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Fri May 1, 2020, 05:42 AM

Don't worry about these milita turds My observations as a infantry vet

My neighbor is one and he now made friend on Facebook so our local militia has grown to three my neighbor his son and their friend . Several weeks ago I was out walking and I stopped and talked with them as they were heading out to get some range time.
My observations

Their well supplied on flags my neighbor flys
American flag
Rebel flag on his flag pole
A trump pence 2020 flag on his porch

Fatigues yes they had on camo fatigues with boonie soft hat not sure why you have to wear fatigues as civilian I donít think it helps with marksmanship. Speaking from experience I knew some dudes that couldnít hit H20 standing three feet away in fatigues.

Battle rattle they all have AR- 15 problem here is they only have five twenty round magazineís between the three of them. So any suppression fire is gonna be lacking. Me personally I always preferred thirty round magazines and made sure my people carried them as well. Yes I was a spray and pray type with my M-16 put out rounds.

Personal gear two of them had web gear with the web suspenders one just had web belt. And between the three of them they have three ammo pouches and one canteen. As for rations the Mrs militia packed them sandwiches for their cooler. Our Newfie was sniffing the cooler his tail was wagging hey how about hooking a Newfie up fellas.

Personally Iím not that impressed and I think these three. Would have a hard time holding off a ground attack by a platoon of Girl Scouts. None of them has ever served this republic so itís like kids playing soldier when we were young.

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Reply Don't worry about these milita turds My observations as a infantry vet (Original post)
TEB May 2020 OP
tazkcmo May 2020 #1
TEB May 2020 #7
tazkcmo May 2020 #31
TheBlackAdder May 2020 #62
tazkcmo May 2020 #63
gibraltar72 May 2020 #2
Delphinus May 2020 #14
safeinOhio May 2020 #33
N_E_1 for Tennis May 2020 #43
Chainfire May 2020 #3
Mopar151 May 2020 #4
TEB May 2020 #5
weissmam May 2020 #6
usaf-vet May 2020 #44
Dirty Socialist May 2020 #8
brewens May 2020 #9
Sierra89 May 2020 #10
Kaleva May 2020 #15
WinstonSmith4740 May 2020 #32
Tommy_Carcetti May 2020 #11
oldsoftie May 2020 #12
JI7 May 2020 #17
oldsoftie May 2020 #26
JudyM May 2020 #65
Glorfindel May 2020 #13
TEB May 2020 #16
gordianot May 2020 #18
mercuryblues May 2020 #19
TEB May 2020 #20
mercuryblues May 2020 #37
Jirel May 2020 #21
jmg257 May 2020 #22
catbyte May 2020 #23
TEB May 2020 #24
Paladin May 2020 #25
TEB May 2020 #60
Fortinbras Armstrong May 2020 #27
TEB May 2020 #28
roscoeroscoe May 2020 #39
usaf-vet May 2020 #46
ronatchig May 2020 #29
3Hotdogs May 2020 #30
roscoeroscoe May 2020 #40
malaise May 2020 #34
WinstonSmith4740 May 2020 #35
panader0 May 2020 #36
TEB May 2020 #38
keithbvadu2 May 2020 #41
lagomorph777 May 2020 #42
keithbvadu2 May 2020 #45
OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #52
Aristus May 2020 #47
TEB May 2020 #50
TEB May 2020 #53
Aristus May 2020 #55
TEB May 2020 #57
roamer65 May 2020 #48
TEB May 2020 #51
roamer65 May 2020 #58
OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #49
ooky May 2020 #54
dalton99a May 2020 #56
TEB May 2020 #61
HarlanPepper May 2020 #59
Blue Owl May 2020 #68
crickets May 2020 #64
Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #66
BrightKnight May 2020 #67

Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 05:54 AM

1. Yup.

No command and control, no support, no recon. No experience or tactical knowledge and no discipline.

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #1)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:26 AM

7. The Newfie

Was on recon sniffing the cooler

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Response to TEB (Reply #7)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:04 AM

31. Lol

I'd rather have that dog on my side than any of those militia guys

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #1)

Fri May 1, 2020, 10:15 AM

62. They're tough until they come upon a Remington 870 at the door.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #62)

Fri May 1, 2020, 10:18 AM

63. Or a strong woman.

Given a choice, they'll pick the Remington.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:06 AM

2. A mob is different than three inept guys. I've seen mobs before.

All reason leaves them and they act as a collective. These are dangerous people. They are being stoked by very dangerous people some who are war criminals in their own right.

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #2)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:42 AM

14. You said it well.

A mob is different and that's what scares me most.

