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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:07 AM Mar 2020

Remember Rumsfeld's orders on 9/11/2001? That's happening here!

Hours after the planes hit the Twin Towers, Defense Sec Donald Rumsfeld was dictating orders to his staff.

"Hard to get good case. Need to move swiftly," the notes say. "Near term target needs - go massive - sweep it all up, things related and not."

We are seeing a version of that now.

In chaos, Republicans seize opportunity. (That's actually a tenet of Yale's Skull & Bones Secret Society. Seizing opportunity in chaos.)

Look at Barr.

Look at Trump.

Sweeping it all up.

Congressional Republicans, too. Sweeping it all up.

Hold on to your wallet.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. They've created a holocaust, intentionally, this time, not just
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:58 AM
Mar 2020

reacted outrageously incompetently to terrorist threats and attack.

What I've been watching for is happening: Media are talking about the Republican leadership's refusal to act with full knowledge of what that would lead to. Brian Williams' asked tonight about their "delay and denial which is really beyond debate." (Concerted public denial that it was serious, when they knew what their refusal to contain would lead to.) The guest answered that there would be examination of why more was not done.

It may not explode into the enormous scandal it is now in the middle of grave national emergency. But I can say what they can't: I believe the Republican leadership intentionally decided to let pandemic loose. My guess is the intent of these anti-tax/anti-government ideologue flunkies was to kill off many disabled, chronically ill, and retired recipients of the benefit programs they paid into over their working years.

Regardless of specific motive, I see no other possible explanation for the active obstruction and deceit of Republicans in congress and state offices, many of whom are very knowledgeable about pandemic preparations and knew just how to leap to action because they helped write the legislation for it.

May seem less evil than filling train cars to death camps, maybe, but it's genocide.

blaze

(6,362 posts)
9. Here's an interview with Klein from 3/13/20
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:52 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5dmqyk/naomi-klein-interview-on-coronavirus-and-disaster-capitalism-shock-doctrine

"How have we seen this play out before?

In The Shock Doctrine I talk about how this happened after Hurricane Katrina. Washington think tanks like the Heritage Foundation met and came up with a wish list of “pro-free market” solutions to Katrina. We can be sure that exactly the same kinds of meetings will happen now— in fact, the person who chaired the Katrina group was Mike Pence. In 2008, you saw this play out in the original [bank] bail out, where countries wrote these blank checks to banks, which eventually added up to many trillions of dollars. But the real cost of that came in the form of economic austerity [later cuts to social services]. So it’s not just about what’s going on right now, but how they’re going to pay for it down the road when the bill for all of this comes due."

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
6. Suspend habeus corpus because, you know...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:56 AM
Mar 2020

Come to think of it, that may be the first time in my long life I ever heard of a sitting Attorney General of the United States musing about suspending habeus corpus...

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
8. I was fascinated when learning about Skull and Bones...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:40 PM
Mar 2020

....(the secret society at Yale integral in the lives of the Bushes)...

that Bonesmen are instructed in how to profit from chaos. It's a tenet of those elites.

GOP has taken that to the extreme and willing to create the chaos in which to maneuver.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. Hey, I'm here in New Haven. I'm interested in how you found out about those tenets, altho they
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:57 PM
Mar 2020

don't surprise me one bit.

Did you go to Yale? Which college?

We are devotees of the Ivy League football season as we live near the fabulous Yale Bowl and belong to a wonderful tailgate group. No Yalie in the family, tho.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
11. No, but my favorite ancestor graduated Yale in 1746.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:17 PM
Mar 2020


I learned about it during the Bush years. Evil Skull & Bones. Evil. I could feel it when I walked past the building on campus.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. If it's the building I'm thinking about, it's very, very strange. Nothing on the door, no plaque.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

A remnant of another time. A little scary but not surprising, the way that class of people thought. The democratization of the Ivy League has helped a lot. Women have totally changed it and more racial diversity has too. They are still elite and they all know it.

The unique culture of each dorm or "college" of Yale is an interesting facet of the place. And the fact that a major city street of New Haven takes you right past some of the august colleges...

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