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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:09 PM Mar 2020

Family of coronavirus patient in Missouri refuse to self-quarantine--go to party and school dance

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/coronavirus/family-of-missouri-s-first-coronavirus-patient-broke-self-quarantine/article_94fe6bf6-f679-5b88-870c-18c5f79d019b.html

Family of Missouri's first coronavirus patient broke self quarantine, St. Louis County officials say

...the father and sister of the infected patient attended a school father-daughter dance Saturday night at the Ritz-Carlton in Clayton. They also apparently attended a pre-dance gathering at the house of a Villa student.

St. Louis County Executive Sam Page said Sunday that the patient’s family had been told on Thursday to self quarantine at their home in Ladue. Page said the patient's father had not followed health department instructions. Page spoke at a news conference Sunday evening.

County health officials told the man on Sunday, Page said, "that he must remain in his home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay in their home by the force of law."

The Villa Duchesne message advises students and parents, “If you attended the dance, please be attentive to any symptoms you are experiencing.”
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Family of coronavirus patient in Missouri refuse to self-quarantine--go to party and school dance (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Mar 2020 OP
Fucking idiots. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #1
Selfish SOBs. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #2
Selfish. Exactly. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #43
Trumpers? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #13
Yes, most likely. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #17
It is a hoax after all. nt sheshe2 Mar 2020 #18
The denial of science is going to kill a lot of people if we don't get rid of Blue_true Mar 2020 #20
Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #21
The Ritz Carlton GusBob Mar 2020 #27
Umhmm! sheshe2 Mar 2020 #29
Very upscale area sunnybrook Mar 2020 #56
the father and sister of the infected patient attended a school father-daughter dance Celerity Mar 2020 #47
All it takes is a few selfish morons like that The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #3
This is another reason why people are hording food and household products eleny Mar 2020 #4
State and local jurisdictions need to get out ahead of this and start charging people who RockRaven Mar 2020 #5
Well, for that they need to start issuing orders for someone to self-quarantine, not just asking LisaL Mar 2020 #14
It may well come to that Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #50
This is going to happen over and over in red hat world..... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #6
and there's the religious factor. The supernatural protection defacto7 Mar 2020 #15
Yeah. I've heard 2 interviews where they quote Psalms something or other. Say they are protected. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #23
"Villa Duchesne and Oak Hill" is a private Catholic school dalton99a Mar 2020 #24
Proving the rich aren't that smart. And often selfish as all get out. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #26
Catholics?! I thought Christian Scientists matched that description. Beartracks Mar 2020 #35
That's definitely one of the central tenets of Chri-Sci defacto7 Mar 2020 #49
Point out that customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #30
Actually it came from Asia. Killed a shit ton of people there as well. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #37
The Iranian military stated that they have evidence defacto7 Mar 2020 #51
Didn't hear this but am not surprised. Have to laugh now, how much do you think they damaged ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #54
Oh yeah, I'm hearing that here in wingnut territory spinbaby Mar 2020 #55
It's also going to happen over and over in the blue state world as well hack89 Mar 2020 #53
Sorry but SoCalNative Mar 2020 #57
Which is why working poor people will avoid the doctor's office or ER hack89 Mar 2020 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Nonhlanhla Mar 2020 #7
Fox News and trump told him it was all a hoax JDC Mar 2020 #8
but they can go to work, right? stillcool Mar 2020 #9
I guarantee you they are MAGAts Skittles Mar 2020 #10
Coronavirus + affluenza (based on a quick peek at Ladue, MO on realtor.com). SMC22307 Mar 2020 #25
I live nearby...most of Ladue is over-stuffed with entitled rich assholes, but not all. Moostache Mar 2020 #44
Best wishes, Moostache. We're all on pins and needles. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #59
Take care, Moostache. SMC22307 Mar 2020 #62
Damn uponit7771 Mar 2020 #11
What sort of megadouche would go to someone's HOUSE knowing BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #12
Future Darwin Award nominees? Initech Mar 2020 #16
Lots of inexplicable behavior and blame to go around here gristy Mar 2020 #19
So true customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #31
Hope they have military base facilities or something set up to isolate "by force of law." pat_k Mar 2020 #22
Death is just a bad hoax according to Trump and FOX News TeamPooka Mar 2020 #28
That dad is an irresponsible asshole. Fuck. What was he thinking? SunSeeker Mar 2020 #32
Those types will probably cough on people at gunpoint... Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2020 #33
Trying to "prove" it's a hoax? Beartracks Mar 2020 #34
Father-daughter dance, huh? This story is creepy on top of scary. Goodheart Mar 2020 #36
Ivanka gave her dad a lap dance when she was 13. And no! I will not post photos. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #39
Those father daughter dances are very creepy. Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #41
Homicide charges if anyone contracts virus and dies. aeromanKC Mar 2020 #38
Selfish assholes. No doubt 45 supporters. nt Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #40
They could end up murdering many people. I hope they get sued if someone they infect dies! nt Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #42
All they had to do was watch FOX KT2000 Mar 2020 #45
selfish Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #46
By people ignoring the warnings duforsure Mar 2020 #48
I think it does have criminal penalties, defacto7 Mar 2020 #60
Trash... n/t kysrsoze Mar 2020 #52
Good 'ole American unfettered freedom of movement, independence and stupidity.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #61

