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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:24 PM Sep 2012

$71.12 That's how much I spent on food for my classroom today.

Peanut butter, bread, bananas, oranges, apples, nutri grain bars, granola bars, two boxes of cereal, oatmeal packets... I'm hoping it will last at least two months.

I wonder how many other teachers across America just spent a good chunk of their grocery money this month on other people's children.

But we all face the same dilema...how do you sit and eat your own lunch when you know some of your students don't have enough to eat?

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$71.12 That's how much I spent on food for my classroom today. (Original Post) DonRedwood Sep 2012 OP
Hats off to you and may you receive back 10-fold good for your CITIZENSHIP and humanity. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #1
+1000!!! FirstLight Sep 2012 #4
The parents have to apply for it. former-republican Sep 2012 #5
After you have villainized people for being poor and tsuki Sep 2012 #12
That's ridiculous former-republican Sep 2012 #18
Some GOP representatives rail against programs giving children getting free meals. freshwest Sep 2012 #82
If someone had said that to me former-republican Sep 2012 #91
That would be my state. xmas74 Sep 2012 #110
Don't forget Akin (Yes, THAT Akin) also opposes School lunch program lobodons Sep 2012 #115
But they love unborn fetuses! BobbyBoring Sep 2012 #124
They feel they have good reasons to resist feeding the poor: freshwest Sep 2012 #126
These people are hate personified. CrispyQ Sep 2012 #117
We talked to the county director after the school tsuki Sep 2012 #94
Depression is incredibly disabling. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #113
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #128
+1 shireen Sep 2012 #133
In my state xmas74 Sep 2012 #109
Amen that 1,000,000 times and over -- n/t mazzarro Sep 2012 #116
I truly applaud your efforts to help those students. Lilyeye Sep 2012 #2
good on you but former-republican Sep 2012 #3
They may be applying - but they may also find out that they make just a little too much to qualify dflprincess Sep 2012 #53
You are a wonderful, special teacher. yellerpup Sep 2012 #6
Not to mention the great karma you are engendering for yourself downstream - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #81
So true. n/t yellerpup Sep 2012 #98
your school doesn't offer meals for kids in need ? JI7 Sep 2012 #7
Thank you! LeftofObama Sep 2012 #8
Kudos to you! I taught for 25 years so I know what you're talking about. nt FLyellowdog Sep 2012 #9
Forgive me but I haven't had school age children in a long time former-republican Sep 2012 #14
I was one of those children once marions ghost Sep 2012 #21
Are you trying to make me cry former-republican Sep 2012 #25
Glad that you gave me a chance to speak even these hollow words marions ghost Sep 2012 #48
I wish I could rec just a post JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #52
Love ya marions ghost Sep 2012 #75
Ditto chloes1 Sep 2012 #122
That a young man said that JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #132
Hero! DonRedwood Sep 2012 #139
This site has former-republican Sep 2012 #56
Agree, & you are an amazing & kind one too marions ghost Sep 2012 #78
Since when were public relations jobs low paying? alp227 Sep 2012 #114
Have you ever had a job in this field? marions ghost Sep 2012 #118
I have friends in college majoring in PR. alp227 Sep 2012 #120
If they luck into the right area of marketing marions ghost Sep 2012 #127
thank you for sharing your story shireen Sep 2012 #134
hollow words on the internet can change the world my friend DonRedwood Sep 2012 #138
You made me cry marions ghost. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #137
It makes me feel good now just knowing there are teachers marions ghost Sep 2012 #140
I had lunch money sometimes, sometimes assisted, but for a period of time, I had no breakfast. Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #41
I posted without thinking former-republican Sep 2012 #63
Our school would provide a sandwich/milk for those who ran out of or didn't have lunch money FLyellowdog Sep 2012 #67
We always had breakfast at home, but often our lunch money was "late". juajen Sep 2012 #73
wow... you have much to learn, grasshopper 4_TN_TITANS Sep 2012 #57
A lot of teachers I know do similar things bhikkhu Sep 2012 #10
mine is a 96 with some metal showing through the tires.... sigh DonRedwood Sep 2012 #22
Check Craigslist - there are often guys who sell & mount used tires fairly cheaply Mopar151 Sep 2012 #66
"I have never met a selfish teacher." UrbScotty Sep 2012 #11
Thank you for caring do much JitterbugPerfume Sep 2012 #13
if you know a teacher, give them some money!! Skittles Sep 2012 #15
What can we do to help? Sienna86 Sep 2012 #16
One of the biggest things they need is volunteers Major Nikon Sep 2012 #19
Go eat lunch at a school and see what they are getting to eat DonRedwood Sep 2012 #23
My wife and I have always bought our kids' teachers supplies throughout the year Major Nikon Sep 2012 #17
You are a Hero!!! DonRedwood Sep 2012 #24
It bothers me that more parents don't step up Major Nikon Sep 2012 #99
September is the scarcest month of the year, LWolf Sep 2012 #20
No check here since June too. OUCH!! DonRedwood Sep 2012 #27
We all get the same amount of money. LWolf Sep 2012 #34
When my son was in kindergarten, the teacher asked the parents to bring in food items 1monster Sep 2012 #35
Years ago I did that when my child was in Kindergarten. I would bring LuckyLib Sep 2012 #54
Where do you guys work? WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2012 #50
The Internet has a huge amount of free materials that can be used in the classroom. 1monster Sep 2012 #31
Okay, thanks! LWolf Sep 2012 #32
Not sure if something like this might help, suffragette Sep 2012 #60
It's worth a look, thanks. nt LWolf Sep 2012 #96
If there is a heaven, the box seats are reserved for you. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #26
While I commend you for your generosity bluestateguy Sep 2012 #28
Fortunately, the majority of educators put children first. They want their children to learn Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #45
I had a girl come up to me at the beginning of the last period of the day on Thursday. 1monster Sep 2012 #29
+1 Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #69
My daughter is in 10th grade this year MrsMatt Sep 2012 #119
I am a non-parent but would like to help our teachers and classrooms in need...any suggestions? nadine_mn Sep 2012 #30
our local NBC television station had a drive to donate supplies grasswire Sep 2012 #37
that is so sweet! renate Sep 2012 #130
Thank you for southern_belle Sep 2012 #33
About three years ago I had a temp job at SheilaT Sep 2012 #36
Our small town school even provides breakfast and lunch during the SUMMER! sammytko Sep 2012 #51
You reminded me, our city also has a summer lunch SheilaT Sep 2012 #64
Ours does too Horse with no Name Sep 2012 #86
Thank you for reminding why a despise that repug fuckstick Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #38
I think it's important that it be known that teachers often spend their own money Kurovski Sep 2012 #39
And I say this in part to counter all the mindless contempt the RW builds against teachers. Kurovski Sep 2012 #44
All of them that I have known do so, work long hours after school, and are the glue that holds many freshwest Sep 2012 #83
you are a good man, thank you for being that. Whisp Sep 2012 #40
As a former educator I applauded you skeewee08 Sep 2012 #42
I've read articles about teachers who do the same. Thank you Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Kurovski Sep 2012 #46
You sir, are awesome. =D AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #47
My daughter is the "lunch lady" tavernier Sep 2012 #49
Proverbs 21:13 Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall KBlagburn Sep 2012 #55
And add a little dash of: DeSwiss Sep 2012 #58
What area of the country do you live in? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #59
justice da_decider Sep 2012 #61
I know I am being nit picky here GObamaGO Sep 2012 #62
I am a teacher, too, but I don't quite understand why you have to buy food for students. femmocrat Sep 2012 #65
My brother and I were one of those kids. Free school lunches weren't enough. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #70
Have you not heard... da_decider Sep 2012 #74
A heart warming story. I hope you grew up to have a job where you get more than min. wage? Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #80
I'm doing great now, thanks. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #89
well yeah because you have to buy food with them Wetzelbill Sep 2012 #92
Didn't say he was better off..... daleanime Sep 2012 #108
Exactly obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #76
I wondered about that as well - TBF Sep 2012 #131
But teachers make $100000 a year! Initech Sep 2012 #68
Careful with the granola bars. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #71
not nearly as high as the sodium content in mcctatas Sep 2012 #88
You'd think so, but oddly enough they are exactly the same--160 mg Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #93
Corn nuts are made in a facility that processes CreekDog Sep 2012 #142
Not if you look at it from an overall diet perspective Major Nikon Sep 2012 #101
The same thing goes for School Nurses...... AnneD Sep 2012 #72
Don't they qualify for the free lunch? Isn't there still a free lunch program? nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #77
Yes, there is obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #95
Emphatic K&R and thank you for caring - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #79
Our teachers asked for donations to supplement what they brought Horse with no Name Sep 2012 #84
I bought a small fridge for my classroom. noamnety Sep 2012 #85
A smart shopper. And so sweet. Kurovski Sep 2012 #87
Bless you hon. Every single year my kids have been in school, the supply list Butterbean Sep 2012 #90
This is so sad...... a kennedy Sep 2012 #97
Thank you. That's pretty wonderful of you and shameful of the district cali Sep 2012 #100
your area is unusual marions ghost Sep 2012 #141
Do You Ever Wonder.... goodword Sep 2012 #102
Thank you for your service. porphyrian Sep 2012 #103
Taking that blow off elementy ed degree in college redroof Sep 2012 #104
what a jerkish comment... WestWisconsinDem Sep 2012 #121
Thank you. qb Sep 2012 #105
Thank you Don!! JoyBugaloo Sep 2012 #106
Administering to the sick and the hungry. Sanddancer Sep 2012 #107
This makes me angry on several levels Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #111
Yep. My teacher husband routinely pays for his kid's lunches. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #112
I have the same dilemma when I sub. Jennicut Sep 2012 #123
"Let the little rug rats pull themselves up by their own sneaker laces." - Republicans (R) Berlum Sep 2012 #125
What in the hell are they doing wearing shoes? Kurovski Sep 2012 #129
re:$71.12 That's how much I spent on food for my classroom today. allan01 Sep 2012 #135
i started a new thread related to this one. shireen Sep 2012 #136
Lots of kids have nut allergies, so I would avoid the peanut butter and choose an alternative CreekDog Sep 2012 #143

