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**Breaking: WH approval ratings crash in Gallup-43%!** (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Apr 2020 OP
Don the fucking King Con knows he's history malaise Apr 2020 #1
For the first time, I agree with the idea that he knows he's toast. I think he finally realizes pnwest Apr 2020 #35
they way he just walked away from the mic yesterday. That's a beaten man who is over his head TeamPooka Apr 2020 #37
Immortality Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #61
Famous or infamous Pick one. California_Republic Apr 2020 #74
stealing 90-percent Apr 2020 #77
He was over his head not fooled Apr 2020 #75
33,000+ dead people malaise Apr 2020 #51
I just realized that like Reagan, WhiteTara Apr 2020 #84
He's too self absorbed, too marginally intelligent, and too morally weak to understand... NNadir Apr 2020 #53
I agree. I don't think he has the capacity to know he fucked up. Solomon Apr 2020 #63
Concur. BadgerMom Apr 2020 #69
He will say it is fake news and a fake poll. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #42
His daily shitshow is going to be a doozy today, after this news. GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #50
Won't miss it malaise Apr 2020 #64
I usually watch Hal Sparks' MST3K version of it GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #73
Of course he knows. So do many other republicans. Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #67
Hardly a crash... lame54 Apr 2020 #2
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #4
15 point net swing though! NewsCenter28 Apr 2020 #6
That's the OP's point, I think greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #13
In a poll conducted regularly NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #16
Still cant wrap my head around... lame54 Apr 2020 #19
He has a massive echo chamber supporting him NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #28
And that doesn't include all the advertisers ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #70
It's always startling-- and horrifying-- to realize there are fellow Americans who continue to deurbano Apr 2020 #48
I guess that the 40% approve of the fact he does nothing useful while ooky Apr 2020 #56
It should be 27%. Mickju Apr 2020 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #8
I believe his hardcore base is about 30%..and he is going to get to that number. Stuart G Apr 2020 #43
There is ALWAYS a left end of the bell curve. Dave Starsky Apr 2020 #45
My husband works for a major airline carrier and a lot of blue collar workers still think he is kimbutgar Apr 2020 #68
I like your term "hate radio" renate Apr 2020 #79
It's impossible for him to be much below 40 Loki Liesmith Apr 2020 #9
I don think it will ever go below 37%. Turin_C3PO Apr 2020 #10
FWIW, Nixon was still polling 28% approval just days before his resignation alterfurz Apr 2020 #38
From Mounmouth Edu.....Note the difference 33% Stuart G Apr 2020 #46
Bush the Lesser at 28% belpejic Apr 2020 #49
For an old-time DUer like me NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #57
The librul ajenda is werking NightWatcher Apr 2020 #5
Trump "won" the election with numbers in the 40s Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #7
He's down quite a bit from a few weeks ago. Turin_C3PO Apr 2020 #11
I am not sanguine of that reality Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #14
If he loses the electoral college, Turin_C3PO Apr 2020 #17
People keep telling me that Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #26
I see no hard evidence of that LanternWaste Apr 2020 #44
You correct...not just toast......but totally burnt toast, through and through Stuart G Apr 2020 #58
While His Rating As A Candidate... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #18
I am taking the day off to provide rides to the polls Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #27
Good On You! ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #36
+1, ... and with help from Russia in the swing states uponit7771 Apr 2020 #82
No question. Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #83
still utterly gobsmacked barbtries Apr 2020 #12
Gallup rso Apr 2020 #15
Gallup has been generous to Gump throughout his presidency. John Fante Apr 2020 #20
Who, in the actual fuck, is satisfied with the direction of the country? Yavin4 Apr 2020 #21
I think that is actually close to the problem whopis01 Apr 2020 #80
He's now 15 points underwater in latest Rasmussen!! Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #22
I'm really surprised it's that high. Really!! demosincebirth Apr 2020 #23
How embarrassing that 43% still FAIL. GeorgeGist Apr 2020 #24
of course, though, this makes him more dangerous than ever nt Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #25
Add in the tRumpanistas - I saw a thread this morning of a pic demonstrating asiliveandbreathe Apr 2020 #32
If you are going to poll Congressional favorables, break it out between Republican and Democrat OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #29
So much WINNING! TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #30
If the next poll from yougov makes him look good marlakay Apr 2020 #31
Really interesting, thanks OnDoutside Apr 2020 #34
FFS - thats about 5 or 6 points HIGHER than reported elsewhere - this is non-essential information Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2020 #33
So we like Gallup today sarisataka Apr 2020 #39
Nope. They've been generous to Trump in comparison to other pollsters John Fante Apr 2020 #47
The way we "dislike" Gallup treestar Apr 2020 #66
I just recall a week ago sarisataka Apr 2020 #72
I would like to see it at a point less than 30% TruckFump Apr 2020 #40
The corruption, grifting and thievery will now accelerate at breakneck speed. dalton99a Apr 2020 #41
Still too lsewpershad Apr 2020 #52
Still too lsewpershad Apr 2020 #55
43% WTF? Should be 23% Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #59
We have Faux News and hate radio to thank for that sandensea Apr 2020 #62
Slipping isn't crashing. 30's or 20's hopefully next time. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2020 #60
Some of this poll was taken 2 weeks to 8 days ago...Some..Trump's latest rants are not included. Stuart G Apr 2020 #65
Nearer my God, to thee... Nearer to thee... Blue Owl Apr 2020 #71
Aww, what's the matter? Doreen Apr 2020 #76
If he believes he's screwed he's making plans to get even. After the election IMO he'll in2herbs Apr 2020 #78
So whose actual approval is probably around 37% Tribetime Apr 2020 #81
Still Troubling colsohlibgal Apr 2020 #85

