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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:42 PM Mar 2020

Interesting conversation overheard in the barber shop

Went to get a haircut this morning. Old fashioned place not a salon.

5 other people in the office barbers included, all trump supporters as are most of the white males of my age group in Lake County. . The first thing I heard was one of the barbers explaining how the virus is and engineered disease made by combining SARS with the cold virus. I thought, here they go.

Then one of the said Trump is really screwing this up even though I support him. The guy who said it is a roofing contractor and an Airborne veteran if the stickers on his truck are to believed. I was shocked when they all agreed with him. My barber said I voted for him but if he does not get a handle on this he won’t be re-elected. I had said nothing the whole time because I generally do not engage in these types of scenarios. But my barber asked what I thought. All I said was that this is the first real crisis he did not create himself and you cannot bully or out tweet a virus. No one disagreed.

Now, they are all real concerned about the theme parks closing which would kill their businesses since we live in the Orlando area. Our economy is under tremendous threat.

Anyway, at least some of them have started questioning. I expected they all will end up voting for him but even if 5 percent of his base sits it out he is in trouble.

Thought I would share since it is the first time in 3 years I have heard any of his supporters questioning him at all.

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Interesting conversation overheard in the barber shop (Original Post) GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 OP
If even 5% of his base loses faith, he is well and truly lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #1
He was "elected" on razor thin margins in swing states... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #5
trump has not made many new friends since 2016. mwb970 Mar 2020 #30
trump has not made many new friends since 1980 Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #31
Anybody in tourism and hospitality will be in trouble this spring... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #2
This. What's going to happen during spring break? Will everyone stay japple Mar 2020 #24
I have a stack of odd jobs around my house that I plan on getting done! flying_wahini Mar 2020 #45
It's started and they're all here. tavernier Mar 2020 #49
As they have been since the 1950's. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #51
I have a grandson who was a souvenir. tavernier Mar 2020 #53
Yes there were a lot of those little souveniers from there. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #55
Expensive souvenir Rorey Mar 2020 #56
Was listening yesterday to how much harm cancelling SXSW is doing/did to Austin. efhmc Mar 2020 #46
k & r LAS14 Mar 2020 #3
This will finish him off malaise Mar 2020 #4
'this is the first real crisis he did not create himself and you cannot bully or out tweet a virus. elleng Mar 2020 #6
Yeah, nicely done on that point. coti Mar 2020 #9
Thanks but I heard it here on DU and filed it away. Not smart enough to think of it on my own! GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #10
This is a good capsule summary gratuitous Mar 2020 #17
Great news, 66 - sorry it took a raging plague to wake trumpers up, but... Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #7
5 percent- you're right, we don't need to be winning hearts and minds, we just need to coti Mar 2020 #8
Yes, indeed. Scarsdale Mar 2020 #32
You need to find a different place to get your hair cut. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #11
They give a hell of a cut including shaving the neck and dealing with troubling hair GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #13
My barber is the son of my barber when I was a kid. TomSlick Mar 2020 #33
Neck, ears, & eyebrows should all be standard. maxsolomon Mar 2020 #36
Yep. If I just want a hair cut I could to a salon. Although they can't cut men's hair for shit. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #37
That's super disturbing. maxsolomon Mar 2020 #38
We have to ask them, "why did trump behave this way?" Ilsa Mar 2020 #12
My daughter's boyfriend is a republican...hates trump. BComplex Mar 2020 #14
Heya neighbor. Roland99 Mar 2020 #15
Yep. And most with no paid benefit time. It could be ugly. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #18
At the rates Disney charges ... aggiesal Mar 2020 #23
Your correct, and Disney employees will be better than most. Full time ones anyway. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #35
Get all the help we can empedocles Mar 2020 #16
that must be a breathe of fresh air for you bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #19
tRumpsters are the classic case of love is blind. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #20
.....and stoopid...... lastlib Mar 2020 #41
He's lost a lot of supporters out here. We may not go blue but we'll be purpler ... marble falls Mar 2020 #21
His base will turn out for him. His racism and hatred is just too alluring to the base. johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #22
I agree - his supporters can say what they want out of embarrassment but ArizonaLib Mar 2020 #50
I have a neighbor who voted for Trump said if he ever saw Trump, he would punch him in the nose Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #25
wow samnsara Mar 2020 #27
That's good news (although not for this poor couple, of course). Chemisse Mar 2020 #28
your neighbor sounds like a typical repuke Skittles Mar 2020 #39
Learning that the personal is political chia Mar 2020 #40
you made my day! samnsara Mar 2020 #26
The lack of proper response is Trump's fault, Trump could've handled it like Germany but decided to uponit7771 Mar 2020 #29
You hear the best conversations at Barbershops. gordianot Mar 2020 #34
Repugs on my husband's FB, the ones left that I didn't run off are SammyWinstonJack Mar 2020 #42
You reap what you sow. LaMouffette Mar 2020 #43
How could a professional barber support Тяцмр? n/t Whiskeytide Mar 2020 #44
I think I'm going to have to grow my hair long. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #47
Did you move into Orlando from the gulf coast? Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #48
No. I plan on retiring from the Orlando area to the Gulf Coast. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #52
That makes sense. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #58
I recently moved back to NWFL gulf coast after living in AL for 32 yrs. mentalsolstice Mar 2020 #59
We plan on retiring in a small historic town. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #60
If they have to start burying family and friends because Trump Jarqui Mar 2020 #54
I can hardly keep my tongue in when I see dipshits still wearing their MAGA hats lambchopp59 Mar 2020 #57
Same with my barber shop Historic NY Mar 2020 #61
Hopefully these baby steps will grow! Karadeniz Mar 2020 #62

