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Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:11 PM

Who else feels like this nightmare was inevitable?

That one day "President" Trump would break America and destroy our quality of life like every business he's ever started.

From the moment Trump got elected I feared he would inadvertently start World War 3 because of his ego, inexperience and stupidity. I had no idea we'd end up going to war with a viral pandemic. But I feel like it was inevitable that Trump would encounter a global crisis that he would make a hundred times worse because of his incompetence.

Many Americans survived the last 3 years of the Trump presidency thinking "what's the worst that can happen?" or "nothing he does is effecting me personally."
I mean seriously, a month ago many Americans were ready to give this unstable sociopath another 4 years because the economy was doing well and a fear of America becoming a socialist country.

I'd never tell Trump voters, 3rd party voters or people who didn't vote in 2016 "I told you so." But we Democrats did try to warn people just how dangerous Trump would be. Where we are now brings back all the PTSD of that awful 2016 election night. Another devastating reminder that if Hillary was President we wouldn't be in this mess.




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Reply Who else feels like this nightmare was inevitable? (Original post)
liberalmediaaddict Mar 2020 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
doc03 Mar 2020 #2
rzemanfl Mar 2020 #3
lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #4
FirstLight Mar 2020 #5
Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #6
liberalmediaaddict Mar 2020 #15
brush Mar 2020 #7
democratisphere Mar 2020 #8
brewens Mar 2020 #9
not fooled Mar 2020 #25
magicarpet Mar 2020 #10
Initech Mar 2020 #11
tinrobot Mar 2020 #12
sop Mar 2020 #13
GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #14
liberalmediaaddict Mar 2020 #18
GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #19
BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #32
not fooled Mar 2020 #27
meadowlander Mar 2020 #16
a kennedy Mar 2020 #17
Calculating Mar 2020 #20
liberalmediaaddict Mar 2020 #22
MFM008 Mar 2020 #33
nancy1942 Mar 2020 #21
Captain Zero Mar 2020 #23
BadGimp Mar 2020 #24
Nitram Mar 2020 #26
CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #28
Strelnikov_ Mar 2020 #29
liberalmediaaddict Mar 2020 #30
Hortensis Mar 2020 #31
woodsprite Mar 2020 #34
parhelion Mar 2020 #35
customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #36

Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:13 PM

1. I am not surprised that something terrible happened because of Trump.

I just didn't know what it would be. The election of Trump was a black swan event and there was bound to be another one. And it doesn't bother me a bit to tell the racists, morons and damned fools who voted for him only because they didn't like Hillary, "I told you so. And fuck you."

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:17 PM

2. An economic collapse was due we just didn't know what would trigger it. The market

has been running on artificially low interest rates and tax cuts for 3 years.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:17 PM

3. Agreed.


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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:18 PM

4. we have been flirting with this since day 1

war with North Korea
trade war with China
war with Iran
trade war with Europe
government shutdown
disastrous tax cut

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:19 PM

5. regardless of Trumps stupidity (which DOES make it worse)

It's like something like this has been in our collective consciousness for a few decades...

Im shocked, but not surprised

it still sucks

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:20 PM

6. You're nicer than me. I'll absolutely tell

them “ I told you so.” They were so sure it would turn out ok when every single sign indicated it was inevitable something really bad would happen. They screwed all of us and need to be held accountable.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:03 PM

15. I think reality is finally setting in

For conservatives who held their noses and voted for Trump, libertarian/green party voters and the millions of people who stayed home in 2016. They might not admit it but their definitely going through the 5 stages of grief right now. Suddenly realizing Trump wasn't the lesser of 2 evils and Obama was a great President.

A lot of liberal hating Trumpsters I've met now swing back and forth from being depressed to angry. They're no longer in denial about how serious Coronavirus is. But they haven't fully accepted that Trump has handled this outbreak like a moron from the moment he heard about it.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:20 PM

7. tump is, or I should "was", the luckiest, dumb SOB ever.

And we are the unluckiest country as it ran out at our expense.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:24 PM

9. It would have been a huge problem for any president for sure. Hillary would have had to have handled

it way better. For one thing the pandemic response team would have still been in place. She would have known she had to listen to them. Even if she was really reluctant to sound the alarm and spook the markets, she would have.

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Response to brewens (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:36 PM

25. Yes, some disruption inevitable

but as you say, with Hillary as president, the warnings would have been heeded early on. Testing would have been ramped up right away. The impact would definitely have been lessened, even though in a large country like the U.S. the level of testing done in some of the Asian countries would not have been feasible. The markets wouldn't have reacted as badly knowing that the situation was being handled properly. With red don, the markets know incompetence reigns and that bad outcomes are more likely.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:32 PM

10. We live in very odd times.........

We live in very odd times.........

(I silently wished for a general strike and the country would come to a grinding halt to bring about accelerated and much needed societal change - like a more sustainable life style).

Fasten your seat-belts and a fix your crash helmet - for slightly differing reasons that grinding halt might becoming to pass very soon.

Interesting times indeed.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:35 PM

11. Trump runs America the way Fat Homer ran the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.

Vent gas explosion? YES. Disembark Pandemic Response Team? YES.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:36 PM

12. He breaks everything he touches

I feel violated.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:39 PM

13. At some point in the not-too-distant future climate change will create a similar global crisis.

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Today's climate deniers will finally be forced to admit their error and start finding ways to belatedly reverse the looming disaster, much like former covid-19 deniers have in recent days. I imagine people will ask a similar question then, and the answer will be the same: "It was avoidable."