malaise

(269,054 posts)
1. Don the fucking King Con knows he's history
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:48 PM
Apr 2020

He'll get more desperate - the shitshow should be extra shitty later

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
35. For the first time, I agree with the idea that he knows he's toast. I think he finally realizes
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:49 PM
Apr 2020

that he seriously fucked this up. NOT that he cares that he's caused thousands of preventable deaths - but he does care that everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, is pissed off about it and the deaths have hurt his reelection chances. I do believe that deep within himself, he knows he really fucked up this time, and it can't be fixed, reversed, ignored, sued out of existence - and he's a bit panicked, which is why he keeps losing his shit at the pressers, why he's trying to lay blame on China and WHO. He knows this is a colossal cock-up.

Up to now, every time someone said Don knows he's history, I disagreed. But there are Republicans amongst the medical first responders, and they see what's the what. They can't be gaslighted. And those in his base who have gotten sick, or even lost loved ones, they see, too.

He knows he's toast, so he's even trying to change the narrative away from the deaths by bullshitting about defunding WHO, by talking about adjourning Congress. Even that negative press is better than the deaths.





TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
37. they way he just walked away from the mic yesterday. That's a beaten man who is over his head
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:52 PM
Apr 2020

in the deep shit.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
75. He was over his head
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Apr 2020

walking up to the podium to be inaugurated. The rich assholes who backed him gambled that the country would be OK with an incompetent psychopath in charge--and lost. I just hope the country stays reasonably intact until Biden takes over.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
84. I just realized that like Reagan,
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:08 AM
Apr 2020

he will slip into dementia to avoid having to take responsibility.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
53. He's too self absorbed, too marginally intelligent, and too morally weak to understand...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:24 PM
Apr 2020

...that he's screwed.

He will continue to get worse, not better.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
50. His daily shitshow is going to be a doozy today, after this news.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:20 PM
Apr 2020

Gird your loins, folks. And, pass the popcorn!

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
67. Of course he knows. So do many other republicans.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:50 PM
Apr 2020

That's why they are looting the place. I mean they always have been, but they're doing it on steroids now. When was the last time they printed trillions of dollars of money and made it look like they were giving it away, all the while stealing more than half of it.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. In a poll conducted regularly
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:00 PM
Apr 2020

a drop of 6 points in a week after 3 years of fairly steady numbers week after week is a major move.

lame54

(35,293 posts)
19. Still cant wrap my head around...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:04 PM
Apr 2020

Him ever having 40+% approval

Any ONE of Trump's actions should drop it lower than that
If you add them all together his approval should be O%

40+% is YUGE

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
28. He has a massive echo chamber supporting him
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:20 PM
Apr 2020
TV:
Fox News
OAN
Sinclair Broadcasting

Radio:
Rush Limbaugh
Scores of Rush wannabes across the nation
Cumulus Media

Newspapers
NY Post, Washington Times and hundreds of local and regional newspapers nationwide

Internet
Breitbart, Info Wars, and thousands of other far right websites amplified by an army of Russian bots and trolls



aggiesal

(8,917 posts)
70. And that doesn't include all the advertisers ...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:01 PM
Apr 2020

on any and all of these communication media, you've listed, that also donate to Pendejo45's campaign.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
48. It's always startling-- and horrifying-- to realize there are fellow Americans who continue to
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:16 PM
Apr 2020

support this walking shit show.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
56. I guess that the 40% approve of the fact he does nothing useful while
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:27 PM
Apr 2020

they are staring down at joblessness, no healthcare, potential bankruptcy, hunger, and ultimately, homelessness. Who wouldn't want more of that? Although, I didn't get the impression that those magats protesting yesterday were particularly happy with their individual situations.