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
4. +1000!!!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:30 PM
Sep 2012

I can;t believe you have to do this ...what about free lunch programs? are there kids that are not getting that help?

Honestly, I don;t know what I'd do without the lunch program, my kids literally eat me out of house & home during summer...thanks god they can also get lunch at the Boys & Girls Club in summer... How horrible that food insecurity is so rampant in our country

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
12. After you have villainized people for being poor and
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:55 PM
Sep 2012

lazy nothings for taking tax money, it is difficult to get them to apply.

We had a lunch room director who understood this and contacted as many families to ask them, as a favor to him, to apply for either free or reduced lunch. He explained that the feds paid almost $.60 more each lunch that was free, and he was trying to build a budget to prove they could afford to add breakfast. He got people to apply that had resisted, and he got the breakfast program.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
18. That's ridiculous
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:07 PM
Sep 2012

Of all the thousands of ways tax dollars are used.

No parent should be made to feel this way.

Your post really disturbed me but also opened my eyes up even more .

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
82. Some GOP representatives rail against programs giving children getting free meals.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:31 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:17 AM - Edit history (3)

Missouri Republican responds to child hunger: "Hunger Can Be a Positive Motivator"

Sat Jun 20, 2009 at 03:21 PM PDT
by Dem Beans

The Party of No Ideas has finally come up with one: eradicate child hunger by sending your children to work at McDonalds, because they give a free meal to their workers.

This is the response of a Missouri State Representative to a summer lunch program to help Missourians who are struggling with the economic downturn.

State Rep. Cynthia Davis (R-O’Fallon) chimes in on how wasteful it is to feed hungry children during the summer, when they don't have a school lunch program to offer one good meal per day.

In her recent newsletter Cynthia Davis has the following words of wisdom to parents of hungry children:

Why have meals at home with your loved ones if you can go to the government soup kitchen and get one for free? This could have the effect of breaking apart more families.

Anyone under 18 can be eligible? Can’t they get a job during the summer by the time they are 16? Hunger can be a positive motivator. What is wrong with the idea of getting a job so you can get better meals?

Tip: If you work for McDonald’s, they will feed you for free during your break.

Families may economize by choosing to not waste hard earned dollars on potato chips, ice cream, or Twinkies. Perhaps some families will buy more beans and chicken and less sweets.

They are using a "crisis" to create an expansion of a government program. Parents naturally love their children and enjoy caring for their children just as much as ever during an economic downturn...

Laid off parents could adapt by preparing more home cooked meals rather than going out to eat.


If you can stomach reading her full newsletter, there's lots of gruesome, heartless dreck contained within.

St. Louis Today features a story about State Rep. Davis, as well as the following sad statistics about child hunger in Missouri:

Ms. Davis chairs the House Special Standing Committee on Children and Families. In that position, she might be expected to have insight into child hunger in our state.