Wounded Bear

(58,256 posts)
5. He was "elected" on razor thin margins in swing states...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:45 PM
Mar 2020

He probably can't afford to lose 1% of his support. I don't see how he increased his base of support.

Wounded Bear

(58,256 posts)
2. Anybody in tourism and hospitality will be in trouble this spring...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:44 PM
Mar 2020

and maybe on into the summer. People will hunker down.

japple

(9,755 posts)
24. This. What's going to happen during spring break? Will everyone stay
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

home? I certainly hope so. I also hope everyone has invested in Monopoly games, books, hobby and craft stuff, in addition to the CDC recommendations for at home care.

tavernier

(12,275 posts)
49. It's started and they're all here.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:00 PM
Mar 2020

This morning dozens of college aged kids, white as vanilla ice cream, jogging through the park where I walk, heading for the beach. By Friday they will be lobster red, peeling and hung over.

redstatebluegirl

(12,255 posts)
51. As they have been since the 1950's.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:19 PM
Mar 2020

Nothing has changed regarding college kids and spring break. I had to work during mine to be able to pay my bills, but I have a ton of friends with crazy stories about Ft. Lauderdale in the early 70's.

redstatebluegirl

(12,255 posts)
55. Yes there were a lot of those little souveniers from there.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:40 PM
Mar 2020

I have a girlfriend from college who has one of those, I don't think her daughter has a clue about how she came about. Her mom has become this ultra conservative church lady. She sure wasn't that in the day.

Rorey

(8,441 posts)
56. Expensive souvenir
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020

But I'm sure he is worth it.

A lot of years ago I was in a group of women and one was scared to death her troubled teen daughter was going to end up pregnant. She expressed that it would be the worst possible thing that could possibly happen. I suggested to her that it would hardly be the worst thing. She couldn't see my point.

Today I'm watching my unplanned 15 month old granddaughter. My son always said he wasn't going to have kids. He sure does adore her, and so do I.

elleng

(129,067 posts)
6. 'this is the first real crisis he did not create himself and you cannot bully or out tweet a virus.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:46 PM
Mar 2020

No one disagreed.'


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. This is a good capsule summary
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

Short, easy to remember, and simple enough to be understood by even the most loyal Trumpists. Once they internalize it, it gets even more damaging to Trump: Yeah, he creates the crises that he "solves." And no, you can't just wave away natural phenomena like viruses, hurricanes, and earthquakes by bellowing "fake news!"

Leghorn21

(13,496 posts)
7. Great news, 66 - sorry it took a raging plague to wake trumpers up, but...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:46 PM
Mar 2020

a little light is shining in the gloom...a teeny tiny bit —thanks for posting

coti

(4,612 posts)
8. 5 percent- you're right, we don't need to be winning hearts and minds, we just need to
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

damage their morale enough that they don't ALL have enough reason to get out and vote. Getting a small percentage of them to stay home would finish the Traitor.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Yes, indeed.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:18 PM
Mar 2020

The Lord does work in mysterious ways. Even HE is fed up with the orange ass, and wanting this nightmare to end.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. They give a hell of a cut including shaving the neck and dealing with troubling hair
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:02 PM
Mar 2020

On other places on my head. I’m getting older and the wife draws the line at cutting wild hairs on my ear!