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #2)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:07 AM

33. I always wondered what would happen is some kid

lit off a pack of firecrackers around these guys.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #33)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:46 AM

43. Wet spots in front of their pants would form...nt

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:06 AM

3. Mall Ninjas

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:09 AM

4. I live in hunting country.

"Hey! Those are all the guys I won't go huntin` with!"

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #4)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:18 AM

5. I live in the sticks as well

And I agree with you

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:25 AM

6. Agree 100%

A bunch of know nothing loosers, that think they are tough

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Response to weissmam (Reply #6)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:50 AM

44. They grew up watching to many John Wayne, Rambo type movies. Yet when they had the chance to.....

.... enlist and go fight in their generation battles where were they. Doing boot camp on a Nintendo.

Yes, I'm sure some did in fact serve in the military many maybe with distinction. But to now threaten others with weapons of war to gain ground in a political dispute is not the way to win or to change minds.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:27 AM

8. K & R

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:32 AM

9. I laughed at this outfit down the street last fall during deer season here in Idaho.

They aren't militia guys as far as I know. I saw three of them loading up to go hunting, all piling into a mid sized car. All of them were decked out head to toe in what I would assume was fairly expensive camo gear.

This is amusing to me because in the limited hunting I did around here when I was younger, the guys would have laughed their asses off if I would have shown up dressed like that! I think the only clothing item I even owned specifically for hunting was a blaze orange hat and a vest for bird hunting. I went a few time literally in my school clothes because we went out right from school.

I'd bet none of these guys have any money and they get them to think they need all that for deer around here. As long as it's not flashing neon, it makes no difference what you wear.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:34 AM

10. I live in Southern Arizona

I rarely see them except border "militia" and wannabes at gun shows. Most of us are used to open carry, but the camo is annoying. One thing I always wondered about, is their assumptions that "libs" are unarmed chickenshits. Just because we do not see a need to holster up a leg does not mean we are not carrying concealed. My father, uncle and several family members were and are law enforcement. I learned to shoot at 7yrs old, and have worked in law enforcement as administrative support. I held my own on the range with them when they took me along as they practiced for qualifications. I doubt camo crew could do so.

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Response to Sierra89 (Reply #10)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:43 AM

15. I carry but it's concealed carry and I wear normal clothes.

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Response to Sierra89 (Reply #10)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:06 AM

32. I'm outside of Las Vegas

BIG hunting community. Solid red. (In fact, at the caucus, I was surprised we had that many Democrats!) The gun department in our Ace Hardware is the equivalent of a local bar...it's where folks gather. I've never seen anyone up here open carry. In fact, the only time I've even seen the guns racks full is during hunting season. Down in Vegas...not uncommon to see some doofus open carrying. Including my nephew.

But this jumped out at me in your post, and I think it may be one of the reasons.
I learned to shoot at 7yrs old

The same holds here...these kids are out target shooting as children. They get their own "child size" rifle. They're taught everything about guns, including how dangerous they can be when used wrong, and most importantly, to respect that danger. They're never, at any time, ever allowed to consider a gun as a toy. I've been out here 21 years, and there has never been a child killing someone because they found dad's gun and didn't know what it could do. And when they're old enough, they go hunting with Dad and, very often, Mom.

"Camo crews" (we need to get that started in describing these wannabe's) are too gutless to actually join the military or police departments...and they're probably too dumb to qualify. I mean, they're not going to put themselves in a situation where someone could actually shoot back. They'll undoubtedly take out an innocent bystander at a convenience store someday trying to stop that guy boosting the store.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:35 AM

11. If there's anything the past 2-3 decades of mass shootings have told us...

...you donít have to be a military sharpshooter to create a lot of death and havoc with a gun.

If Iím a legislator or a staff member and I see some bozo walking around the Capitol with a gun, I would be rightfully freaking out.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:38 AM

12. I understand the desire for some to protest a shutdown. Why do you need to be armed to do it??

It just makes you look stupid

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #12)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:48 AM

17. It makes them feel like a "manly man" . They want to arm themselves

when they go to starbucks , mcdonalds, walmart , church, etc etc

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:35 AM

26. Not to mention, "open carry" is for suckers.

The FIRST thing someone will do if they want to attack you is GRAB THE GUN EVERYONE CAN SEE.

But yes, it goes towards making you look like a "tough guy"; which to them is more important than actually being prepared to defend yourself

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #12)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:03 PM

65. To show nobody ain't takin away their right to get a haircut.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:42 AM

13. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience, TEB

Much appreciated, as always!

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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #13)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:46 AM

16. Absolutely I find them amusing

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:49 AM

18. They should be treated the same as any similarly armed Walmart shopper.

This needs to be stopped.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:11 AM

19. hey, don't disparage girl scouts

They are a lot tougher than you think. They do everything boy scouts do, but with sashes.