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:49 PM

14. Little different take here. A pandemic was inevitable. It's been 100 years.

And even with a Democratic President we would still be in the deep shit.

That said, with a Democratic President we would be in such better shape. Yeah, we would have had testing earlier and started taking measures that would have kept the curve down. But we were never going to keep this out.

What would not have is a Nation where 40% of the population did not believe it is all over hyped and a hoax. That’s out there now and they will believe it even when they take their last choking breath waiting for a ventilator. Because their president spent a month telling them so.

And we would not have entered this with a trillion dollar deficit. It would have been at a reasonable level allowing us to throw resources at it without heading to a 2 trillion dollar deficit we are about to have.

Those 2 things are the most damaging.

And the irony now is so rich it makes me want to cry. The republicans are rushing to do the exact thing president Obama did which kicked off the tea party racist shit. Use the federal government to stave off a depression. Won’t hear them saying that shit now.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:17 PM

18. Well said

Trump and Fox News reaction to this outbreak from December to last week made this crisis so much worse. There's still a lot of Republicans who refuse to practice social distancing and think.the liberal media is exaggerating how big a deal this is.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:26 PM

19. Right. If it would only affect them I would be ok with it.

But they are going to spread it to everyone.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:50 PM

32. If it would only affect them....

that would be what Karma.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:39 PM

27. Yeah, pukes will throw money at the situation

in part in a desperate attempt to salvage red don's electoral chances.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:09 PM

16. Yes.

This is far more comprehensible to me than Trump being re-elected and serving a full second term.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:12 PM

17. AND I SWEAR TO GAWD........

If the orange piece of shit even gets close to becoming a repeat POTUS........... I will kill someone....or myself. Ok, I won’t kill anything or anyone, but damn it, he gets in again. I swear to gawd........

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:40 PM

20. This isn't really Trump's fault

He sure could have handled it better, but this virus was coming here no matter who was president or what they did. It's all over the entire world now, and it spreads super easily. There was NEVER any real chance of stopping it from coming to our shores.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

22. It's definitely not something he caused

My original point was every President encounters situations and crisis that they didn't cause but have to deal with effectively. Like natural disasters. My opinion is Trump made this crisis a hundred times worse by shutting down the Pandemic Response Team in 2018. And by downplaying the seriousness of it for 2 months. And by lying repeatedly about the facts and turning to people like Mike Pence and Jared Kushner to solve this problem.




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Response to Calculating (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:51 PM

33. His

"Not handling it better" wasted 2 months while he desperately hid the seriousness of the situation for his own political benefit.
For NUMBERS.
people dying.
More will die.
He didnt crap the virus out.
But THIS IS HIS FAULT.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:00 PM

21. Nothing he does surprises me.

I knew in my bones that he was a disaster and the puzzle was why on earth anyone could be stupid enough to ever vote for him. I knew there would be a catastrophe; I just didn't know what form it would take. This is a Trump extravaganza!! What will he do for an encore???

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:30 PM

23. Ever since he won I have said his presidency won't end well however and whenever it ends

And I meant it wouldn't end well for any of us.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:35 PM

24. ME ME ME ME ME!!

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:37 PM

26. Yup, me too. It was a recipe for disaster, a train wreck waiting to happen.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:39 PM

28. Evil racist bankrupt con man

Evil racist bankrupt con man.

What the hell else can a sane person expect unless they are so damn greedy that the evil outweighs it. How sad.



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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:45 PM

29. Yea, I had a feeling he was going to break something


But, offered Pandemic and Global Thermonuclear War, I take door 1.

But, there is the bonus round . . who knows what lies behind? Earthquake? Typhoon? Tsunami? President Ivanka?

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:49 PM

31. Well, putting today's Republicans in power was never inevitable.

We could have stopped that but didn't. We have to be better citizens and vote smart and responsibly. As a duty, because it matters.

As for the epidemic, chances one would cut loose in our country were seriously increased by Republican negligence and the wired-in unfitness of hard-core conservatives for office, but I don't think it was inevitable that it would happen during their period of control. So, actually, no.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:57 PM

34. It really pisses me off to think

That Putin is sitting somewhere laughing his ass off with how wildly successful he's been in bringing America down to third world status.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Thu Mar 19, 2020, 12:08 AM

35. Absolutely.

I’m surprised it took this long. I would have never imagined that I’d be quoting David Brooks, but “This is what happens when you elect a sociopath as president”. This is all on the Republicans. They knew what a chaotic, unqualified and irresponsible narcissist he was when they nominated him. Their win at any cost strategy will be catastrophic to this country and the world for generations, and that was before the current disaster.

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Response to liberalmediaaddict (Original post)

Thu Mar 19, 2020, 12:20 AM

36. While Trump has certainly

greased the skids, this crisis probably would have happened anyway. There will not be a place on the globe exempt from C-19, and they don't all have Trump as the head of their government.

There are things Trump and his cronies have done deliberately to screw over the American people, but bringing this virus to our shores was not one of them. Yes, more people will certainly die because of his actions (and inactions) but like climate change, this thing was coming for us one way or another.

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