Response to NewsCenter28 (Original post)

Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #3)

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
43. I believe his hardcore base is about 30%..and he is going to get to that number.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:04 PM
Apr 2020

And when it gets there, it will stay there. There are still some "undecideds"..When this poll was taken, (maybe on the weekend) the latest Trump foolishness had not hit. It will go down, down, and down.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
45. There is ALWAYS a left end of the bell curve.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:13 PM
Apr 2020

Roughly 25% of adults in this country are not competent to tie their own shoes. I imagine the Venn diagram of them and Trump supporters is nearly a perfect circle.

kimbutgar

(21,162 posts)
68. My husband works for a major airline carrier and a lot of blue collar workers still think he is
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:51 PM
Apr 2020

Doing a great job and use fake and hoax all the time about his CV response. Even though they are still getting paid (Thank you Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic party) my hubby points this out to them and they walk away from him. They are unwavering and listen to OANN, Fox and to hate radio on their long commutes out to the SF Bay Area suburbs. Ironically those co workers who live closer to the airport and don’t hear the hate radio are vehemently anti MF45.

renate

(13,776 posts)
79. I like your term "hate radio"
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:00 PM
Apr 2020

"Right-wing radio" just doesn't cut it any more. It's hate all the way down.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
10. I don think it will ever go below 37%.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:54 PM
Apr 2020

That was his low number in 2017, I believe after his Charlottesville comments. He should be at ten percent or less, in my estimation.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
46. From Mounmouth Edu.....Note the difference 33%
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:13 PM
Apr 2020

After the Supreme Court ordered the Oval Office tapes’ release and the Judiciary Committee actually passed articles of impeachment in late July, support for removing Nixon from office rose dramatically to 57%, while his job approval rating held steady at 24%.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/2017/06/12/public-opinion-on-impeachment-lessons-from-watergate/m

belpejic

(720 posts)
49. Bush the Lesser at 28%
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:17 PM
Apr 2020

I think the chimp was around 28% when he left office. Maybe the floor is ~30%.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
57. For an old-time DUer like me
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:29 PM
Apr 2020

weren't a lot of us saying the same thing about Bush in 2003 and 2004? How is his approval so high with the ongoing Iraq debacle?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. The librul ajenda is werking
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:51 PM
Apr 2020

All we had to do was kill over 143,000 people around the globe JUST TO MAKE trump LOOK BAD!!!

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
11. He's down quite a bit from a few weeks ago.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:55 PM
Apr 2020

If his approval rating stays under 45%, he’s toast in November.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,465 posts)
14. I am not sanguine of that reality
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:57 PM
Apr 2020

4 in 10 people believe this man and will do anything he commands. Trump is not going to go quietly.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
17. If he loses the electoral college,
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:00 PM
Apr 2020

he’ll be removed from the Oval Office in January whether he likes it or not. At that point, Biden would be the commander in chief and can order the Secret Service or US Marshalls to arrest him if he attempts to overstay his welcome.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,465 posts)
26. People keep telling me that
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:10 PM
Apr 2020

but Trump has shown no concern for the law. Also, having replaced so many people with loyalists, there is no guarantee that law enforcement or the military will obey the law. I also see Trump directly interfering in the elections by using the NG, or soldiers to "quarantine" areas that pose a danger to public heath, i.e. Blue States.

If that fails, he can always call on his followers to form armed patrols that he will "deputize" to "protect" polling locations from "fraud". The GOP will certainly back him with voter suppression actions, and they are prepared to kill the USPS to prevent vote by mail.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. I see no hard evidence of that
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:07 PM
Apr 2020

Simply his tantrums and subjective sentiments which change on a whim.

(Approval ratings are neither objects of desire or ablative absolutes...)

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
18. While His Rating As A Candidate...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:03 PM
Apr 2020

...was very low, the delta between him and HRC was only 4.3%, aggregated. They were both deeply underwater.
Plus/minus 2%, it was a dead heat.
The delta between him & Biden is much greater. I couldn't find enough data on Biden to aggregate the numbers. But, it's closer to 2x, with Biden net positive, compared to 2016.
Still, as you suggest, GOTV & don't get cocky.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
21. Who, in the actual fuck, is satisfied with the direction of the country?
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:07 PM
Apr 2020

Unless 30% of the nation is Agoraphobic.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
80. I think that is actually close to the problem
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 08:29 AM
Apr 2020

Not agoraphobic in the literal sense, but rather in more of a social / ideological sense.

