asking questions, starting with the California Republican Party, then move up the food chain.

I totally trust Katie Porter and her brain trust are going to run this to ground, and she already knows where the trail leads.

Brother Buzz

(36,445 posts)
21. That's totally understood...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:47 AM
Feb 2020

but I can't believe they think they could get away with blanketing the entire state without it blowing up in their face. I have no clue about what all the ramifications are, but I could accept they could target certain social economical areas and hope they can get away with it.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
22. And you know what takes the cake?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

He uses Nunes, a CA rep, as a cudgel against our mostly Dem state. A person most CA Dems cannot stand. He's vicious.

Brother Buzz

(36,445 posts)
23. California is nothing but an ATM machine (RAP) to the orange anus
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020
A Redundant Acronym Phrase (RAP) is a phrase containing an acronym plus a word or phrase such that, when the acronym is expanded, the phrase would contain a redundancy. This is best illustrated by an example: ATM machine. ATM is an acronym for automated teller machine.

Brother Buzz

(36,445 posts)
28. What's your take on who they and us are?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:05 AM
Feb 2020

"This was an order by Donald Trump to send out to the people and they must comply with us."

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
26. And the voter verification mailings look like junk mail
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:52 AM
Feb 2020

Instead of clearly stating in bold letters failure to return this card will eliminate you from the voter rolls.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
27. Exactly. Someone should put the two together and show them to a judge.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:57 AM
Feb 2020

Have it go to the supreme court in an expidited way because it is about who can vote. Let the Supreme Court rule. And then let the people vote on the whole web.

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