sunnybrook

(1,156 posts)
56. Very upscale area
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

I used to live in St. Louis. Ladue is the bastion of private schools and residences with housekeepers.

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
47. the father and sister of the infected patient attended a school father-daughter dance
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:40 AM
Mar 2020
father-daughter dance




eleny

(46,166 posts)
4. This is another reason why people are hording food and household products
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mar 2020

They know that there are people who won't do the prudent thing or even follow lawful direction.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
5. State and local jurisdictions need to get out ahead of this and start charging people who
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mar 2020

defy quarantine directions. Examples need to be made, immediately, to get people's attention that this is not trivial shit. Drop the hammer on these people, whatever hammer exists, however large or small, use the fucking thing.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
14. Well, for that they need to start issuing orders for someone to self-quarantine, not just asking
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:25 PM
Mar 2020

them.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
50. It may well come to that
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

I'm sure that health officials are trying the least restrictive, less draconian approach first. I suppose that they are going to have to start becoming progressively stricter to help prevent situations like this.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
6. This is going to happen over and over in red hat world.....
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mar 2020

They don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Hopefully they stayed among their own kind.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
15. and there's the religious factor. The supernatural protection
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:27 PM
Mar 2020

of their deity makes them impervious to the ills of the lost through their blind faith. Blind faith is what they call it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. Yeah. I've heard 2 interviews where they quote Psalms something or other. Say they are protected.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 12:36 AM
Mar 2020

These superstitious, Middle Ages mind set people are going to kill people.

On edit. If those SOBs got me or my family sick I would sue the shit out of them. It’s one thing to spread it without knowing you have been exposed. Totally innocent. But breaking quarantine is wanton endangerment.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
26. Proving the rich aren't that smart. And often selfish as all get out.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 12:42 AM
Mar 2020

I doubt my middle ass would not be allowed on the grounds. Well, that and I think their religion is superstition.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
49. That's definitely one of the central tenets of Chri-Sci
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:39 AM
Mar 2020

but other groups not only Christians but Muslims choose to be extreme based on their particular sect , Diocese, synod, or just by whoever their leader happens to be. Sometimes it's just a local decision.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
30. Point out that
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 12:52 AM
Mar 2020

the Black Plague was in Europe, the only continent that was of the Christian faith. Jaysus did a poor job of looking out for "his" people back then, why would it be any different today?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. Actually it came from Asia. Killed a shit ton of people there as well.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:08 AM
Mar 2020

Republicans are now working to blame China for a virus. They truly are deplorable and stupid. It’s a virus. A bundle of DNA with an RNA coat. Or something like that. Been 35 years since I studied that shit.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
51. The Iranian military stated that they have evidence
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:45 AM
Mar 2020

that it is a biological attack against them. They seem to have softened their rhetoric as this has spread to friend and foe alike. An equalizer has its philosophical advantages.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
54. Didn't hear this but am not surprised. Have to laugh now, how much do you think they damaged ...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

reputation by claiming such unfounded claims (that CV is a biological agent)? A rhetorical question of course. Thanks for posting. There is so much news out there it is hard to track all of it.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
55. Oh yeah, I'm hearing that here in wingnut territory
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:00 AM
Mar 2020

Here in rural western PA, I’ve heard:

The Chinese spread Coronavirus on purpose because of tariffs.

It’s a common cold being hyped by Democrats to get Trump.

More people die of flu, drug overdose, car crashes, etc, etc.

