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Quixote1818

(29,169 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:25 AM Apr 2020

Ex-Bush aide has chilling theory about Donald Trump's coronavirus strategy

LEE MORAN
Apr 29th 2020 10:09AM
An ex-speechwriter for former President George W. Bush on Tuesday argued that President Donald Trump is sacrificing the lives of other Americans to the coronavirus crisis in a “desperate” bid to save himself politically.

In a thread on Twitter, David Frum claimed reports the White House is now pivoting its pandemic messaging to the economy showed Trump is “consciously choosing to risk higher virus casualties” in the second quarter of 2020 “in hope of jolting the economy into revival in Q3 to save his re-election” in November.

“It’s a desperate gamble to save himself by sacrificing others,” wrote Frum, who is now a senior editor at The Atlantic, warning: “It’s also not very likely to work.”

Frum noted in a later tweet how “many leaders would be daunted by the human costs of Trump’s desperate re-election plan.”

More: https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/29/ex-bush-aide-has-chilling-theory-about-donald-trumps-coronavirus-strategy/24142457/

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Ex-Bush aide has chilling theory about Donald Trump's coronavirus strategy (Original Post) Quixote1818 Apr 2020 OP
KICK Mike 03 Apr 2020 #1
Well, duh!!!! Nice that he spoke up and pointed out the obvious though. KPN Apr 2020 #2
I had the same reaction, well almost mercuryblues Apr 2020 #6
Right! He makes it sound like the radical idea of some lone, obscure, person. It's common knowledge! Towlie Apr 2020 #9
Also Frum wrote: PCIntern Apr 2020 #17
... or as the Talking Heads put it: Towlie Apr 2020 #18
Except DownriverDem Apr 2020 #29
The calculation is more PoC voters in urban areas die off than MAGA Suckers. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #36
I would add... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #3
There is some thought Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #4
Yes. Newest Reality Apr 2020 #7
Duh! malaise Apr 2020 #5
I'd be really cautious about assuming that he has some sort of long range plan. Bleacher Creature Apr 2020 #8
True, there's always Hanlon's Razor. Towlie Apr 2020 #11
I am with you there. ramen Apr 2020 #28
As obvious as Frum's comments are gratuitous Apr 2020 #10
THGat's a good point. He's speaking to the choir here. KPN Apr 2020 #13
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #32
+1, great metaphor uponit7771 Apr 2020 #37
Trump had no compunction about cutting off medical treatment for his nephew's sick baby dalton99a Apr 2020 #12
Yes but also Danascot Apr 2020 #14
It is kind of odd timing that (1) rump moved away from NY, one of the epicenters of the CV, SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #15
If you think Trump is anything other than a Figurehead w/ figleaf of authority... NotHardly Apr 2020 #16
I think his strategy will backfire, gab13by13 Apr 2020 #19
His "Hail Typhoid Mary" pass nt relayerbob Apr 2020 #20
Pro-life IronLionZion Apr 2020 #21
I have to agree with the "Duh!" posters. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #22
Just how low will this idiot in the WH go? How low is to low for the GOP cultist? usaf-vet Apr 2020 #23
People, go back to work and die for America and for Trump's reelection bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #24
Lest we forget, when someone has no conscience, they can do anything dlk Apr 2020 #25
more death won't equal more cash. Javaman Apr 2020 #26
As one who was ashamed he voted for True Blue American Apr 2020 #43
That sounds exactly like something Trump would do. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #27
A Good Firm Grasp of that which is FUCKING OBVIOUS bubbazero Apr 2020 #30
Another way Trump gets normalized BaronChocula Apr 2020 #31
They want to cull the herd ASAP so they can change the subject nt BrightKnight Apr 2020 #33
Tragically, the economy would have done better if there were a national coordinated response flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #34
Red Don could care less if more people died than was supposed to, he'll blame the governors uponit7771 Apr 2020 #35
The worst part is I believe this is accurate pmtrindade Apr 2020 #38
Also on huffpost; link ... Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #39
No understanding of cause and effect. People can't buy goods or services if they are dead. Amaryllis Apr 2020 #40
Trump's rolling the dice, all the chips down.... Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #41
"I read Mein Kampf daily just to keep my hatred fed. I never ever sleep I just lay in my bed struggle4progress Apr 2020 #42

Towlie

(5,345 posts)
9. Right! He makes it sound like the radical idea of some lone, obscure, person. It's common knowledge!
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:06 PM
Apr 2020

PCIntern

(25,799 posts)
17. Also Frum wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:44 PM
Apr 2020

After considering several facts which have come To my attention, some of which through clandestine avenues, I have come to the conclusion that water is wet.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. I would add...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:50 AM
Apr 2020

That the ultracrepidarian cockwomble has made dictatorial President for life references all along.

