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CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 01:44 PM Apr 2020

Millionaire who tried to charge Philly almost $1m to use empty hospital has property vandalized

People in Philadelphia angered by a man who wanted to charge the city nearly $1 million a month to use an empty hospital he owns for housing and treating coronavirus patients have vandalised his house.

Joel Freedman, a California businessman who owns the currently closed Hahnemann Hospital in Philadelphia, told city officials they could rent the building from him for $1 million a month to house coronavirus patients.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that “Joel Kills” and “Free Hahnemann” were spray painted onto a building owned by Mr Freedman in Philadelphia.

A paper taped to the door stated “Joel Freedman has blood on his hands” and “Open Hahnemann Hospital.”

A spokesperson for Mr Freedman said the vandalism was “sad and uncalled for.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-philadelphia-hospital-millionaire-price-gouging-a9443171.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2o8PhEuVwOXAnRIYobHxFyYLecahPEtWNQcBBvjH_JOGgbELlY_n39PlI#Echobox=1585847211

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Millionaire who tried to charge Philly almost $1m to use empty hospital has property vandalized (Original Post) CatWoman Apr 2020 OP
That's the least they should do to him. elleng Apr 2020 #1
Yep, he's lucky. He'll feel different if he contracts the virus. n/t zackymilly Apr 2020 #23
Correction Freedman is sad and uncalled for. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #2
I hope Philly Zoning and Building Inspectors don't let any payoffs occur to get permits or COs. TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #46
Next time they'll burn it down. Zoonart Apr 2020 #3
Great minds think alike jberryhill Apr 2020 #6
Excellent idea! PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #11
I meant his house jberryhill Apr 2020 #18
Oh, I didn't catch that. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #33
Yes it would be a completely criminal thing to do jberryhill Apr 2020 #41
Look at the awful vandalism jberryhill Apr 2020 #52
He'd probably love that....collect on the insurance, demolish and build apartments. OnDoutside Apr 2020 #7
Nah, keep the amount of damage to just under the deductable. 3Hotdogs Apr 2020 #13
Then he would just be able SoCalNative Apr 2020 #8
Seems like in times like these, this type of behavior is almost "normal". They are out of touch. secondwind Apr 2020 #4
Good jberryhill Apr 2020 #5
No, Please RobinA Apr 2020 #9
Doesn't he live out in Montgomery County somewhere? jberryhill Apr 2020 #17
Designate it a historical building. nt NCjack Apr 2020 #10
Nope. Absolutely called for!! Coventina Apr 2020 #12
WOMP WOMP, Joel...womp womp. And your greed, sir, is 'sad and uncalled for.' CurtEastPoint Apr 2020 #14
The vandalism of the building is a measured and appropriate response gratuitous Apr 2020 #15
Greed filled man getting what he deserves for trying to profit from death ooky Apr 2020 #16
Guillotines on the National Mall superpatriotman Apr 2020 #19
And whom shall we guillotine sarisataka Apr 2020 #21
Who's asking? jberryhill Apr 2020 #42
Robespierre sarisataka Apr 2020 #47
Oh, a wise guy, eh? You want answers? Get in line. jberryhill Apr 2020 #49
Peut tre je suis M. Barre sarisataka Apr 2020 #55
Obviously King Donald the 45th and all his minions jmowreader Apr 2020 #58
THIS! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #28
Absolutely! FiveGoodMen Apr 2020 #34
In the Old West Johnny2X2X Apr 2020 #20
I am a bit appalled by the reaction to this. crickets Apr 2020 #22
Freedman should have known better than to do this. This is reprehensible behavior on his... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #27
I don't disagree with you. crickets Apr 2020 #29
Absolutely. I think they'll work it out. Desperate times call for desperate measures, eh? SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #31
Thanks, and back at ya! crickets Apr 2020 #32
Thanks! I enjoyed, by the way, your blurbs on the fairness doctrine, by the way. It does seem to.. SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #44
Put him on the rack until he screams "Uncle" and open the damned doors. jberryhill Apr 2020 #51
fuck him CatWoman Apr 2020 #48
Well put jberryhill Apr 2020 #50
This is what we are talking about jberryhill Apr 2020 #53
A bas les aristocrats! Nt raccoon Apr 2020 #24
If need be, I'm sure Gov Wolf and DeminPennswoods Apr 2020 #25
pay him the value declred on property tax rolls DBoon Apr 2020 #26
Burn it down JCMach1 Apr 2020 #30
Can't the city just claim eminent domain? Just take the landlord out of the picture. madinmaryland Apr 2020 #35
Big city slumlords are of an ilk bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #36
It's a start. Grokenstein Apr 2020 #37
Not that I want to defend him, but LA is paying someone 10x what Freedman asked for. elias7 Apr 2020 #38
LA is not Philadelphia CatWoman Apr 2020 #39
It's Philly... dhill926 Apr 2020 #40
where's Nicky Scarfo when you need him? CatWoman Apr 2020 #43
The Pitchforks Are Coming citizen blues Apr 2020 #45
Perhaps he can set up a Gofundme campaign. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #54
he's lucky they didn't burn it down. TeamPooka Apr 2020 #56
Wait, Corgigal Apr 2020 #57
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
41. Yes it would be a completely criminal thing to do
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:18 PM
Apr 2020

