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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet's say the markets recover this week....
....getting back all that was lost last week or say the Dow at 28,000, how can we consciously go ahead with the bailout?
If they do......Shit I just cant stomach this crap any longer
spooky3
(34,444 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)bear market rally. Face ripping fierce rallies are a hallmark of bear markets. Those are usually followed by drip drip incessant corrections.
Bull markets act opposite, there are severe correction days followed by incessant slow but steady upward movement.
wishstar
(5,269 posts)especially since there will be some lag time for the assistance checks and financial help to businesses.
msongs
(67,401 posts)grubbers, not the real world. totally artificial. and nobody loses a penny unless they sell
Shermann
(7,413 posts)...until they open their test results.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Then it may be good to transfer funds, etc.
gibraltar72
(7,503 posts)kurtcagle
(1,602 posts)This was the largest "rally" since 1933 in percentage terms. The market promptly collapsed shortly thereafter in 1933, becoming the worst year of the depression. Right now, everyone is looking for a "bottom". They won't find them so long as we see 10% swings in the market. I anticipate that this week we'll probably end up coming back down to within a few hundred points either way of where we started.
Nothing's really happened today - a lot of promises were made by an administration that is notoriously bad about keeping promises, and the Senate waved around a lot of money that likely very few people will ever actually see except those that just made some really bad bets in the stock markets and want to be made whole again for free. Wait for a major politician or business leader to die from Covid19, and the DJIA will go right back down.
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)That is 2 years of tax receipts and we were already 1 trillion over budget for the year. Bull or Bear market this aint real money anymore. Are we not paying interest on debt to the federal reserve? What is the collateral on that debt.
Right now our debt is 123% of GDP, and congress is talking about throwing 30% more debt.
So Cheney was right, deficits dont really matter.
at140
(6,110 posts)The republicans do not give a rat's behind about the long term effects of debt.
All they care is getting re-elected and hang on to power.
I am not sure that $4 Trillion Kudlow talks about is US Treasury taking on that debt.
It is strictly between the Federal Reserve bank and corporations+banks.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)Regular people need help and so do businesses to keep people employed.
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)I agree, Main Street and we the people have not recovered . We have no savings so the Dow doesnt help us at all. Credit default have been rising for 2 years, auto loan defaults are at 4%. Unless the S&P500 is cutting you a check, then the economy aint so rosey
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)There is nothing good about what is happening- health or economy. I don't want to see the government bail out anyone but I think it needs done given where we are.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)The markets will continue to decline for months to come. We probably won't hit bottom until the Fall at the earliest.
GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)It takes a lot longer to climb up than it does to fall down.