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What the fuck is Romney doing?? (Original Post) Control-Z Sep 2012 OP
Pandering. He has no idea what just happened and no idea what IS happening. nolabear Sep 2012 #1
The guy is a total jackass Hutzpa Sep 2012 #10
Yes - he won and served for 8 years. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #2
Gotta say it: This guy makes Palin look smart ProSense Sep 2012 #5
Shit... fugop Sep 2012 #8
Um, Bush did not 'win'. He was 'installed' in a bloodless coup d'etat. - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #12
thank you 2pooped2pop Sep 2012 #35
a win is a win... lame54 Sep 2012 #37
Had the all the ballots in Florida been counted, Bush would not coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #40
1/3rd Tricky Dick, 1/3rd Quayle, 1/3rd Dubya. So, kinda. nt onehandle Sep 2012 #3
and mix with a strong dose of Anal Retention, Greed, and Self-Absorbtion Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #9
He's putting the final nail in his pathetic campaign . . . fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #4
That is sure what it sounds like. Control-Z Sep 2012 #19
I agree..as I think it over. Stuart G Sep 2012 #46
never. Makes McCain look like a saint, doesn't it. this man is not just an opponent, he is Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #6
And at least McCain had the qualifications to run for president. Control-Z Sep 2012 #24
Kamikaze! BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #7
Lol. Control-Z Sep 2012 #27
I woke up outraged today C_U_L8R Sep 2012 #11
He could have salvaged his spew BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #13
I agree ritacrafty56 Sep 2012 #42
No, never JeffersonLoveChild Sep 2012 #14
Never? How about the campaign before this one? randome Sep 2012 #16
Palin was a dangerous ignoramus, but... JeffersonLoveChild Sep 2012 #17
Agreed...Mccain and Palin were bad because they had competing core values alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #28
Your post brought to mind this famous scene BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #41
I can almost imagine Mittens reciting this during the debate next month... JeffersonLoveChild Sep 2012 #45
Perfect JeffersonLoveChild Sep 2012 #44
Sheldon must have called Mitt and said Whisp Sep 2012 #15
What you said! Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #18
no we haven't. i pray that america rejects this man to the degree he moves out of the country spanone Sep 2012 #20
He sure gave them something big to reject this morning. Control-Z Sep 2012 #29
Lying his fireproof Mormon underpants off. n/t LeftinOH Sep 2012 #21
After this morning Control-Z Sep 2012 #31
Romney doesn't want to be bothered with the duties of the office of the President hamsterjill Sep 2012 #22
33% of the American people LondonReign2 Sep 2012 #33
That's right. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #43
But but Mitt Romney is a brilliant business executive! jsr Sep 2012 #23
Boy and I thought that McCain seemed incompetent Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #25
Working with his friend Netanyahu to influence the election... polichick Sep 2012 #26
That was my first thought with the news that he was out playing prezidential this morning. Skidmore Sep 2012 #36
Substitute "McCain" for Romney and "the Economy" for "Foreign Policy"... brooklynite Sep 2012 #30
It's just a trial run bcool Sep 2012 #32
Right. Because they want to waste hundreds of millions of dollars in order to...? randome Sep 2012 #34
Sucking. Big time. Blue Owl Sep 2012 #38
who wrote his statement? a 6 year old grandchild? librechik Sep 2012 #39

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
1. Pandering. He has no idea what just happened and no idea what IS happening.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:33 AM
Sep 2012

And he's an opportunistic asshole with no ability to comprehend that this is not the time and he is not the man.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
10. The guy is a total jackass
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

a complete fucking asshole... yeah I said it. Has no inclination of what foreign diplomacy is all about, in his fucking world,
diplomacy is about insulting everyone.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
8. Shit...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:36 AM
Sep 2012

At least (unfortunately) Bush knew how to campaign. Lucky for us that Mitt can't even do THAT!

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
46. I agree..as I think it over.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:13 PM
Sep 2012

and over, and over..

Incredible dumb fucking move on his part. Just couldn't shut up long enough to think it through..Today he ended any real chance he had in my opinion. Imagine anyone criticising Bush right after 9/11, on the same day..

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. never. Makes McCain look like a saint, doesn't it. this man is not just an opponent, he is
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

a dangerous person. Just like Palin, he doesn't know he doesn't know.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
24. And at least McCain had the qualifications to run for president.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:54 PM - Edit history (1)

Mitt is a know-it-all HS bully without a scrap of qualifying experience. He needs to shut his mouth before he does damage.

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
11. I woke up outraged today
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

but now I'm laughing my ass off.
Romney is a complete idiot !!!
He would have been better off saying nothing.

ritacrafty56

(2 posts)
42. I agree
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

Romney has no idea what he is talking about. He doesn't know how hurt this country will be if he is elected. He is a true idiot. I know it will hurt me if he is elected for I am on disability.

14. No, never
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:43 AM
Sep 2012

I've been following politics very closely for fifteen years now, and never have I seen a more inept politician, or campaign, for that matter.
Notwithstanding the fact that no one quite knows what/where he stands for until today (including himself, I suspect), you get a feeling that he actually formulates his policies and responses based on Twitter trends.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Never? How about the campaign before this one?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

Palin? Romney? See the pattern? The elephant is dying.