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Response to mercuryblues (Reply #19)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:14 AM

20. Not at all

Our three daughters served in Girl Scouts total respect here

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Response to TEB (Reply #20)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:16 AM

37. I was being flippant

MY GS is now a Major in the US Army. Not a one of those men you describe could outshoot her, beat her in hand to hand combat or beat her in a 1 mile race. The only reason I say 1 mile is because they couldn't finish a 10 mile race with a 40+ LB. rucksack. Any actual soldier that I have met would never wear their cammo outside of work. Well, sometimes they do. Like when they're grabbing a bite to eat or grocery shopping on their way home.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:22 AM

21. That lot of losers, maybe.

In my neck of the woods, theyíre all ex-military or ex-cop. They arenít inept or poor on gear and bullets.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:25 AM

22. Cool - glad to know we don't have to fear AR-15s and 20 round mags anymore.

I will confess to owning camo for turkey and bow hunting, and a pair of BDU pants for trips to the range....love the pockets.

On edit: of course I am NOT part of a private militia! That's just goofy.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:30 AM

23. So you're saying that they aren't exactly a "well-regulated militia,"

just overgrown kids playing Army. Just what I've observed. The woods in northern Michigan are full of them. And there's usually a 6-pack in the cooler that Mrs. Militia packs for them. Just hit the deck until their clips run out and we'll be fine. Oh, and they seem to forget that not all of us "libs" are pacifists. They'd get a big surprise if they came after me. My daddy taught me to shoot when I was 8. And I don't drink so my aim is better. And I've always remembered my dad's (who was a cop for 30 years & a Marine Raider) #1 lesson to me: "Don't be afraid to hurt someone who's trying to hurt you." He was afraid that girls were conditioned by society to be too meek and he wasn't going to let that happen to his little girl.

They really are a most pathetic lot. Have a good day and stay safe, my friend.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #23)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:32 AM

24. You as well friend

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:35 AM

25. All due respect, but: You've posted the Least Comforting Comments Of The Day. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #25)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:53 AM

60. Friend in no way was I trying to be alarming

These clowns would melt away at first moments of receiving controlled violence from a infantry element

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:35 AM

27. I spent a tour in Vietnam doing LRRPs (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrols)

We lurps didn't go in for "spray and pray" firing, basically because we had to make our ammunition last at least a week, and it might be even two. I was given a team to command because I was a Ranger qualified lieutenant.

Anyway, I agree with you. The militia types I've seen are playing soldier. I was speaking with one once, and he told me that they were training to "defend the homeland" and he considered himself to be a solid infantry commander. So I asked him what METT-T and SALUTE meant. He didn't know.

I realize that there might be one or two of you who have forgotten or possibly never learnt those acronyms. METT-T is used in planning an infantry patrol. You must consider the Mission, Enemy, Terrain, Troops & Time Available. SALUTE is what you report when coming in contact with the enemy: Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, and Equipment. These two are essential things for any infantry patrol leader to know.

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Response to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #27)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:36 AM

28. I sir

Tip my hat to you and youíre brothers

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Response to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #27)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:29 AM

39. Serious experience there, Fortinbras

Rosco Armstrong here, 26 years Army 4 overseas tours. 39/40 with M4 or M16. Never owned my own weapon, don't wear camo, they're all in duffle bags down in the basement. I have my duffels and one of my dad's from Viet Nam.

I'm embarrassed by these patriot avenger types to no end. I'm not sure which is worse, those who have served and act like this or those who have never served. Both are... sad but dangerous. As has been said, individually they are idiots but together they can be a mob.

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Response to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #27)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:00 AM

46. I salute your service. You are the second LRRPs member I know. My friend initials L.S. is doing...

....well in his senior years. My guess is he feels the same as you do regarding the "militia types".

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:37 AM

29. I have a ? about the gun nuts in Michigan

Did they have ammo on their person in the legislature?
If so is it not illegal to have a firearm and ammo at hand in public sans a hunting lic.
The reason I ask is that I had a good friend in Mi. who faced felony charges for having a pistol in his car seat with a loaded clip in the console.
He managed to get it reduced to a mistamener and was fined for it. This was about 35 years back.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:53 AM

30. ---kids playing soldier. I was a cadet in the Civilian Air Patrol. 1957 -59.

Before I begin, C.A.P. is a great organization. When I was teaching in Jersey City, there was/probably still is a flight in our school.

So anyways, I was 15 and we were having an invasion drill. Now, this was the time that John Birch Society was flogging that there were commies in every community. "I Led Three Lives" was a popular book, later made into a tv show. The shit Herbert A. Philbrick did on tv was little related to real live, but the show was fun.