He is not just desperate about the election, but about that intent. If you look at his behavior carefully it is evident. So, basically, he wants a Trump Family Dynasty. What would you expect from a malignant narcissist?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,501 posts)
4. There is some thought
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:58 AM
Apr 2020

that he is grooming Ivanka (or Don Jr.) to take over the Presidency in 2024 (assuming he wins re-election), so that he can continue to ensure that any investigations of him are squelched and that he stays out of jail. We need to stop the cycle this year, so that the Trump crime family dynasty can't even be allowed to take root.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. Yes.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:03 PM
Apr 2020

I agree, as I am sure everyone does here.

No doubt about it. Trump has to go or we have a very terrible future ahead as a country. That's a fact.

Bleacher Creature

(11,265 posts)
8. I'd be really cautious about assuming that he has some sort of long range plan.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:05 PM
Apr 2020

He has zero attention span and operates from crisis to crisis. Hell, that's why he refused to take this seriously in January and February, when he was so worried about any downturn in the stock market, even though such downturn never would have come close to what actually happened.

ramen

(800 posts)
28. I am with you there.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:19 PM
Apr 2020

I don't think there is a plan in place. I think he is just a moronic, demented, malignant narcissist who waddled into power at exactly the wrong time. There is not a strategic part of him that I have seen yet.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. As obvious as Frum's comments are
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

He's not making them to tell us on the left what we already know. To the extent he's burning off any credibility he has in conservative circles, though, his remarks might make better sense there, and actually encourage more people to hop off the Trump train as it careens toward Shonash Ravine.

We are at the point of the movie where the criminal mastermind, in a desperate chase to escape the law, begins tossing minions over the side to lighten the load and go faster.

dalton99a

(82,083 posts)
12. Trump had no compunction about cutting off medical treatment for his nephew's sick baby
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:13 PM
Apr 2020

Does he really care about old people?


Danascot

(4,714 posts)
14. Yes but also
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:34 PM
Apr 2020

He's cruel and a sadist and he gets his jollies from seeing people suffer and die, even his supporters.

SWBTATTReg

(22,460 posts)
15. It is kind of odd timing that (1) rump moved away from NY, one of the epicenters of the CV,
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:39 PM
Apr 2020

and that Barr asked for unlimited powers to hold detainees indefinitely, w/o getting in front of a judge, etc.

It sounds like they knew that the CV was coming in advance, otherwise why take these steps?

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
16. If you think Trump is anything other than a Figurehead w/ figleaf of authority...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:40 PM
Apr 2020

you are not understanding what has been happening to American democracy, decency, and a whole hell of a lot of money while citizens die and Republicans/Corporations loot this country.

gab13by13

(21,884 posts)
19. I think his strategy will backfire,
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:56 PM
Apr 2020

unless he rigs the numbers more so than he is doing now. Florida just got caught not reporting Covid-19 deaths.

What's he going to do to stimulate the economy, force people to take cruises, fly on airplanes, eat at restaurants, go to movies and plays?

Unless people feel safe they aren't going to return to normalcy.

usaf-vet

(6,328 posts)
23. Just how low will this idiot in the WH go? How low is to low for the GOP cultist?
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020

Here is another low mark IMHO

The White House Gift Shop is selling coronavirus commemorative coins now
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142482483

Who gets the profits from that evil venture?
Follow the money.

dlk

(11,679 posts)
25. Lest we forget, when someone has no conscience, they can do anything
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:39 PM
Apr 2020

We are seeing this in real time every day.

Javaman

(62,590 posts)
26. more death won't equal more cash.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:41 PM
Apr 2020

at the end of the Nuremberg Trials, a psychologist that was interviewing the nazi's summarized his interviews and research with this quote, "a monster is a person without empathy"

we have a monster in the white house.

True Blue American

(18,009 posts)
43. As one who was ashamed he voted for
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:27 AM
Apr 2020

Trump put it,” We have a crazy man running the train!” He is voting straight Democratic this year, along with 5 others in his Focus Group! All life long Republicans.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
30. A Good Firm Grasp of that which is FUCKING OBVIOUS
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:26 PM
Apr 2020
Ex speechwriter for Bush,..yea, that'll lend credence to your startling insight. Welcome to reality FRUM.

BaronChocula

(1,702 posts)
31. Another way Trump gets normalized
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:26 PM
Apr 2020

Smartypants like Frum who want desperately to sound like smartypants contrive theories behind "Trump strategy" when the most obvious explanation is that there is no strategy. We will think Frum is smart when he stops assuming Trump has the attention span to execute a single plan.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
34. Tragically, the economy would have done better if there were a national coordinated response
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:59 PM
Apr 2020

Instead lives and fortunes will be lost. Because trump.

Grasswire2

(13,587 posts)
41. Trump's rolling the dice, all the chips down....
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:58 PM
Apr 2020

....and hoping nobody remembers that his casinos went bankrupt.

struggle4progress

(118,494 posts)
42. "I read Mein Kampf daily just to keep my hatred fed. I never ever sleep I just lay in my bed
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:09 PM
Apr 2020

dreamin of the day when everyone is dead"

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