I also hear that it's against the law to rip tags from mattresses, and suggest we deal with the backlog of those cases first.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. The vandalism of the building is a measured and appropriate response
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 02:23 PM
Apr 2020

Joel Freedman is the person who started the vandalism, and his is in a far more deadly vein than some spray paint and a paper sign.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
16. Greed filled man getting what he deserves for trying to profit from death
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 02:31 PM
Apr 2020

of Americans instead of offering help. Hope they visit his home too.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
58. Obviously King Donald the 45th and all his minions
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 07:15 PM
Apr 2020

It is also obvious why they don't let us have the keys to the guillotine.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
20. In the Old West
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 02:52 PM
Apr 2020

They'd have beat him and sent him walking out of town. Disgusting greed, these people are evil and worship money.

crickets

(25,976 posts)
22. I am a bit appalled by the reaction to this.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

Look, I don't like this guy either but lawless behavior like this is bad regardless. Asian Americans facing public discrimination, a train derailment aimed at the Mercy ship, Fauci surrounded by a security detail, wacko Evangelicals refusing to let go of the collection plate with no regard for the deaths that follow from holding services... enough. Everybody is way too keyed up. The real reason why things are this bad has one name: trump.

If we had a real sense of leadership in the country right now, if our president was actually trying to handle the situation capably, we as a people would be much better able to deal with the stress everyone is going through right now. We shouldn't be dealing with the shortages that trigger an NFL team owner to fly in N95 masks from China, we shouldn't be dealing with a death rate that has bodies piled in refrigerated trucks, we shouldn't be dealing with doctors and nurses dressed in garbage bags instead of proper PPEs. But we are.

Freedman could have helped Philadelphia out by donating use of the hospital for free but he didn't. After cooling off about it, it occurs that maybe it would have been ruinous for him to try. We may not know all of the facts here. Regardless, it's possible to judge the hell out of the man (and I still do) without vandalizing his property.

Eyes on the prize: the real demon in all of this is trump.

SWBTATTReg

(22,121 posts)
27. Freedman should have known better than to do this. This is reprehensible behavior on his...
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 03:08 PM
Apr 2020

part. If I were the city, perhaps I would look at condemning and seizing the property, after all, it's a national emergency, perhaps they have some powers that will allow this to occur, and then compensate him at market rates later. Like all other condemnation procedures that I'm aware of.

crickets

(25,976 posts)
29. I don't disagree with you.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 03:17 PM
Apr 2020

I'd love it if the city found a way to legally take that hospital and put it to good use.

SWBTATTReg

(22,121 posts)
31. Absolutely. I think they'll work it out. Desperate times call for desperate measures, eh?
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 03:25 PM
Apr 2020

Take care and be safe.

SWBTATTReg

(22,121 posts)
44. Thanks! I enjoyed, by the way, your blurbs on the fairness doctrine, by the way. It does seem to..
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:20 PM
Apr 2020

have pretty serious implications for some of the garbage on the CV that we're hearing about, perhaps that's why faux news kicked off their one person recently (some lady, don't recall her name), calling the CV a hoax. I wish that they apply the fairness doctrine to rump! Twitter and all of them who allow the distorted CV news to be propagated online via twitter and faux news.

A good read.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
25. If need be, I'm sure Gov Wolf and
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 03:02 PM
Apr 2020

Mayor Kenney will take the building by eminent domain if it's really needed. The PA state courts have already upheld the actions Wolf has taken under the emergency declaration law passed by the state legislature.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
36. Big city slumlords are of an ilk
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 03:48 PM
Apr 2020

somewhere or other I read an article on one in Allentown PA. The usual, never repair anything, everything's an opportunity for a deal, high rents as I recall. Speculators are in it for the money.

elias7

(3,999 posts)
38. Not that I want to defend him, but LA is paying someone 10x what Freedman asked for.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:10 PM
Apr 2020

“Elsewhere, city governments have struck deals with the owners of empty hospital buildings to lease their space. At St. Vincent Medical Center in Los Angeles, the city is paying $236 per night per bed, for a total of $2.6 million each month.

In Philadelphia, Freedman offered the Hahnemann building to the city for $27 per bed per night, plus taxes, maintenance and insurance, which the city would pay directly. All told, that added up to just over $900,000 per month.”

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
39. LA is not Philadelphia
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:13 PM
Apr 2020

basic rent in California is beyond outrageous, and California's infection rate is much, much higher.

citizen blues

(570 posts)
45. The Pitchforks Are Coming
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:26 PM
Apr 2020

Just as plutocrat, Nick Hanauer, predicted in this TEDx talk. This is exactly what I've been concerned about starting to happen. We're playing Russian roulette with the Covid-19 virus out here. We never really know who's going to get the next bullet or if they're going to survive it when they do go down. With as botched as the response has been, people are scared, and that makes this situation increasingly volatile. With numbers predicted to soar, people could very well begin having the mentality: we're dying out here anyway, we have nothing left to lose. That could end up making the act of vandalism reported here look like high schoolers TP-ing a house.

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