In my town, a schoolmate's father was arrested as a commie spy, along with a couple of other people in the Newark, N.J. area. In other words, the shit was real.

So back to the invasion drill. We met at the school around sundown and were driven to several important sites to practice protecting them when the Ruskies invaded. My site was the local water pumping plant. This was before Abbie Hoffman announced his plan to put free LSD in the Chicago water system supply.

Around 6:00 my fellow cadet and I were dropped off at the pumping station with nothing but a flashlight. The station operator - guard or whatever he was asked what we were doing. Our explanation of our duty was met with the equivalent of a "Whatever."

About an hour later, we were picked up and taken back to base. Our mission was a success. The water pumping station was secure. In fact, it is still secure to this day.

It wasn't until 9/11 that this episode in my young life flashed back. The pumping station is now fenced in. Audubon people with binoculars and sneakers used to be allowed onto the property. Now, even they are considered a security threat and are not allowed onto the water company property.

So, after 9/11, I was left to wonder, what was a 95 pound kid, in U.S.A.F. fatigues and a flashlight gonna do to protect Springfield, N.J.'s water supplies from the damn commies?

Then, I remember. The answer came in the movie, "Wolverines."

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #30)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:31 AM

40. Civil Air Patrol is cool

Wish I could have joined. The chapter in Frederick MD is really high speed.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:09 AM

34. I love this post

Rec

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:12 AM

35. I love Newfies!

One of the best dogs I've ever had was a Newfie/German Shepherd mix. She had the nurturing instincts of the Newfie and protective instincts of the German Shepherd. She always came with me when I baby sat for neighbors, and I really think she was the reason I was #1 on everyone's list to call. Have any pictures?

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:14 AM

36. "Mrs militia packed them sandwiches"

Good stuff again TEB.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #36)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:28 AM

38. How is the son

Heís a stud special forces I love him

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:43 AM

41. What they see in the mirror

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 08:45 AM

42. They need one more flag: Putin/Trump 2020

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:00 AM

45. Militia training

This is the bunch that Cruz (Parkland school shooter) was slightly acquainted with.

Their choice of cover music is quite telling.


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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #45)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:23 AM

52. LOL....is this really a serious recruitment video?

If this is the typical training exercise, there is not much to fear in these clown-soldiers....most would probably croak if they had to follow real military training.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:04 AM

47. Personally, I'm glad most of the militia dicks are built like hypertensive sumo wrestlers.

They make a nice, big, fat target in the reticle of a tank gunnery system. For all their military surplus gear and juvenile "Roger, Alpha Base!" pseudo tough-talk, they won't stand up to real military firepower.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #47)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:20 AM

50. A few burst

From ma deuce they will go home

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Response to Aristus (Reply #47)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:23 AM

53. These turds be xtra crunchies

sorry I respect the armor broís I just have sense humor

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Response to TEB (Reply #53)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:32 AM

55. Don't forget the co-ax gun.

It's a lot easier to aim and fire while buttoned-up than the Ma Deuce. Plus: higher rate of fire. Watch 'em scatter!...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #55)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:35 AM

57. True

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:12 AM

48. I emailed our governor to call in our NG.

Gov Whitmer has the full power to do so and these freaks should start seeing black helicopters and military detention.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #48)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:21 AM

51. I love governor Whitmer like my gov mr wolf

They donít do stupid

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Response to TEB (Reply #51)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:38 AM

58. She will be smart about it, TEB.

Sheís a pretty sharp cookie. I was so proud of voting for her I took a picture of my ballot. First time we had all women for Governor, Attorney General and Secretary of State.

Sheís cutting a bit of slack right now, but the hammer is coming.

One of these scumbuckets will do something stupid.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:15 AM

49. These anti-socialist rallies reflect the mindset of people who live on hate.

They hate diversity, education, democracy, and people in general.

Has any great society risen when the populations are predominately libertarian and anti-social? I can't think of any.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:29 AM

54. The only difference between them and Barney Fife is Barney

only got to have one bullet.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:34 AM

56. They're stupid white trash with dick issues



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #56)

Fri May 1, 2020, 10:10 AM

61. Mushroom dicks exactly

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:46 AM

59. So it is basically Ted Nugent cosplay.

 

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #59)

Fri May 1, 2020, 09:51 PM

68. Ted Nugent's Turd Pageant

n/t

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 10:27 AM

64. K&R for the post and the discussion.

Good info, great stories.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 06:06 PM

66. Most of them look like BIG targets too.

Itís clear that they didnít go through boot camp recently (if ever).

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 07:50 PM

67. I don't worry about the ones playing dress up. One real nut

and people could get hurt. Iím guessing that it would politically backfire if something did happen. Trump has made it very clear that he is behind it.

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