She might know, for instance, that about one in five Missouri children lives with hunger. That ties us with Louisiana for the nation’s seventh-highest rate, according to a report released last month by the hunger-relief charity Feeding America.

Or that the recession has pushed the number of poor Missouri kids who qualify for free or reduced-price school lunches by 8.3 percent this year, well above the national average.

Apparently not.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/06/20/744986/-Missouri-Republican-responds-to-child-hunger-Hunger-Can-Be-a-Positive-Motivator

The Daily Kos allows sharing these.
 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
91. If someone had said that to me
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:04 AM
Sep 2012

before reading the article you provided . I would have thought they were mistaken.
That can't be true I would have said.

This party and the people in it are so wrong for the future of our country.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
110. That would be my state.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

You'd be surprised at how far some districts have gone since those comments of a few years ago. In that area there might not be as much of a fight but in some of the inner city and rural areas some districts are doing their best to get every parent to fill out a form, even if they know they don't qualify.

In my district the form is included in the enrollment package and all are expected to fill it out.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
124. But they love unborn fetuses!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

How fucking crazy is that. You have all the rights in the world as a zygote. Soon as your born, you're on your own. Pull your self up by you baby shoe laces! Republicans need to be eliminated from government PERIOD!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
126. They feel they have good reasons to resist feeding the poor:
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012
Andre Bauer shows true GOP colors: 'Don't feed poor people, they breed like stray animals'

January 26, 2010 by Liz Barrett

South Carolina Lt. Governor Andre Bauer now says he regrets comparing poor people to stray animals.

South Carolina Lt. Governor Andre Bauer now says he regrets comparing poor people to stray animals.

Those good old boys in South Carolina sure know how to cut to the chase, especially when they're chasing poor people. Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer made national headlines after warning lawmakers and citizens at a town hall meeting a few days ago not to give food to poor people or they'll breed like stray animals.

“My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/andre-bauer-shows-true-gop-colors-don-t-feed-poor-people-they-breed-like-stray-animals

Some people may wonder why I flame the Baggers and the GOP. They have some wonderful ideas about the disabled, and are not afraid to show it. This is what staying at home in 2010 got us and this is what we're up against:



In addition to statements raised by Fallon about poor people going out to eat instead of cooking at home, this OP shows how prone to myths by paid shills Republicans are, I urge people to read the AlterNet article linked on an OP posted by a new member, Whovian.

Near the end, the author realized some poor people had never had the opportunity to eat a meal in a restaurant before:

The Political Awakening of (A) Republican:

'I Had Viewed Whole Swaths of the Country and the World as Second-Class People'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021311534

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/political-awakening-republican-i-had-viewed-whole-swaths-country-and-world-second?page=0%2C5&paging=off

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
94. We talked to the county director after the school
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:42 AM
Sep 2012

board meeting. That is when he told us this. He also said that he called the families at night to talk with the husband. That women are more likely to sign up, but men are resistant. It does hurt their pride at not being able to provide. That is why he used the I need your help ploy.

The older I get the more I think like Eisenhower. Minimum wage should be a living wage.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
113. Depression is incredibly disabling.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

Many poor people suffer from severe depression. That illness is more disabling than end-stage heart disease. It's difficult to do anything; filling out forms is almost impossible. And poor people are routinely condemned and disparaged every single day in this country.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
109. In my state
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:11 AM
Sep 2012

if parents qualify for WIC or SNAP (food stamps) their children are automatically enrolled in the free lunch program. And in my community a form for free/reduced lunches is given to parents to fill out as part of registering their child for classes. It is to be filled out, same as any other paperwork, before the child is registered for classes. It is considered mandatory paperwork, even if a parent knows they do not qualify. Letters are then sent home one week after school starts announcing if your child qualifies or not. (No money is taken the first week of school for any breakfast or lunch for any child. Also, the children do not know which of their classmates qualify for free lunch since lunches are paid on a monthly basis either via check/cash drop off in the main school office or by paying online. No money is accepted in the school lunch room.)

Lilyeye

(1,417 posts)
2. I truly applaud your efforts to help those students.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:29 PM
Sep 2012

Reminds me of my 4th grade teacher who used to get fruit for us every morning. Keep up the good work!

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
3. good on you but
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:29 PM
Sep 2012

doesn't your school have a free lunch or reduced lunch prices for some of the children?

Are you saying some of the children skip lunch due to the parents not applying for the lunch program?

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
53. They may be applying - but they may also find out that they make just a little too much to qualify
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

and it's the kids who suffer.

The income limits for the 48 contiguous states are the same whether the family lives in South Dakota or southern California (they are different for Alaska and Hawaii) which makes no sense at all.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
6. You are a wonderful, special teacher.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:35 PM
Sep 2012

As are all the other teachers I know. Your sacrifice will be remembered forever by the grateful children you feed and teach.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
14. Forgive me but I haven't had school age children in a long time
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:57 PM
Sep 2012

Are there children who's parent's that do not give them lunch money everyday to eat?

And shouldn't this be reported to the school board. What does the child do?
Does he or she just go sit at the lunch table and not eat while the rest of the children are eating?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
21. I was one of those children once
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:12 PM
Sep 2012

whose parents couldn't always come up with lunch money. We never got any assistance. We just pretended to take a long time in the rest room. There were other kids like us and sometimes they'd share whatever they had. I never remember any teacher giving us anything.

I'm sure it's worse now.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
25. Are you trying to make me cry
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:21 PM
Sep 2012

wow
I don't know what to say.
My wife just looked over at me tearing up.
She's reading your post now.

I can't even say I'm sorry because it's just hollow words on a website.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
48. Glad that you gave me a chance to speak even these hollow words
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:41 PM
Sep 2012

in this discussion. You give me a chance to reflect & speak on my own thin times as a child, so thank you and no need for apology. Your heart's obviously in the right place.

What's called "food insecurity" these days is often invisible to others. In our case there were 4 kids and we lived in a large urban area (inner city). We were skinny but we weren't starving--there would be something for dinner, though cheap and not a large amount. Like maybe soup or hotdogs and beans. But I remember Fridays were often pretty grim (food shopping was on Saturday since both parents worked at low paying PR/publicity jobs). Some days there would be lunch money, some days not. It was never predictable. So we pretended, out of embarrassment, that we were OK and just covered it up. I remember we'd eat sugar sandwiches and think that was a big treat (even my Dad would take 2 pieces of bread to work, nothing inside). But we weren't alone--I remember going to a friend's house whose family was in similar circumstances and she gave me a piece of bread with mayonnaise on it--that's all that was in the fridge. An empty fridge with a loaf of bread and a jar of mayo and she offered it with a smile that I've never forgotten. I also knew a family that was reasonably well off and when I'd go to their house sometimes after school we'd have cookies and chocolate milk. So you learn how to scrounge. I think I was more embarrassed about my clothes than the lack of lunch money.