17. Palin was a dangerous ignoramus, but...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:53 AM
Sep 2012

Palin was a dangerous ignoramus, but McCain actually ran a pretty well-oiled campaign. You don't get that with Romney, whose campaign is just sort of imitating the neo-confederate agenda.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
28. Agreed...Mccain and Palin were bad because they had competing core values
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:14 PM
Sep 2012

Romney is bad because he has only one core value, and that is the constant accumulation of capital by the rich; everything else he says is simply a strategy to meet that value. He essentially has no core, as he's demonstrating today. That Romney would flub foreign policy is no surprise - the uber-capitalists understand quite well that even the very notion of "nation" is simply a residual feudal construction that is sometimes useful, but ultimately unnecessary. This is what distinguishes Romney from the Bush crew, who were at their core old school Imperialists. Romney is one step in capitalist development past even that: he literally doesn't give a shit about the nation state as a construction; it's irrelevant to him.

So, yes, we really never have had a candidacy like this before, because we've never had a candidate who is so purely a radical capitalist - without morals, without center, without values - just purely and one-dimensionally about capital accumulation and purely in the service of the capitalist class. In the past, the very act of having to mask such a position was generative. If one hid it behind foreign policy exceptionalism, one tended to actually think and function like an old Imperialist. If one masked it (as Palin did) behind a kind of weird nativism, one tended to think and act in a nativist way. For Romney, any masking of his inner core is so thin that it never actually forms into an ideology; it's why he's all over the place, and why he seems so insincere all the time.

45. I can almost imagine Mittens reciting this during the debate next month...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:08 PM
Sep 2012

I can almost imagine Mittens reciting Beatty's line during the debate next month...

" You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!
"
44. Perfect
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

I think this summation perfectly encapsulates Mitt's professional characteristics.
"...we've never had a candidate who is so purely a radical capitalist - without morals, without center, without values - just purely and one-dimensionally about capital accumulation and purely in the service of the capitalist class."

I would add another point to this - Mittens display numerous psychopathic tendencies. While politics traditionally has a higher ratio of psychopaths compared to other fields (with the exception of law enforcement and the armed forces), Mitt displays very real and aggravated level of psychopathic tendencies.



"Psychopathy is a specific form of personality disorder with a distinctive pattern of interpersonal (e.g., glib, grandiose, callous, deceitful, manipulative), affective (e.g., lack of empathy, shallow affect, short-tempered) and behavioral (e.g., parasitic, irresponsible, impulsive) characteristics (Hart & Dempster, 1997; Hart & Hare, 1997; Hart, Hare, & Harpur, 1992)…

… Given that one of the defining features of psychopathy is deceitfulness, it is clear why this trait would be of interest in a study looking at credibility. Indeed, the PCL-R (Hare, 1991, 2003) contains two items that consider deception: “pathological lying” and “conning/manipulative.” Several theoretical frameworks have been proposed to explain psychopathic deception. For example, Lykken (1995) suggested that affective factors that might inhibit deception in most people, such as anxiety and guilt, may be largely missing in a psychopathic individual. Lykken further suggested that because psychopaths experience less anxiety than nonpsychopaths, they are able to deceive more skilfully than others. Taking this a step further, some researchers have suggested that psychopaths may experience “duping delight” from successfully deceiving others (Ekman, 2002; Porter, 35 Birt, & Boer, 2001; Raskin & Hare, 1978)…

… Hare, Forth, and Hart (1989) suggested that psychopaths seem to not consider their deceptive verbal behavior to be inconsistent with the truth and they seem unable or unwilling to monitor what they are saying, with the result that they will sometimes make a series of logically inconsistent statements with aplomb and with seeming unawareness of what they have done
… "

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
15. Sheldon must have called Mitt and said
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:43 AM
Sep 2012

you get out there and make some hay out of this, dammit!

so Mittsy goes public, and totally unprepared as he always is but also always fearful of Sheldon, stumbles onto the stage bleary brained and just tosses out a word salad that betters anything Palin could mix up.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
22. Romney doesn't want to be bothered with the duties of the office of the President
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:00 PM
Sep 2012

He just wants the title to add to his vitae.

He's incapable of leading this country and ANYONE with ANY sense can see that!

How anyone could continue to support this man for President is beyond me. To continue to support Romney, one would have to completely and totally refuse to see the obvious. Yes, there are some people out there who can be that stupid!

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
33. 33% of the American people
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:23 PM
Sep 2012

refuse to see ANY facts that conflict with their dogma. Reversible Mittens will always have that floor under him.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
43. That's right.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:50 PM
Sep 2012

And so many of them aren't really "for" Romney as much as they are simply "against" Obama. I deal with those types every day. As you indicate, there is no factual discussion with them. It is THEIR way because they say it's their way!!! They can't and won't bother their pretty little heads with facts.

I have no patience for those types any more!

jsr

(7,712 posts)
23. But but Mitt Romney is a brilliant business executive!
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:01 PM
Sep 2012

Goes to show the true "intelligence" of most corporate CEOs.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
25. Boy and I thought that McCain seemed incompetent
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:06 PM
Sep 2012

It makes his 2008 campaign look brilliant by comparison IMHO

polichick

(37,152 posts)
26. Working with his friend Netanyahu to influence the election...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

...according to Lawrence O'Donnell (this morning on msnbc).

Sounds about right.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
30. Substitute "McCain" for Romney and "the Economy" for "Foreign Policy"...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:18 PM
Sep 2012

Does that answer your question?

bcool

(219 posts)
32. It's just a trial run
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:22 PM
Sep 2012

My theory is that this campaign is just a trial run to see if unlimited money can get anyone elected, no matter what their qualifications. If it succeeds, then the powers that be will know they have free reign to do whatever they want in future elections.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
39. who wrote his statement? a 6 year old grandchild?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:52 PM
Sep 2012

that was some ham handed generalities. He couldn't even say the word Benghazi.

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