An actual agoraphobe is afraid of leaving the house, being in a wide open area, or being in a crowd.

These are people who are afraid of being exposed to thoughts and ideas outside of their narrow world view. Afraid of being in a society crowded with varying thoughts and ideas. Afraid of being exposed in the open without the comfort of completely like minded people around them.

So certainly not actual agoraphobia - but something similar.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
32. Add in the tRumpanistas - I saw a thread this morning of a pic demonstrating
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

the demons yelling outside of MI Statehouse..reminded me of Zombielanders..or body snatchers..freaky scary, no other way to describe ..

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
29. If you are going to poll Congressional favorables, break it out between Republican and Democrat
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:22 PM
Apr 2020

Representitives. A poll of 'Congress' doesn't really give much insight.

marlakay

(11,474 posts)
31. If the next poll from yougov makes him look good
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:30 PM
Apr 2020

I will tell you why. I have been doing their surveys since they were polling point 14 yrs ago.

They just had me do a long survey on covid yesterday but this one showed little clips of Trump from his latest briefs and they showed just a flash of him saying something nice. On each one you were suppose to say what you thought of what he said, terrible, poor, fair, good, excellent

I said terrible for all except him saying something about this guy who died and on that i said ok.

In the comment section at end I said good try, doing a survey where you only show tiny clips of president saying nice things that he doesn’t mean written by someone else why i said all was terrible.

They usually have more fair surveys but someone must have paid big bucks to make sure he gets high ratings.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
47. Nope. They've been generous to Trump in comparison to other pollsters
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:15 PM
Apr 2020

and still are. Even Rasmussen has him at 40% right now.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
72. I just recall a week ago
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:20 PM
Apr 2020

Or thereabouts that Gallup said his rating went up. They were denigrated as being unreliable with a laundry list of reasons why their numbers are inaccurate.

Now when the same polling says his numbers are down, we seem to put a lot of faith believing they are correct (even if the exact number may not be correct)



Actually that pretty much is the case with any poll.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
40. I would like to see it at a point less than 30%
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:57 PM
Apr 2020

Of course, if the red states and rural areas are getting hit hard with CV 19, there may be a future rating for the Orange Asshole of less than 30%.

IMO: Best name for him ever? THE DEATH PREZ.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
60. Slipping isn't crashing. 30's or 20's hopefully next time.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:41 PM
Apr 2020

And who knew how many End Timers we have. Get Gallup on that.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
65. Some of this poll was taken 2 weeks to 8 days ago...Some..Trump's latest rants are not included.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:49 PM
Apr 2020

"These data are from an April 1-14 Gallup poll." see link in original post.

What is most important to me, is the Trump rants from April 10 on, show he has fallen apart. Worse and worse.
Lies on top of lies. That core of undecided voters is shifting from neutral to Anti-Trump....That ugly side of Trump has been exposed clearly and in a very ugly way to those "undecided voters"..

...We know, and the Republicans know, and the media knows, but those undecided voters and those who don't know nothing, are beginning to see the truth.. And there will be no turning back. Once people see the truth, if that number is 20% shifting to Anti-Trump, then it is over in my opinion. And yes, it will go below 35% in my opinion.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
76. Aww, what's the matter?
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:48 PM
Apr 2020

Did a few trump humpers get denied ventilators? Did a trump humper just realize mom could have lived if trump wasn't having the fed's steal all of the supplies to help and protect them?

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
78. If he believes he's screwed he's making plans to get even. After the election IMO he'll
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:52 PM
Apr 2020

really be dangerous as with each passing day he will realize he is that much closer to being prosecuted.

IMO, I think his lawyers are setting him up so that they can claim incompetency as will be their answer to all criminal and civil lawsuits coming his way after the election.

Tribetime

(4,699 posts)
81. So whose actual approval is probably around 37%
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 08:36 AM
Apr 2020

Keep doing your shitshow Donnie the only one watching are the Fox nuts who are turning on you.You will never beat a pandemic

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
85. Still Troubling
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:51 AM
Apr 2020

Whatever percentage it is it’s frightening and too many. 43% are just fine with this evil clown show.....they have issues upstairs.

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