Positive outcome--all of us kids got through college (working and borrowing) and all of us have enough to eat now. There can be residual damage, eg. I have a sister who is not poor, but still worried about not having enough money. These days so many people are in the situation of having to watch every penny tho, so you can't feel anything but blessed if food is not a problem. I think what it's done for me is that I'm acutely aware --that while abject poverty is not hard to recognize, there is a gray area where families don't ask for assistance, where they're under the illusion that they can still "make it." I'm here to say that often the kids just adapt to the situation as best they can. The lucky ones get out of it eventually. If I can enlighten anyone on this, I'm glad.

What's the statistic now?--one in five American kids is living in poverty in the richest nation on earth--yep, here it is:
------------------


(Reuters) - The number of children in the United States considered poor rose by 1 million in 2010, the U.S. Census said Thursday, with more than one in five of the youngest Americans now living in poverty.

"Children who live in poverty, especially young children, are more likely than their peers to have cognitive and behavioral difficulties, to complete fewer years of education, and, as they grow up, to experience more years of unemployment," the Census said.

In 2010, when the Census survey was conducted, 21.6 percent of children across the country were poor, compared to 20 percent in 2009.

That was mainly due to a rise in the number of children living below the federal poverty threshold, defined as an annual income of $22,314 for a family of four, to 15.7 million from 14.7 million in 2009.

The figures reflect the overall state of the economy. The national poverty rate stands at 15.3 percent and the unemployment rate is at 9 percent some two years after the recession that began in 2007 officially ended.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/us-usa-poverty-children-idUSTRE7AG2C920111117

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
52. I wish I could rec just a post
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:49 PM
Sep 2012

My husband and I devote the volunteer time and money to our local Food bank with the hope that just one more American doesn't have too little eat each day.

chloes1

(88 posts)
122. Ditto
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:56 PM
Sep 2012

I keep chickens and I donate eggs to my food bank, hoping that my neighbors kids' will get something to eat...

Poverty is just so rampant, there is one young man who told me he was poor because God doesn't love him. That broke my heart in way I can't even describe! Why, so often the government (local and Federal) chooses to balance the budget on the backs of the poor, whilst simultaneously vilifying them for their circumstances, I will never understand.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
132. That a young man said that
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

Breaks my heart.


I 'quietly' posted this in the NJ Forum last week. The food bank we give a lot of time to is quoted in this article:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1066108


In my community - our 'poor' are hidden so to speak. Because of the wealth of the community at large - and cost of living - 26K for a single mom is not enough to feed, house, clothe her child. It's because of the people in this article - the ones who cannot get TAMP/Food Stamps - that we give.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
56. This site has
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:06 PM
Sep 2012

some of the most amazing kind people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing.

Thank you for being a member and telling your story . And thank you to all the DU members who have helped me take my blinders off.

It's been a long road for me .



marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
78. Agree, & you are an amazing & kind one too
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

If it was a long road, then that makes it all the harder...

Welcome to DU, former-republican.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
118. Have you ever had a job in this field?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:47 PM
Sep 2012

No, public relations and even journalism jobs are often low-pay and especially were in those days (60's-70's). And of course my Mom was paid exactly half what a man would earn --of the two of them she had the higher position.

Yours is a common misconception. Communication & publicity--(ie. writing, speaking, editing skills)--have not been highly paid, and often aren't to this day. Now if you're in the advertising field or selling some hot commercial product you can do better. My folks were publicizing city government programs and local news-casting and such.
They worked hard and did their best. They never could afford vacations. They sacrificed all for their children. Their biggest mistake was in having more kids than they could really afford.

Check around if you don't believe me.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
120. I have friends in college majoring in PR.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:26 PM
Sep 2012

So I guess they are stuck with a thin safety net...no need for welfare but no luxuries either, and can't start families yet.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
127. If they luck into the right area of marketing
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012

they could do OK. But it's very competitive. In this economy they will likely be exploited if they aren't a star.
Journalists can eventually work up to 50K or more. The pay for PR jobs is heavily dependent on the situation.

They should marry somebody with a stable career path and have as few children as possible, IMO. Not much safety net can be expected.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
134. thank you for sharing your story
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

it is devastating to hear this personal account and know that it can be multiplied tens of thousands of times up to 2 million. I wish you could meet Gov. Romney and tell him your story. Just so he knows. Would he have empathy? I would like to think he would ... but i don't think he'll ever get it.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
137. You made me cry marions ghost.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:25 PM
Sep 2012

I'm doing my best to watch out for kids like you. There are a couple kids at my school who aren't in my class who I give food to. One is so thin I feel like crying every time I see him.

I see the same cycle every month...the food stamps run out and the lunches disappear or become so small they can't possibly be enough caloric content.

I'm sorry nobody helped you. I would have. :0(

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
140. It makes me feel good now just knowing there are teachers
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:31 PM
Sep 2012

like you keeping an eye out and helping where you can DonRedwood. Feels healing somehow, all these years later. So you have helped me. And I know that every one of those children that you treat so kindly WILL remember you --& at a deep, life-affirming level they benefit immensely from knowing that somebody cares. You have not only given them a bite to eat, you have given them hope. If they are lucky enough to get out of poverty and have a different perspective they'll look out for others too. Often the most generous people are those who have had the least.

Thanks for posting this--it really needs to be said. People who think that the poor have it easy in this country are very much mistaken. Nothing burns me more than to hear that line of Republican Rightwing BS. None of those fat cats can imagine what it's like for the 1 in 5 children living in hand-to-mouth poverty, and those who are teetering on the edge of it. It is a stressful, precarious existence. But they don't see it and they don't care.

Bless you, DonRedwood. U R an

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
41. I had lunch money sometimes, sometimes assisted, but for a period of time, I had no breakfast.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:15 PM
Sep 2012

Sometimes, we didn't qualify for the assisted lunch but my family would, mid-month, fall into a financial hole (medical emergency... car brakes going out... furnace blowing up) so there was no money for lunch.

What, exactly do you propose being reported to the school board?