These is normally not much political talk but this virus has all of Central Florida on edge. As long as a business is not being used to promote trump I don’t care about their politics. If the stick a trump sticker on the door or anywhere I am out.

TomSlick

(10,981 posts)
33. My barber is the son of my barber when I was a kid.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:25 PM
Mar 2020

I'll go to my barber. I can cope with the right-wing talking points.

I'd rather not look like Larry, Moe, or Curly.

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maxsolomon

(32,784 posts)
36. Neck, ears, & eyebrows should all be standard.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 07:06 PM
Mar 2020

Lots of men think it's vain to ask for those to be cleaned up, and that's just dumb. They're the most important part of the service.

Nose hairs, you'll have to do yourself.

Your barber believes CT horseshit.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. Yep. If I just want a hair cut I could to a salon. Although they can't cut men's hair for shit.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 07:15 PM
Mar 2020

He may believe CT stuff but gives a hell of a cut. And he is hardly alone. That talking point is being pushed by right wing media.

Now they are all calling it the Wuhan virus. Got to blame someone and China is his perfect foil.

maxsolomon

(32,784 posts)
38. That's super disturbing.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

It wasn't made in a Lab. It was "made" in a Wuhan Wet Market by idiots eating exotic meats (Pangolin, Civet) to "balance their Chi" (AKA get a boner), which allowed it to cross over into humans from bats. Like using Rhino Horn powder, which has nearly wiped Rhino off the face of the Earth.

It isn't necessary to make it a Red Chinese plot. The truth is infuriating enough.

Ilsa

(61,638 posts)
12. We have to ask them, "why did trump behave this way?"
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020

The answer is that this is how narcissists behave, and this is why they are too dangerous to hold the jobs in leadership.

BComplex

(7,939 posts)
14. My daughter's boyfriend is a republican...hates trump.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:14 PM
Mar 2020

My 80 year old aunt never voted for a democrat in her life, but voted for Hillary over trump...she hates trump, too. There will be a lot of others, and very few, if any, who voted Hillary or stayed home who will vote for trump next november.

The russians will be hacking machines across the country, like they did in 2016 in Florida and Texas, but there will have to be some serious hacking to get over his unpopularity.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
15. Heya neighbor.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:18 PM
Mar 2020

Nothing here in Orange County yet

But you’re right. If all the theme parks close, that’s hundreds of thousands of direct employees who will suffer economically and that will filter out to area businesses too

aggiesal

(8,826 posts)
23. At the rates Disney charges ...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:20 PM
Mar 2020

they make enough to pay their workers to stay home and not spread the virus.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
35. Your correct, and Disney employees will be better than most. Full time ones anyway.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:50 PM
Mar 2020

Starting next year no Disney employee will make less than $15.00 an hour and most make more than that now. And they have decent healthcare benefits that meet all the ACA requirements. They are unionized. Although they will still be hurting.

It’s the vastly larger group that work for smaller attractions and hotels who literally don’t have even one day of margin in their financial life.

This could get bad fast. I see nothing to prevent us from having to follow Italy’s lead to control this.

bucolic_frolic

(42,219 posts)
19. that must be a breathe of fresh air for you
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:45 PM
Mar 2020

almost sounds like undercover reporting ... do any of them have hair like Trump?

lastlib

(22,746 posts)
41. .....and stoopid......
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 07:06 AM
Mar 2020

These people gave up logic for Lent five years ago, and never took it up again. (Some go back even further.)

marble falls

(55,482 posts)
21. He's lost a lot of supporters out here. We may not go blue but we'll be purpler ...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 04:51 PM
Mar 2020

there are Republicans I know who would vote for Joe or Bernie but otherwise vote a straight GOP ticket.

We really got to get the Senate.

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
22. His base will turn out for him. His racism and hatred is just too alluring to the base.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

Hillary had it right when she described them as deplorable. They will cry fake news and democratic obstructionism.
We will see.

ArizonaLib

(1,233 posts)
50. I agree - his supporters can say what they want out of embarrassment but
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
Mar 2020

wait until they are standing over a ballot and need to choose between a "D" and an "R". They can hate Trump, want to punch his lights out, whatever - NONE of them regret not voting for Hillary.

