It's pretty clear from what we know about coronavirus that there will be no protecting against it

Not that we couldn't find other sources or manufacture them here, but I don't know how quickly that could happen. They won't help w/ the virus, but will help w/ pneumonia and other secondary bacterial infections.

be rushing to the doctor to see if their cold and flu symptoms are coronavirus?

we are all going to get it. some will die.

We will welcome them with open arms. And I'll give them 100%...

not really sure what the person you are responding to was trying to say about these people

...don’t see a doctor unless they absolutely have to—and maybe not even then. Says nothing about their character but a whole lot about their circumstances.

making special preparations for this in case it comes to us. Just thinking through my many experiences in ERs, I don't think we're well prepared to prevent disease spread in those areas.

Thoughts?

KY..........

He became ill suddenly(at night, of course) and couldn't even stand up. I suspected a stroke so I called for an ambulance. He went through triage, they put him in a wheelchair and then we waited six hours before finally getting several tests and treatment which consisted of a couple of bags of fluid for rehydration. Then they sent us home over my protests. I wasn't sure I could get him back up the stairs and into bed. They told us to visit our GP the next day which was a Friday. When I phoned the Doctor the next next morning the best they could do was a visit with the nurse practioner on the following Tuesday.

But the waiting room was hellish. Full of people of all ages-babies to us old folks- coughing all over each other. One woman in a wheelchair had pulled her blanket over
her head. No way to tell if she was dead or alive under there. Another woman with long dark hair doubled over in her wheel chair, hair hanging nearly to the floor. I never saw her face.

When I had to go to urgent care New Year's Eve a couple of years ago same thing-people were packed together like sardines. That visit only took about four hours but I swore to myself I'd never do it again. I'll stay home and take my chances.

What a nightmare it will become when those waiting areas are filled with with Coronavirus victims!

As the World Health Organization has already stated, we simply are not prepared.

Best wishes and safety to you and your family in this ordeal........

so it came on without preparations . I can only hope we as a system will be more prepared since we are aware ahead of time

❤️

I don't think it's just me being jaded, you seem to actually care. Your patients are fortunate to have you.

If you're picturing a suffering saint, don't. I do it because I love it. It has its stresses, irritations, and inconveniences like any other job. But it's the most rewarding job I've ever had.

enjoy it, I have had one doctor like that and I loved him, truly a good person, it broke my heart when he moved.

I'm usually posting the complaints. In homeless medicine, a good day is an uneventful one...

drugs or loitering in front of your office, I can't remember exactly what happened, you felt bad and brought him a cup of coffee afterwards. I found it touching.

If word gets to the cops that we're a shooting gallery, there is going to be a hard time of it.

As for the coffee, it was liberal guilt. It was 6:30 in the morning and very cold. I'm in a warm office with fresh hot coffee. I couldn't shoo him away without trying to make up for it a little...

And I thank you for having the compassion and stamina to help any who come to you.

We are Democrats and THIS is what makes us different.

Idiot in the Whitehouse who has appointed a cabinet of dunces.

Now faced with a massive crisis.

Who's he going to assign to this?

Omarosa?

How about bringing Brownie back?

What a fucking nightmare.

Because if he does, it will hurt his precious economy and that would severely hurt his re-election chances.

she's back to fuck up some more things.

I am sure even hating him they would to save the country.

government's. rump really messed up big time with this mass firings/redo of an dept., again, repugs doing some housecleaning to save a few cheap bucks so their rich donor friends could even get more money.

The virus may mutate and be less fatal, since the lethal versions will Darwin itself.

in this case, its quite clear that the host lives a long long time, infecting lots of other hosts, until they die.

Patient Zeros that transfer it across borders and it will require massive supply and resource deployments and it will require a very pro-active CDC response team.

So, yes. I stand corrected. We're screwed.

* https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213010755

If this is true this is a disaster unfolding in front of us.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/baseless-conspiracy-theories-claim-new-coronavirus-was-bioengineered/

mostly in Asia and has been of little concern. But it mutates more easily than the flu viruses. So, no need for the manufactured claims for such a mutation to occur by itself relatively easily.

work against this virus.

Might be a good time to load up on Antitoxidents like Vit-C, Greens etc.

Also regular fresh excercise but avoid indoor gyms and other people who might have it.

antioxidants won't help pneumonia

They don't know they are dealing with IMO.

I heard if you are rh- you may be immune.

Any thought on this? Anyone???

But it could help against opportunistic infections that cause complications such as pneumonia.

Hey, we’ll take anything we can get at this point.

It would not for viral pneumonia.

And its a viral pneumonia not bacterial why regular drugs won’t work.

Bullshit.

There are a lot of people on this planet.

It's going to get around but not everyone in 2 years. That's not likely.

The slow progression makes it more dangerous on a macro level, not less.

for use until early 2021.

We should be able to vaccinate in less than the 2 years mentioned.

The common flu has a rate of less than .01% yet even at that rate thousands die from it every year. So you can imagine how many will die if this coronavirus turns into a pandemic. Deaths will be in the millions. It's very scary.

Not the black plagues, not the Russian flu in the 19th century, not the Spanish flu 1918, not the Asian flu 1958, not the Hong Kong flu of 1968.
The worst last century was the 1918 flu which infected 650+ million people worldwide and killed between 50 and 100 million. But they didn't have the medical advancements or epidemic controls we have now. They also had WWI to exasperate the problem. The Hong Kong flu '68 killed 1 million worldwide but only 34,000 in the US. Of course COVID-19 isn't the flu.

We do need to prepare though and panic won't help.

I'm also starting to pull back from the virus threads. It looks like most people are getting the idea or they knew all along, I don't know. It's time for me to make sure my own ducks are in order. It's strange looking back and seeing this as possibly my 3rd maybe 4th pandemic. Life cycles you know. Be well.

I doubt this virus will surpass it.

I'll go with the possible 40% to 70% number being repeated by the experts. But I like your number better. This is not the Spanish flu though, little resemblance so who knows.

Plus medical technology has improved greatly over the past 100 years.

and yes, medicine has been modernized - much of that transition took place because of the 1918 flu. (See the book "The Great Influenza"

But modern air travel (which China never shut down) is a major game changer. Plus the fact that people seem to be asymptomatic for a _long_ time while they are still contagious. That's what makes this such that quaranting will only slow, not contain it.

Common as today where we have millions of cars, airplanes, etc.

And before we bought products from overseas or most people bought them.

For many, antibiotics will be useless. The antibiotics will only help for cases of secondary bacterial pneumonia.

the virus kills by infecting the lungs which are then also susceptible to bacterial pneumonia,

Here is a website with a Chinese video from a Hong Kong hospital on how to make one out of paper towels. Might come in handy before long.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8006937/How-make-coronavirus-mask-Hong-Kong-officials-release-DIY-video.html

not for keeping yourself safe before you are infected. For that, scrub your hands and stop touching your face, and stop touching things in public.

As a weapon against us, especially when they close in on him for his crimes.