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
67. Our school would provide a sandwich/milk for those who ran out of or didn't have lunch money
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:43 PM
Sep 2012

but too often kids came to school having had no breakfast. I'd find this out when one would start complaining of a stomach ache. The first question I'd ask was what did they have for breakfast. That's when I shared whatever I could. It was sometimes difficult because the children (primary) would be embarrassed about taking the "snack" from me. I'd tell them that I knew their mom probably was just in too much of a hurry and forgot about breakfast or some such justification..."snack" was going to spoil if somebody didn't eat it...etc, etc, etc...anything to help them save face.

Of course sometimes someone would say..."Well, you shouldn't do that...it's not your job. The parents are supposed to feed their own kids." Invariably they were the ones who were sitting front and center in church the previous Sunday.

People sell our teachers short. It's sad, but true. But I still believe that teachers shape the world and do an outstanding job of it.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
73. We always had breakfast at home, but often our lunch money was "late".
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:50 PM
Sep 2012

Lunches were paid by the month. That way, if anyone had trouble paying for their lunch, something was done to make sure they had lunch. I was one of 7 children and my father didn't provide very well. but most of the time, he came up with it. This wasn't the case with other children. I believe that the school just ate the money. It was a small town, and sometimes these bills were just paid. We had no assistance, but there were some well off people in our town who could certainly afford to pay for a child's lunch for a month. Breakfast came a long time after. Now, lunches have to be paid in advance, so that schools don't lose any money. But, assistance is available if you apply. We used to have very good lunches, cooked onsite. Now it is crap, or it is in most public schools. I remember a school in Dallas where the lunches were terrific. My kids knew what was on the menu every day and rarely missed school. Those were the days.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
10. A lot of teachers I know do similar things
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:48 PM
Sep 2012

though the school lunch program in my state is very good, so food isn't so much the problem.

Many teachers supply their own classrooms with the various things the kids are expected to bring - calculators, protractors, notebooks, tissue, binders, etc, at their own expense. There are plenty of kids here who lack parents with the means (or the will) to buy them supplies.

I worked on a car belonging to a teacher the other day from one of the poorer districts, his only transportation. It was 25 years old and rattling along on borrowed time (barely), ready for the junkyard - we put two used tires on it and fixed an alignment issue...its a crime that teachers and school systems have to count their pennies and students have to go without, while we hear how the rich need another tax cut!

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
66. Check Craigslist - there are often guys who sell & mount used tires fairly cheaply
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
Sep 2012

Or look at an auto salvage yard. If somebody's parent works in one of these places, or a tire shop (who can get you the used tires they won't resell[protecting their new tire prices] ) they'll be happy to hook you up.

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
11. "I have never met a selfish teacher."
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:49 PM
Sep 2012

I heard someone make that comment on Jeopardy recently.

How true it is.

Don, you deserve the best for being so selfless to your students.

Would that you not have to do this all the time...

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
23. Go eat lunch at a school and see what they are getting to eat
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:19 PM
Sep 2012

some schools are awesome but food is an easy place to cut corners. Maybe your community is one of the schools that is serving really good food.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. My wife and I have always bought our kids' teachers supplies throughout the year
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:06 PM
Sep 2012

Both of us volunteer quite a bit at the school and I always tell them if they need anything to send me an email. Budget cuts are hitting the school particularly hard this year. I just got through spending about $50 on 5 new glass palates for my daughter's art class.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
99. It bothers me that more parents don't step up
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:31 AM
Sep 2012

We have a few parents which are really good, but just not enough. The area that my school district covers is pretty affluent, so it's not as if people can't afford it. However, I am not going to sit back and allow teachers to shell out their own money for things that are necessary.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
20. September is the scarcest month of the year,
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:10 PM
Sep 2012

waiting for the first check since June AND buying things the classroom needs.

My classroom is not as well stocked as yours, and I won't be buying food supplies until the first check of the year at the end of the month.

I DO have a large supply of granola bars, cheese and crackers, and peanut butter and crackers. They are supplied by our FAN advocate. She also has a room full of binders, pencils, etc. for students who need start-up supplies, and will be working to provide shoes, winter coats, eye glasses, and other essentials to those who need them.

Some parents will donate supplies; that usually covers about half of the paper, pens, pencils, tape, etc. that we need for the year, and I cover the other half with my class supply budget and my own donations. The class budget gets smaller every year, and my outlay for basics gets larger.

I will also be supplying all art supplies, since they are not "essential."

I also am adding to and updating, and replacing lost and too-well-worn books in the classroom library, and I have a large library; about 1,000 titles, most paperbacks. Every one of them is either a donation, purchased with my cash, or with book order bonus points. If I want them to read widely, I provide.

I'm also regularly purchasing actual curriculum materials. The last time we had a Language Arts adoption for my grade levels, about 5-6 years ago, they took everything else we had away to force us to use the new materials. Those materials consisted of an online component, a TM, and consumable work books with short stories and poems. After the first year, the district dropped the online component; they didn't want to pay for it. After the 2nd year, they dropped the consumables, leaving us with a teacher's manual but nothing for students. We are left swinging in the wind, scrambling to produce everything for all the reading, english, and writing standards ourselves. I have collected an eclectic bundle of stuff, some searched out in various storage areas, some purchased, to try to make coherent sense of.

At this point, I don't have anything left. I've counted how many meals and how many miles I need to get through until payday, and I won't be leaving home except to go to work; I can stop for food on the way home without adding extra miles.

My students WILL have food and basic necessities, at least while they are here at school, though.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
27. No check here since June too. OUCH!!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sep 2012

I put the food on my credit card :0( with the rationale that I will skip lunch.

I shamed my supervisor into letting me get new crayons in my room this year. My district gives each room a small budget buy I have a BIG class (almost double ALL the other special ed rooms) and I get the same amount of money as rooms with less than half the number of students I have.

I have to buy all the kleenex, sanitizer, diapers, cleaning supplies out of that small amount. Last year the district even took the money to clean the rugs in my room out of my classroom budget.

I am making almost 100% of my own curriculum as well. No library in my school.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
34. We all get the same amount of money.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:48 PM
Sep 2012

I've got 90, which is more than most. I don't know what I'd do without our FAN advocate.

Do you have something like this where you are?

http://www.familyaccessnetwork.org/about

1monster

(11,012 posts)
35. When my son was in kindergarten, the teacher asked the parents to bring in food items
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:49 PM
Sep 2012

suitable for afternoon snacks for the kids. Parents would stagger the weeks they brought in the snacks, but often there wasn't much. Since I could at the time, I brought in enough stuff to last ao week about two or three times a month. I continued taking snacks for his class through third grade, after which it was discouraged.