Farmer-Rick

(9,953 posts)
25. I have a neighbor who voted for Trump said if he ever saw Trump, he would punch him in the nose
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:40 PM
Mar 2020

His wife has some very serous health issues. If she gets the coronavirus it maybe more than her weak body can take.

He's been staying home with her a lot lately. He comes over to talk now and then.

Chemisse

(30,780 posts)
28. That's good news (although not for this poor couple, of course).
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:56 PM
Mar 2020

This is the first big issue that everyone is paying close attention to and has the potential to hit us where it hurts. Nobody is tuning this out. This could really change the dynamics in November.

chia

(2,235 posts)
40. Learning that the personal is political
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 05:41 AM
Mar 2020

will be an eye-opening, mind-blowing experience for those accustomed to societal privilege. Maybe a few will have a come-to-sanity moment.

gordianot

(15,220 posts)
34. You hear the best conversations at Barbershops.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:47 PM
Mar 2020

My Barber really liked Bill Clinton (there was more money and people tipped better in those days). Although a life long Republican he is a closet Democrat and hates Trump. He asked me (as resident retired teacher) to define fiction. I knew what he was referencing the work of fiction that laid out a scenario of a manufactured virus in 2020. I stated I did not think it was a grand conspiracy just a coincidence. My next observation “Whatever it is the response is a mess”. I was shocked by the agreement and vitriol against Trump whose name I never evoked. Yes, something is brewing at the barbershop cut old men’s hair their mouths loosen up.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,128 posts)
42. Repugs on my husband's FB, the ones left that I didn't run off are
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 07:56 AM
Mar 2020

pissed at The Maggot about SS/Medicare. Saying they won't vote for him again if he tries his proposed cuts. We'll see.

LaMouffette

(1,986 posts)
43. You reap what you sow.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:29 AM
Mar 2020

Seems like poetic justice that Trump's viral presidency, which has infected our nation like an STD, will be taken down by an actual virus.

totodeinhere

(12,999 posts)
47. I think I'm going to have to grow my hair long.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:24 AM
Mar 2020

Until this virus scare goes way I think I will avoid places like barber shops.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
52. No. I plan on retiring from the Orlando area to the Gulf Coast.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

But I did grow up in S Louisiana and we had a fish camp near the gulf.

mentalsolstice

(4,450 posts)
59. I recently moved back to NWFL gulf coast after living in AL for 32 yrs.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:20 PM
Mar 2020

I’m a FL native, and it has always been my dream to come back home. We moved to Santa Rosa Beach from Birmingham. I can’t believe how crazy things are down here as far as politics goes. The trumpets here are totally whacked. It makes B’ham look like a liberal mecca in comparison (actually B’ham is in a moderate blue congressional district).

Oh well, we enjoy the sea breezes from our back deck, going a mile down to the beach for sunsets and bushwackers at our favorite bar. Hopefully, FL will see the light of day and swing back blue in November. Now if only karma has her way and takes care of “gas mask gaetz!”

Jarqui

(10,075 posts)
54. If they have to start burying family and friends because Trump
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:37 PM
Mar 2020

handled this so badly, that'll change a bunch of votes

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
57. I can hardly keep my tongue in when I see dipshits still wearing their MAGA hats
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

But I was at work the last one I saw which made me marvel... but I bit my tongue. Suffice that such ilk probably has long alienated much of their own family as well.
If local barber shops here where I'm contracted for work were good at their craft... I would patronize. But after about a half dozen cuts that were horrible (I have wavy thick hair that requires extensive work to look good)
I found the mexican beauty shop where the ladies take their time, color my whole hair, beard and everything... and most assuredly never a Trumper in sight.
Gosto de ouvi-los falar e decifrar o pouco de espanhol que eu também sei. Não sei por que acho o português mais fácil, mas ainda consigo pegar a maior parte do tempo.
Glad to hear some are seeing the light through the Fox Noise Fog Machine.

Historic NY

(37,410 posts)
61. Same with my barber shop
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020

all that anti-democrat crap posted. He knows I'm heading to Florida. mentions the virus, I said that the administration is way behind the 8-ball, he had weeks to put together a plan but none. He agreed saying we don't have a vaccine for this like the flu.

People will die because Trump wouldn't make contact with China and when it becomes clearer just how unprepared we are.

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