The Wuhan death toll has been revised up by 50%

[Clash City Rocker]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-chinas-wuhan-city-revises-up-death-toll-by-1-290-a-50-increase-11974466

How much do we trust any country’s numbers at this point? I don’t even trust our country’s numbers.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I especially don't trust our country's numbers.

[sheshe2]

2. +1000

Nor do I.

They are hiding the numbers and refusing tests.

[yonder]

3. roger that on the especially.

[Blue Owl]

4. Desperate Donny's doing anything to salvage what's left of his approval

He'd cheat the count even if it was his own mother...

[SoonerPride]

16. +32,567

[BigmanPigman]

5. The numbers have increased a lot in various places today..

Wuhan (China), the epicenter of the pandemic, today reported 1,290 additional deaths that had not been previously counted and reported, bringing the total number of deaths in Wuhan from 2,579 to 3,869, an increase of 50%, as the result of a revision by the Wuhan New Coronary Pneumonia Epidemic Prevention and Control. As part of this revision, 325 additional cases in Wuhan were also added. Separately, China's National Health Commission (NHC) reported 26 new cases (and no deaths) in its daily report.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

The number of deaths increased over 1,500 in the middle of the day. They printed an explanation (at that same link) which said the CDC is telling states to count all the probable covid like deaths. Some states are doing this and others aren't. It is still inconsistent and some states follow it while others do not.

"New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Wednesday said that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had changed guidelines for how coronavirus deaths were to be recorded."

"They want deaths, and then another category of probable deaths," Mr Cuomo said, to be administered by local health departments or coroners. He added that people who passed away outside of a hospital or nursing home may have been missed in previous counts."

"Municipalities in Connecticut, Ohio and Delaware have begun to recorded cases where the infection is assumed but not confirmed with a test, Dr Barbot told the New York Times, while officials in California and Seattle only count virus deaths if proven with a positive test."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52303739

[JI7]

6. Depends on the country. There are good reasons not to trust China, and Right now there are good

reasons not to trust the US.

But one of the problems with the US is getting testing done in the first place and the Trump admin preventing or delaying things from being done that any other person in a similar position would have done .

[Talitha]

7. And how many untested/undocumented COVID-19 deaths have there been?

Lots, I bet.

[alittlelark]

8. Maybe they 'forgot' nursing homes - as have we.

[sinkingfeeling]

9. Didn't New York just do the same?

[uponit7771]

12. very similar

[ProfessorGAC]

10. I Still Don't Believe Their Numbers

Just for Wuhan, I'd have to at least triple it.
And, I don't believe the spread to other parts of the country wasn't 10x that.
The population density in their big cities makes Chicago look like Wyoming.

[uponit7771]

11. I trust China's more than the US's because CDC isn't keeping track of data

[malaise]

13. I watched BBC earlier and they said the Chinese added many of the people who

died at home - not unlike New York. I think all countries are missing numbers

[Johnny2X2X]

14. Wuhan is a very modern region

A lot of Americans are ignorant of what life is like in China, but Chinese cities are in a lot of way more advanced than American cities. So the average American hears Wuhan, and they think of some Soviet era communist society where toilet paper is hard to find. Some of China's cities put the US's cities to shame technology wise and infrastructure wise. Much more modern than most American cities. Not sure about Wuhan, I'm sure it's no Shanghai, but the thought it's not connected and advanced is probably really wrong.

Long story short, the Chinese government has no more ability to disappear thousands of people that the US government does. I don't necessarily believe their counts, but they aren't going to be off by a factor of 5 or anything like that.

[NewJeffCT]

15. Didn't the Washington Post estimate it to be closer to 40,000 in Wuhan?

not that long ago based on various public records available in China.

I'd trust the Washington Post over China.