It doesn't hurt to ask parents to contribute to your food bank. Those that can will often be willing, especially if they know their child's classmates are going hungry. Not all will care, and not all will be able. But perhap enough will contribute to save you the pain of having to rely on credit cards with their high interest rates to see that your students don't go hungry.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
54. Years ago I did that when my child was in Kindergarten. I would bring
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:02 PM
Sep 2012

bags of crackers, etc for snack time on a regular basis. What shocked me was the racist attitudes of teacher aides who would try to keep children already on free lunch from getting access to snacks brought for kids who did not require assistance. I repeatedly had to say, "Any child who wants something can have it." Don't think for a minute that those racist, nasty behaviors went over the heads of the children. They get it -- they feel the shame of their family economic circumstances is ways we will never know.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
50. Where do you guys work?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sep 2012

Both you and LWolf sound as though you work for pretty poor districts...do you have a Title 1 classification? I'm in Clark County, Nevada and I thought we had it bad, but at least they spread our paychecks over the year, so I don't have to limit myself to Ramen noodles all summer, although I am driving a 22 year old car. A lot of our kids qualify for free/reduced cost breakfast and lunch. We used to get a $200 credit card for classroom supplies, but that went away about 4 years ago, along with our raises with-in our "step raise". I teach PE, so I'm used to the big classes, but this year I took on a Health class also, and I'm averaging about 42 students/class there. The fact that you buy food for your kids is awesome on your part. Like the poster from the 80's said, it'll be a great day again in America when our schools have all the money they need, and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.

The tragic part here is that it, of course, is not the kids OR their parents faults. I wish there was a way to get the Romney's of the world to see just how their philosophies and policies are affecting the kids, but then again, they wouldn't give a rat's ass. If a child is hungry, they can't learn. I keep thinking back to an old Mel Brooks movie called "Life Stinks" where he plays a wealthy man who is forced to live on the streets for a month with none of the resources & advantages he's used to having. I don't think Romney would last 2 days.

Oh, well. Back to lesson plans. Hang in there.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
31. The Internet has a huge amount of free materials that can be used in the classroom.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:40 PM
Sep 2012

It's a tremendous amount of work to find it,download it and fit it into lesson plans that fit together, but it is there. I have tons of stuff I've collected over the years. PM me with your grade levels and subjects and I'll see what I can find for you.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
60. Not sure if something like this might help,
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:18 PM
Sep 2012

but figured I'd post it just in case it might.

http://quizlet.com/

You can use sets already made by other people or create your own.
Also, not fully accessible since it's flash, but there is audio available so can help with learning disabilities, 2nd language, etc.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
28. While I commend you for your generosity
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:29 PM
Sep 2012

Were I a K-12 teacher in this climate, I would not do as you have done.

With public school educators being beaten down by politicians and RW activists and never-ending demands that they work harder and longer for less, if it were me I would say that I cannot afford to do this or spend my own money on classroom supplies. That is what I would do if I was a teacher in Scott Walker's Wisconsin, or as many have indeed done, just retire.

Republican parents are welcome to raise the money themselves for classroom supplies and snacks; since they love to drone on about the virtues of private charity.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
45. Fortunately, the majority of educators put children first. They want their children to learn
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:20 PM
Sep 2012

and it is much easier to teach a fed child than one distracted by hunger.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
29. I had a girl come up to me at the beginning of the last period of the day on Thursday.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:29 PM
Sep 2012

She asked me if I had a dollar I could give her so she could buy a candy bar. She hadn't eaten all day was close to fainting. And this was high school.

I've often taken extra food to school with me and given it to kids who did not have money or food for lunch. Heck, for a year and a half, I packed two lunches for my son every day. One was for him and the other was for a friend whose father and stepmother only allowed him one meal a day, dinner. That kid was finally able to move out of state to live with his mother where things were much better.

I'm a sub, so I get around and on occasion have the dreaded lunch duty. There's a lot of hunger in schools. I've noticed it especially in high schools.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
119. My daughter is in 10th grade this year
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

and I've been packing a double lunch for her for about a year. She has plenty of money in her lunch account, but prefers the home packed meal.

I know she uses her lunch to feed other kids - she says it's because they either don't want to stand in line (which I understand is long), they don't like the lunch, or they are too lazy to bring their own.

I don't care; I'm of the mind that any 15 or 16 year old needs to eat, and if I supplying nutrition to a well-to-do lazy ass or someone whose family is truly in need it makes no difference to me. Kids need to eat.

I'm going to the school to see if I can put money into someone's account for lunch - I figure that the school knows who is going hungry.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
30. I am a non-parent but would like to help our teachers and classrooms in need...any suggestions?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:32 PM
Sep 2012

I usually go crazy for back-to-school supplies (yep I am 40 and haven't been in school since the 90's when I was in law school, but something about notebooks and glue sticks get me excited) and then I donate them to local community emergency assistance programs.

I am unemployed and don't have much spare income, but I would love to help out our kids and classrooms in need.

Afterall - they are our future and we all benefit from having great kids who are fed, sheltered and educated!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
37. our local NBC television station had a drive to donate supplies
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:06 PM
Sep 2012

They raised $100,000 + in cash, and also many donations of supplies. They were able to provide backpacks full of stuff for thousands of students.

Maybe your local TV station is doing something like that.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
36. About three years ago I had a temp job at
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
Sep 2012

one of the middle schools in my city. So many of the children in the school qualified for free lunch and breakfast, that both meals were free to all.

I have long thought that maybe some kind of basic lunch should be included simply as part of the school day.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
51. Our small town school even provides breakfast and lunch during the SUMMER!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sep 2012

Free for ages 2-18.

This is in texas.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
64. You reminded me, our city also has a summer lunch
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:28 PM
Sep 2012

program, also free. Can't remember if they also do breakfast, but I kind of think they do.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
86. Ours does too
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:52 PM
Sep 2012

It is also in Texas.
Ours also has peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and milk for the kids who don't have lunch money.
They also automatically put kids on Free Lunches if the family gets food stamps so they don't have to apply for it...something I think is great.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
38. Thank you for reminding why a despise that repug fuckstick
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:07 PM
Sep 2012

out in Wasilla who shot down funding for the school lunch voucher program.

I need to find out who is running against that POS and send them a check.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
39. I think it's important that it be known that teachers often spend their own money
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:09 PM
Sep 2012

on other people's children.

