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50 degrees in Detroit. On Jan. 7...... (Original Post) marmar Jan 2012 OP
Minnesota has had a really warm winter as well Bjorn Against Jan 2012 #1
We're gonna get up to 60 today here in New York. RevStPatrick Jan 2012 #2
Just Remember: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING! DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #3
It doesn't, it has to do with La Nina....the same way that last years extra snowy winter... Joe the Revelator Jan 2012 #8
It very likely does have something to do with climate change Bjorn Against Jan 2012 #19
Balmy spring day here in Philly.... PCIntern Jan 2012 #4
Fucking glorious day in metro Detroit. I dunno if it's "natural" or not. But still very nice. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #5
Pretty warm here in Dayton Ohio Too. ;( Howler Jan 2012 #6
60 here in NY. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #7
Detroit huh quinnox Jan 2012 #9
-20 and blowing snow in Prudhoe Bay. Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #10
Cold but dry here in Portland, Oregon neverforget Jan 2012 #11
This is going to dramatically effect our food supply and prices MadHound Jan 2012 #12
I know the maple syrup folks are worried customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #20
Well, all of the rain we've had will keep the lakes up for a while. Denninmi Jan 2012 #13
But the rain is not nearly as important as the snowpack when it comes to the lakes. marmar Jan 2012 #14
68 in Richmond VA underpants Jan 2012 #15
I'm in Waterford and so far today's high has been 41. I'ts still warm for Janurary notadmblnd Jan 2012 #16
That big a difference 20-something miles away? Wild. marmar Jan 2012 #17
Detroit should be like nine degrees today NBachers Jan 2012 #18
I'm worried about the lake levels too (I live in Westland) boxman15 Jan 2012 #21
The problem is that it has been more than one winter Bjorn Against Jan 2012 #22

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
1. Minnesota has had a really warm winter as well
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jan 2012

Here in the Twin Cities we have been in the mid forties this past week which is nearly unheard of for January, and Southwestern Minnesota reached into the sixties on Thursday which has never happened before in January. It may feel nice, but I too am worried about global warming.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
2. We're gonna get up to 60 today here in New York.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:16 PM
Jan 2012

I like global warming!!!

Except of course, that's it's going to destroy the planet as we know it.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
8. It doesn't, it has to do with La Nina....the same way that last years extra snowy winter...
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:41 PM
Jan 2012

Did not disprove global warming.

Weather does not equal climate.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
19. It very likely does have something to do with climate change
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jan 2012

You are right that weather is not the same as climate, but large shifts in weather patterns could indicate a change in climate. Those of us who live in Minnesota have seen big changes in our climate over the past fifteen years or so, nearly every Minnesota adult who has lived in this state for their whole life will tell you that our winters were much more harsh when we were children than they are now.

PCIntern

(25,543 posts)
4. Balmy spring day here in Philly....
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jan 2012

Yeah, I remember a lot of early January days like this in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's...of ocurse...

WE USED TO HAVE SERIAL SNOW AND ICE STORMS THIS TIME OF YEAR AND FRIGID COLD!!!!!

Howler

(4,225 posts)
6. Pretty warm here in Dayton Ohio Too. ;(
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jan 2012

Been so for the last couple of days. Even sat out on the porch yesterday afternoon.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
12. This is going to dramatically effect our food supply and prices
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jan 2012

Here in the Midwest, farmers are worried about the winter wheat crop. It has already sprouted, and is growing rapidly. If the wheat reaches four inches, and then a freeze hits, the crop loss will be massive.

Orchardists, myself included, are keeping a close eye on the temperature. Certain fruit trees, including apples and pears, require between two and four hundred hours of below freezing temperatures in order to properly bloom and fruit. Without such cold, there will be little to no fruit. Right now, we're running at about a quarter to half of the required number of hours.

Not to mention that a lack of snow means a lack of nitrogen returning to the soil, when means less fertile soil. Furthermore, a lack of snow means that the deep soil layers are not getting the necessary moisture to sustain growth next season. Here in Missouri, we've suffered from a severe drought over the summer and fall. While we've had some moisture, starting in September, our deep soil layers need at least thirteen more inches of moisture in order to have a normal growing season this year.

This lack of cold, snowy weather, while pleasant for us in the short term, could very well spell long term problems.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. I know the maple syrup folks are worried
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:26 PM
Jan 2012

Their trees need a good blanket of snow on the ground to produce a decent sap run as temperatures warm.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
13. Well, all of the rain we've had will keep the lakes up for a while.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jan 2012

Not only is it freakishly warm, 2011 was the wettest year on record in Detroit, breaking the previous record set in 1880.

I wonder if we will flip flop, and have a very dry year in 2012.

Time to set up the drip irrigation on the garden for next year.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
16. I'm in Waterford and so far today's high has been 41. I'ts still warm for Janurary
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jan 2012

but I don't think we'll see 50 out here.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
21. I'm worried about the lake levels too (I live in Westland)
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jan 2012

But just remember not to use one winter as proof/disproof of global warming. Those on both sides of the argument (aka people who live in reality and those who don't) like to use one abnormally warm or cold winter to support their arguments.

Climate and weather are not the same thing.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
22. The problem is that it has been more than one winter
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jan 2012

The past few years have been among the warmest on record, while there have been cold snaps the average surface temperature has been on the rise for some time now.

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