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GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:54 PM Sep 2012

This whole blaming thing for the rioting/killing gets murky.

At first, I thought this:

You know how rapists make excuses. She was drunk. She was wearing a miniskirt. So forth and so on. They're all excuses for a crime that the rapist is entirely responsible for. The woman never is. Never.

Similarly, the rioting and killing by Muslims "in response" to that film is a crime that those individuals are responsible for. They did the rioting. They did the killing. The producer of the film was responsible for making a bad, offensive film - but is not responsible for the riots and killing. The person who does the killing is responsible for the crime.

But then, I thought:

What about someone who orders a hit? It's not just the hit man who's responsible for the murder. There's an accessory to that crime, because of intent.

So I really think it comes down to this:

What was the intent of the filmmaker? Was it the intent of the filmmaker to cause rioting? That wouldn't surprise me; it makes the rioters and Islam, by extension (at least, in the minds of many), look bad. Was it the intent of the filmmaker to cause a US citizen to be killed? I have my doubts about that. Therefore, I would consider the filmmaker culpable in part for the rioting, but not for homicide, unless you considered the death an inevitable consequence of the intended riots and called it negligent homicide.

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This whole blaming thing for the rioting/killing gets murky. (Original Post) GaYellowDawg Sep 2012 OP
And who REALLY made the film JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #1
The film was merely a pretext for a planned attack. hugo_from_TN Sep 2012 #2
One major item you're not considering is that these people have spent their lives under sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #3
That's a good point JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #4

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
1. And who REALLY made the film
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:06 PM
Sep 2012

I'm going to bide my time here - but I don't think the purported 'director/producer' even exists. I can't find this guy anywhere and due to my job - I have the ability to look into things much deeper than spokeo.

We're going to find out that someone VERY wealthy, very American, and very FUNDAMENTALIST Christian is behind this. And then the intent will be clear.

hugo_from_TN

(1,069 posts)
2. The film was merely a pretext for a planned attack.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

If the film didn't exist some other pretext would be found.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
3. One major item you're not considering is that these people have spent their lives under
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:21 PM
Sep 2012

governments that controlled every aspect of them. Under a tyrant, the government controls what films are released. So, they protested and attacked extensions of the US government because they view our government as responsible for the film being out there.

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
4. That's a good point
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:25 PM
Sep 2012

Now did the film maker know this? The person who posted/promoted it on YouTube? The person who dubbed the English with Arabic? What you wrote is the truth - but someone here knew that truth too.

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