I daresay all teachers have. Certainly of all the ones I know/have known.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
44. And I say this in part to counter all the mindless contempt the RW builds against teachers.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:19 PM
Sep 2012

good going, DonRedwood.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
83. All of them that I have known do so, work long hours after school, and are the glue that holds many
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:37 PM
Sep 2012

Children and their families lives together, making connections that save them from failure and dire consequences. I'm not surprised that Don is doing this, I could tell some really heartwarming stories of the teachers that I've come to know in the last twenty years or so. I was never interested in the profession of teaching for myself. It is for people who never really stop working with children and their families. I cannot say enough for the teachers that I have come to know. They are really special individuals and I hate how they are being disrespected. It is not only the teachers, but the very diverse communities they serve that are being torn apart for no good reason by greed and ideology. It is one of the most tragic things happening in this country now.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
43. I've read articles about teachers who do the same. Thank you
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:17 PM
Sep 2012

for helping your hungry students.

can you make that $71 stretch farther by buying in bulk? I've seen big jars of pretzels and snacks at Costco

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #43)

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
49. My daughter is the "lunch lady"
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:44 PM
Sep 2012

at our neighborhood grade school. Because it is a small community and her own son attends the same school, she knows all the children and their "situations", and she has never, or will never, let a child miss lunch.

KBlagburn

(567 posts)
55. Proverbs 21:13 Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:03 PM
Sep 2012

not be heard.

God Bless You.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
58. And add a little dash of:
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:08 PM
Sep 2012
Mat 25:35-40 (KJV)

For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.


K&R

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
59. What area of the country do you live in?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:15 PM
Sep 2012

I honestly don't know of any school district that doesn't have reduced or free lunch for students, and often also breakfast. It would be a terrific idea to get someone in Administration to contact the parents so they know about this. I know our school district automatically gives the poorer kids lunch cards.

And, to be honest, you probably shouldn't get the PB. SOOOO many kids have peanut allergies now.

da_decider

(104 posts)
61. justice
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:21 PM
Sep 2012

some kids should starve so we can give billionaires tax-cuts so they can buy elections by brainwashing the right wing tools into voting republican. Good ole' capitalism

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
62. I know I am being nit picky here
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:27 PM
Sep 2012

The bread, oranges, apples, and bananas are very perishable and will only stay fresh up to a week at most. Do you have a freezer in your classroom?

That said, it is really very infuriating how much teachers end up personally bankrolling in their classrooms in order to perform their job.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
65. I am a teacher, too, but I don't quite understand why you have to buy food for students.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:34 PM
Sep 2012

Are you supplying snacks or meals? Is this a public school?

All schools have free and reduced-lunch programs. I assume most have breakfast programs now, as well. Why aren't the parents taking advantage of these programs? They are completely confidential. Not even the lunch ladies know who is on free-or-reduced lunch. Only the administration knows in our district.

Children on free-or-reduced lunch receive the exact same lunch as those who buy. With the new nutrition guidelines, the menu has improved quite a bit.

Our athletes also receive a bagged meal after school!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
70. My brother and I were one of those kids. Free school lunches weren't enough.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:47 PM
Sep 2012

The free school lunch we got was our best, if not only, meal of the day. And lunch time takes forever to come around when you're a hungry kid and all you can think about is your grumbling stomach. A nutri-grain bar or an apple can go a long way to making a hungry kid teachable.

My mom was trying to raise two kids on minimum wage after my dad disappeared. Unless you had figured out how to scam the system, the miserly allotment of food stamps usually ran out about the middle of the month. Then it was plain baked potatoes or--by the last few days of the month--nothing. My mom looked like a skeleton, and had no money to get her rotting teeth fixed. Finally, they agreed to just pull all her teeth and give her dentures--at the age of 33. Amazing that they won't pay for preventive dentistry or fillings but they do cover dentures. This was the early 70s. I understand the safety net is even stingier now.

I will never forget this special teacher I had. She knew I was in trouble. She'd invite me and a few of the other kids over to her house for bbq's and stuff. She showed me a whole new world. By the end of the year I was on the honor roll and stayed on it -- through college and graduate school. She was my angel, much like DonRedwood is to his students. I don't know what kids like us would have done without teachers like that.

da_decider

(104 posts)
74. Have you not heard...
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:14 PM
Sep 2012

"We’ve always encouraged young people ... get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents...!"
-Romney

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
80. A heart warming story. I hope you grew up to have a job where you get more than min. wage?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:30 PM
Sep 2012

I've been poor before (not as a child). I found that I actually was able to eat better on food stamps than when I was employed full time making min. wage. Ironic.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
89. I'm doing great now, thanks.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:54 PM
Sep 2012

I have a public interest job and am able to give back.

My brother, on the other hand, is not. He did not have that teacher I had. He just seemed to fall further and further behind. I think he had a learning disability, but in the 70s, they just called that kind of kid "slow." No teacher ever took him under their wing like I was lucky enough to have happen to me. He never graduated high school and does odd jobs, struggling to get by. I help him out when he can't make rent. Fortunately, come 2014, he will have health insurance for the first time in his adult life, thanks to our President.

Wetzelbill

(27,910 posts)
92. well yeah because you have to buy food with them
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:05 AM
Sep 2012

You can eat ok, but that doesn't mean you are better off at all, as you have nothing else to pay your bills with etc. & you can be on minimum wage and still be eligible for food stamps too, you may not get as much but you get something. So there is no way you should have been eating worse while working full time than not. Unless you have issues budgeting your money or were trying to live above your means.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
131. I wondered about that as well -
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

they serve breakfast at my kids' elementary school and my daughter rides her bike to make sure she can get there early & buy it. It's about $1.75 if you don't qualify for the free/reduced. At home I give her cold cereal and apparently she prefers breakfast tacos, pancakes, etc ... ha! Nowadays they have on-line accounts for payment so I make sure she has enough for about $5 per day for food (which gives her breakfast, lunch & an ice cream or extra package of cereal to eat as a snack during the day). I'm sure it would be cheaper for her to eat at home or take lunch but she seems to prefer the variety. Occasionally I have lunch with her or my son and they really do have fairly decent food. It's not gourmet cooking but it's healthy and tasty for the most part.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
93. You'd think so, but oddly enough they are exactly the same--160 mg
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
Sep 2012
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5181292_corn-nuts-nutritional-information.html



CornNuts contain 160 milligrams of sodium, almost 7 percent of the recommended daily allowance (2400 milligrams). Avoid foods high in sodium if you have health concerns such as high blood pressure.



http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-nature-valley-crunchy-granola-bars-i57486



Calories in Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars
Oats N Honey
Manufactured by Nature Valley

Sodium
160mg
7%



I suppose it depends on the brand too, but they are a bit higher then you'd expect for "health food".