I think that covers the major theories.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
53. It's also going to happen over and over in the blue state world as well
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

there are too many people with no healthcare and/or sick days. They have no choice but to continue working.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
57. Sorry but
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:07 AM
Mar 2020

then the local or state health departments will need to get involved, ordering quarantines, slapping giant quarantine signs on their doors and putting an armed guard there, if necessary.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
58. Which is why working poor people will avoid the doctor's office or ER
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:16 AM
Mar 2020

they will gut out their illness and not tell anyone, gambling that they will be ok. If you hide your illness then the local health department can't do much.

Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

JDC

(10,130 posts)
8. Fox News and trump told him it was all a hoax
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:16 PM
Mar 2020

I'm sure their neighbors and the folks they interacted with are just fine with this....

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. but they can go to work, right?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020

as long as they feel fine, no biggie. I heard it from the President of the United States.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
25. Coronavirus + affluenza (based on a quick peek at Ladue, MO on realtor.com).
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 12:40 AM
Mar 2020

Nothing will keep Thurston from a dance at the Ritz, dahlink!

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
44. I live nearby...most of Ladue is over-stuffed with entitled rich assholes, but not all.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:44 AM
Mar 2020

Those people are Trump through and through.
Racist as hell, anti-intellectual, many born on third and aren't even smart enough to know what a triple IS...

The problem is I have been to those events in the past...LOTS of glad handing, shaking of hands, patting on the back and the girls running around and hugging and jumping on each other. I also have had interactions with people from those social circles in just the last few weeks too, it is unavoidable in the St. Louis business community...

You literally could not paint a picture more likely to spread any virus on surface contact or human to human if you tried...

This whole thing has now reached within less than 10 miles from my door (from China to Missouri in under 4 months! - makes the plague look like a joke)...

I have gone from angry to terrified of what may be coming and I can't sleep or think rationally at the moment. I am going to have a really hard time tomorrow. This is out of control.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
59. Best wishes, Moostache. We're all on pins and needles.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:28 AM
Mar 2020

My son (mid-thirties) is with me and can do the running. He's also now in college and I worry about what he might pick up in class or at the store. We've done the drill on hand washing and limiting exposure.

We just got our first case over the weekend here in Louisville.

If that damn virus don't get us, the stress may very well.........

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
62. Take care, Moostache.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020

Idiot-in-Chief gladhanding today along a fundraising line certainly isn't helping matters. People gotta take this seriously.

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
12. What sort of megadouche would go to someone's HOUSE knowing
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:23 PM
Mar 2020

he and his daughter potentially carried the virus? Bad enough public spaces, but someone's HOUSE? Used their silverware, used their toilets, touched all the doorknobs?

gristy

(10,667 posts)
19. Lots of inexplicable behavior and blame to go around here
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020

1. Yes, the father and sister certainly should have remained self-quarantined. This is a tremendous failure.
2. But also, the parents at the pre-dance gathering should never have had that gathering. What were they thinking?
3. And the father-daughter dance should have been cancelled.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
33. Those types will probably cough on people at gunpoint...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 12:59 AM
Mar 2020

... eventually.

“It’s my right to be an asshole! MAGA!”

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
34. Trying to "prove" it's a hoax?
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:00 AM
Mar 2020

But when other people start getting sick after the dance, they can say, "You can't prove it was us!!1!"



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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
39. Ivanka gave her dad a lap dance when she was 13. And no! I will not post photos.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:12 AM
Mar 2020

They are easy to find online.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
41. Those father daughter dances are very creepy.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:19 AM
Mar 2020

Little girls dressed like brides or in prom dresses as if on a date with an eligible boy. Then wiggling and dancing for their daddy. Can you say incestuous?

My daughter made it to adulthood just fine without any of those weirdly creepy dances. Though they were popular here in the South when she was growing up.

Why any father thinks such weirdness is necessary is beyond me. And to break a quaranteen during a pandemic in order to expose your child to such weirdness is beyond rational.

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
45. All they had to do was watch FOX
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:32 AM
Mar 2020

and hear over and over that this is no big deal - just hype.

This is exactly why trump and others have to stop. Trumpers will spread the disease faster than anything else.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
48. By people ignoring the warnings
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:48 AM
Mar 2020

By going out into the public knowing they could be infected should have criminal penalties for it, or others will continue this dangerous trend.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
61. Good 'ole American unfettered freedom of movement, independence and stupidity....
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

could be what kills us all. If not this, then ultimately climate change........


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