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ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:51 AM Apr 2020

Trump's Disinfectant Thing

No!
These are SURFACE active microbicides! They work on the SURFACE of objects. (They also work way faster than 1 minutes, but the CDC testing was for 1 minute. The chemical reactions with active chlorine compounds show kinetic rates that are 1/50th of that. A little extra contact time for reasons of mass transfer is useful.)
They do not work at the tiny concentration that would result from dilution in the blood stream.
This would not only be exceedingly dangerous, but also useless!

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Trump's Disinfectant Thing (Original Post) ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 OP
DU isn't populated with morons. Your post would really be better served on RW websites. hlthe2b Apr 2020 #1
If I Had Any Intention Of Going There ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #5
I just find the assumption this needed to be pointed out to DUers rather strange hlthe2b Apr 2020 #7
Everyone Has Their Own Opinion ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #9
Honestly, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #13
As always, well written, Sir (n/t) PJMcK Apr 2020 #15
I have more respect for my fellow DUers than either of you, apparently. hlthe2b Apr 2020 #16
I Stand By The Comment, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #19
As do I, SIR hlthe2b Apr 2020 #20
Best Of the Day To You, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #21
Not really what I'd recommend... hlthe2b Apr 2020 #22
Hey, I'm glad you poputate DU w/ these thoughts of yours. Someone has got to advance ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #8
Do you really think there are no RWers lurking here? Mariana Apr 2020 #23
You and I would be arrested for leaving cleansers in places where children found malaise Apr 2020 #2
Don't worry about being poisoned by disinfectants injected into the blood stream Botany Apr 2020 #3
Maybe he can get KC and The Sunshine Band to promote livetohike Apr 2020 #12
Maybe he can guinea pig that UV and injected bleach thing. bullimiami Apr 2020 #4
Good One! ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #6
But how would he get the guinea pig IN there? robbob Apr 2020 #25
You had me at "Trump's Disinfectant Thing." (nt) Paladin Apr 2020 #10
I was talking to my son Books_Tea_Alone Apr 2020 #11
Your Son Gives Him Too Much Credit ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #14
Stupid man who thinks he's a genius. His ego is out of control. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2020 #17
I agree..his lack of intelligence is so pervasive Books_Tea_Alone Apr 2020 #18
#ImbleachTrump OnDoutside Apr 2020 #24
As an educator, I thank you for this post. Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #26
Thanks, Alex (nt) ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #27

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
5. If I Had Any Intention Of Going There
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:04 AM
Apr 2020

But, I don't.
I never claimed anybody here was stupid, either.
Thanks for your enlightening reply, though!

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
9. Everyone Has Their Own Opinion
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:21 AM
Apr 2020

Alas, I don't share this one with you.
It was just a comment, with a technical reason why it's stupid.
Don't see how this got you disjointed.

The Magistrate

(95,252 posts)
13. Honestly, Ma'am
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:33 AM
Apr 2020

The arrant stupidity of these two posts has me flummoxed. Perhaps it is simply how early in the morning this is, and you are commenting without adequate coffee.

Your suggestion the gentleman you are addressing even might think members of this forum have to be told not to inject or swallow bleach and other disinfectants is as foolish as it is offensive.

That apparently you cannot think of any other reason than warning people not to do it for someone to take the time to lay out some reasons why it would not work, even beyond the obvious poisonous nature of the chemicals involved, bespeaks a serious want of imagination, to say the least.

On reflection, you may find use of the self-delete function advisable.

hlthe2b

(102,343 posts)
16. I have more respect for my fellow DUers than either of you, apparently.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:39 AM
Apr 2020

and that has always included you, The Magistrate, who I enthusiastically welcomed back after your long absence. I still do so despite your attempt to deride for stating the obvious.


I do not believe DUERs to require condescending posts to remind them not to drink nor ingest bleach. Commenting on Trump's stupid comments is quite different from that.

And yes, perhaps your OWN use of self-delete is good advice to keep in mind, SIR.

The Magistrate

(95,252 posts)
19. I Stand By The Comment, Ma'am
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:57 AM
Apr 2020

And hope you reconsider.

I found the Professor's laying out of why surface disinfectants would not work within the body, even supposing one that was not poisonous could be found, interesting and illuminating. I certainly did not feel I, or anyone else here, was being warned by that explanation not to inject or swallow surface disinfectants as a remedy or a preventive against the current contagion. I am puzzled that is the meaning you take from it, and still insist upon ascribing to it. Two meanings which seem far more likely are simple pleasure in providing information and understanding to others, and setting out a line of argument which might be of use to those among us who do visit open forums infested with right-wingers, or troll overtly right-wing sites.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
8. Hey, I'm glad you poputate DU w/ these thoughts of yours. Someone has got to advance ...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:19 AM
Apr 2020

more scientific, rational thought somewhere (on DU for example) so the occasional republican who ventures over to DU to actually read some pretty well reasoned and rational arguments that actually makes sense / logic.

When you have folks like Steven Moore, Rush L., etc. all mouthpieces of some dubious value, occupying faux news and the like, where do people turn, for actually making sense of things?

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
23. Do you really think there are no RWers lurking here?
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 08:52 AM
Apr 2020

Regardless of that, we all know better than to inject disinfectants, and the Professor isn't implying otherwise. We all know it's a stupid idea, and it's dangerous and wouldn't work, but it's interesting to read the explanation of exactly why it wouldn't work.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
2. You and I would be arrested for leaving cleansers in places where children found
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:54 AM
Apr 2020

them. drank them and died.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
3. Don't worry about being poisoned by disinfectants injected into the blood stream
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:56 AM
Apr 2020

Because you will be burned to death by the U.V. rays of "his other cure" first.


Books_Tea_Alone

(253 posts)
11. I was talking to my son
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:25 AM
Apr 2020

Ph.D in Biomedical Engineering from Johns Hopkins and it is his thought that someone was talking to him about "surfactants" (a legit medical intervention for lung issues) and idiot T.rump in his dementia state processes it and regurgitates as "disinfectants".

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
14. Your Son Gives Him Too Much Credit
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:36 AM
Apr 2020

With all due respect to your son, of course.
He said it because he's a buffoon. No deeper reason is required.
And, your son's possible explanation doesn't begin to cover the stupid subdermal uV blather.
He's just a stupid, stupid man and just blurts out stupid, stupud thoughts.

Books_Tea_Alone

(253 posts)
18. I agree..his lack of intelligence is so pervasive
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:56 AM
Apr 2020

No offense taken just another example of his screw ups and how they continue to have deadly consequences. I agree he is evil incarnate mixed and the poster child for the dumbing down of America

Alex4Martinez

(2,198 posts)
26. As an educator, I thank you for this post.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 10:19 AM
Apr 2020

Possibly chief among many mistakes made by educators, and this includes virtually everyone including parents, siblings, store clerks and elected officials, is a common assumption that others must know a particular fact or concept, like the concepts of dilutions concentrations.

Good DUers do not necessarily all understand how horribly wrong the president is, not in a detailed way, and your posts are always welcome.

Ironically, the suggestion that the information would be better shared to sites which shall not be named is, frankly, silly, as visitors of such sites lack the cognitive tools needed to understand your arguments and the soul required to do anything about it if they did comprehend them.

So, hats off to you, Professor!

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