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
101. Not if you look at it from an overall diet perspective
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:43 AM
Sep 2012

If you were on a 2,000 calorie per day diet and ate nothing but granola bars (180 calories each), your daily sodium intake would be 1778mg. The recommended daily intake of sodium is 2,300mg or less, so you'd be well below that.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
72. The same thing goes for School Nurses......
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:49 PM
Sep 2012

I use to spend at least $40 every two weeks for food for kids that didn't have breakfast. The school now gives free breakfast for every kid that wants it. And we have a lot of takers. I still sweet talk the cafeteria ladies out of milk, juice, and crackers to give to the kids that fall through the crakes.

And then there are the kids in need of glasses, shoes, clothes, coats, dental work, immunizations....the list is never ending, growing every week. I have really sweet Docs that will do favors for me now and then. I can't say enough about those guys. I have some sweet Dentist too.

The point is that there is no more safety net and the kids are falling through the holes. The homeless went through first. Now the kids and soon the jobless. It just seems to be imploding.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
95. Yes, there is
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:12 AM
Sep 2012

It's Federal, and some states have additional State funds.

And, in my area, kids who qualify are automatically put on it (families on SNAP, etc.). In addition, kids coming to school without lunch get a cheese sandwich, carrot sticks, and milk.

There's free breakfast for ALL kids.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
84. Our teachers asked for donations to supplement what they brought
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:39 PM
Sep 2012

They now have a mid-morning snack for the kids...we sent some extras for the kids who don't have them.

Bless you for what you do.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
85. I bought a small fridge for my classroom.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:41 PM
Sep 2012

I keep peanut butter and jelly, and bread in the room for anyone who wants it. I just bought 5 loaves of bread today for school, they've been going through about 1 loaf a day. I also have packs of frozen salami and some sliced cheese (processed american cheese, ick, but I got it free in a coupon deal). I normally manage lunch for all the incoming new students for orientation, and the leftovers go in my room, otherwise lunchmeat's a rarity. I deliberately overbought granola bars for orientation because I got a deal on them - about 70 cents a box when I bought 10 at a time, but the trick was I couldn't buy more than 10 at once or the deal wouldn't work. So I got 120 boxes, but spread it out over a week, darting into each krogers I passed on the way home each day, 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there. It was cheap but the time added up. I was able to donate about 60 boxes of those to the school counselor for kids I don't personally have in my classes.

The day before labor day was exciting for me because Aldi's was closed on labor day and was trying to ditch their produce. I picked up tons of bananas at 10 cents a pound, it became peanut butter and banana sandwich day.

One thing that helps me keep the cost down is I keep a clean container for knives, and one for dirty knives, and run them through my dishwasher so I don't have to keep buying new ones and we have a little chat about recycling and landfills when I bring that up.

We are a title one school but don't have a kitchen area that can meet health code so we can't serve lunches, only milk to the free and reduced lunch kids. So this is my personal free lunch program.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
87. A smart shopper. And so sweet.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:52 PM
Sep 2012

Now i feel like a monster for fighting with you the other day.

good on you.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
90. Bless you hon. Every single year my kids have been in school, the supply list
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:01 AM
Sep 2012

includes snacks, paper plates, paper cups, etc.. We're fortunate to live in a district and my kids attend a school where the parents are very involved and we all band together and collect money to buy collective supplies for the kids. We try to take the burden off the teacher, but as you so eloquently illustrated, not every teacher or every school has that luxury.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
100. Thank you. That's pretty wonderful of you and shameful of the district
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:34 AM
Sep 2012

you teach in.

I feel lucky to live in a town where local food is a huge deal and that ethos has spread to the elementary and high school. The food served now is so much better than that served just a few years ago. there are more organic farms per capita in Hardwick Vermont than anyplace else on earth and the farm to school program is active and healthy. In addition, we have a community garden that the kids work in.

goodword

(44 posts)
102. Do You Ever Wonder....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:45 AM
Sep 2012

if you're being taken advantage of?

You obviously have a huge heart and giving spirit. I'm not there to know the circumstances; I just hope your giving is not being seen as an easy out. And I'm not saying that to be mean-spirited toward children in need. I just know that there are people who will LET you feed their children so they don't have to.

Have you ever considered contacting local churches to see if they can assist these families? It's not necessarily right that you should have to take on this responsibility no matter how noble your reasons. If this becomes common practice among teachers it's may drive people into other professions.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
103. Thank you for your service.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:47 AM
Sep 2012

No offense to the military, but I get pissed off when people spend so much time celebrating people in the military while ignoring all of the other civil servants who make sacrifices every day, yet go unappreciated. Thank your fellow teachers for me, too.

 

redroof

(24 posts)
104. Taking that blow off elementy ed degree in college
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:55 AM
Sep 2012

doesn't seem like such a good idea any more, does it?

Nah, I'm just kidding - you guys and the comm majors threw the best parties!

 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
121. what a jerkish comment...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:48 PM
Sep 2012

Teachers work their asses off to become teachers, and then work even harder once they start.

And this from a chemistry Ph.D., before you decide I also took a "blow-off" major

 

Sanddancer

(52 posts)
107. Administering to the sick and the hungry.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:36 AM
Sep 2012

My wife is a school nurse. She always makes sure that she has food/snacks on hand for the all too many kids that leave the house unfed. A few are just hungry well cared for kids but all too many are hungry because of uncaring parents (3rd grader getting herself up and out to the school bus) or because the parent(s) are just broke. She's also seeing a trend where her role is as primary care physician, where parent will send a sick kid to school to see what the nurse thinks.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
111. This makes me angry on several levels
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:36 AM
Sep 2012

Firstly, you should not have to be doing this.

Secondly, a teacher on a damn teacher's income should not be having to do this.

Thirdly, by you doing this you are masking the problem and possibly delaying it getting fixed.

Fourthly, it probably won't get fixed so what else can you do?

All of this pisses me off.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
123. I have the same dilemma when I sub.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:59 PM
Sep 2012

One classroom had 8 children with no snack packed. Some barely had a lunch. It is pretty heartbreaking. I wanted to get my lunch out and offer them food but it was against school policy.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
136. i started a new thread related to this one.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012

This thread was getting long, and I wanted my post to be more visible.

The question is, what can we at DU do to help our DU teachers?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021314347

Please post ideas. If you think there's enough interest, we could ask Skinner about starting a new forum for DU teachers and the people who want to help them.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
143. Lots of kids have nut allergies, so I would avoid the peanut butter and choose an alternative
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:18 PM
Sep 2012

like Corn Nuts.

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