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Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:00 AM Sep 2012

Please keep Anchorage and Southcentral Alaska in your thoughts over the next couple of days.

For the second time in two weeks we are facing hurricane force winds. The last storm, September 4-5, did millions of dollars worth of damage and left some homes without power for five days. The one forecast for this weekend will be the same, but with rain.

http://www.adn.com/2012/09/14/2625023/weekend-winds-up-to-110-mph-possible.html


The National Weather Service says wind gusts as high as 110 miles per hour could hit the higher elevations in Anchorage this weekend and has added flood warnings for communities on Turnagain Arm and Prince William Sound.

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Winds are predicted to increase throughout Saturday, reaching between 35 and 50 miles per hour for most of Anchorage by Saturday night, with possible gusts of 65 miles per hour.

Gusts in Upper Hillside and along Turnagain Arm from Potter Marsh to Bird Creek may reach 110 miles per hour and 85 miles per hour in Girdwood and Portage.

Conditions will persist through Sunday, with southeast winds from 65 to 80 miles an hour on the Hillside and gusts continuing to clock 110 miles per hour. Hillside winds will decrease to between 45 and 60 miles an hour, forecasters say, but not until after midnight.

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In addition, some communities may get up to 9 inches of rain with the possibility of flooding. These kinds of storms this early in the season are very unusual. We often get winds in the winter, but after the trees have dropped their leaves, are frozen in and are more stable. Hundreds of trees have been downed already.

Anyway, the Lower 48 doesn't usually hear about our weather, but we could use your positive vibes.
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Please keep Anchorage and Southcentral Alaska in your thoughts over the next couple of days. (Original Post) Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 OP
Hope the damage is minimal from this new storm cali Sep 2012 #1
How much of this is due to climate change? Downwinder Sep 2012 #2
all of it :( roguevalley Sep 2012 #17
I think it's all due to climate change. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #19
Stay safe, friend Iris Sep 2012 #3
Stay safe, Blue! Solly Mack Sep 2012 #4
Please stay safe malaise Sep 2012 #5
Good luck...I have to ask...are these winds fairly common? joeybee12 Sep 2012 #6
in winter roguevalley Sep 2012 #16
Hardly ever this early in the season. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #20
Are these winds the "Williwaws" I keep reading about re Alaska? DinahMoeHum Sep 2012 #7
Williwaws are winds that blow down over mountains to the sea. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #21
Great almanac, thanks. DinahMoeHum Sep 2012 #32
Prayers and peace vibes sending your way nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #8
You got it. I didn't know there were hurricanes up there. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #9
wow! blueknight Sep 2012 #10
stay safe! barbtries Sep 2012 #11
yes roguevalley Sep 2012 #15
wow, that's some amazing windspeeds onethatcares Sep 2012 #12
They got hit pretty hard last time. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #22
My kid lives in Eagle River A-Long-Little-Doggie Sep 2012 #30
Oh, yeah, our snow last year was epic. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #31
Holy cow!! I had no idea! blaze Sep 2012 #13
blue. take care. anch got reslly pounded last time :( roguevalley Sep 2012 #14
Did you get much wind down there? Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #23
we did but not as much as you. The trees were roguevalley Sep 2012 #33
Is it me, or are these storms happening more often? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #18
These kinds of storms are pretty much unprecedented this early in the season. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #24
Thanks, good to know it was not my imagination nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #25
good luck oldhippydude Sep 2012 #26
Yeah, you know, we don't even think about her anymore Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #27
derecho? grasswire Sep 2012 #28
I'm assuming rotational like the last one, Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #29

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
19. I think it's all due to climate change.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:29 PM
Sep 2012

There was a national article in this morning's paper re the shrinking arctic ice pack and it's effect on the jet stream and so on. It explains colder winters in Europe and snowier ones in Alaska. Last winter we had more snow here in Anchorage than ever ... 11 feet which is almost twice as much as our normal. There was also an unusual early season "hurricane" in NW Alaska last November.

This winter should be "interesting" to say the least.



Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
21. Williwaws are winds that blow down over mountains to the sea.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:26 PM - Edit history (2)

What we usually get here are called "chinooks," warm winds from the southeast that occur in winter. Sometimes it will be well below zero and within a matter of hours warm up to mid or high 40s. Winds in the winter aren't as dangerous because the ground is frozen, there are no leaves to catch the wind and the snow is deep. Now the ground is soggy, and since our trees have shallow roots because of the permafrost, they topple right over with these kinds of storms.

This little article explains our three main kinds of wind here.

http://books.google.com/books?id=g_0sbbGO69gC&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=williwaw+chinook&source=bl&ots=1cJYFpSSia&sig=lNeee9ONloPTO9CfcRwfmxG5DHs&hl=en#v=onepage&q=williwaw%20chinook&f=false

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
11. stay safe!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:28 AM
Sep 2012

what do they call a storm with hurricane force winds when it happens in AK? is it a typhoon?

onethatcares

(16,178 posts)
12. wow, that's some amazing windspeeds
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:06 AM
Sep 2012

strap in, hold on and good luck.


what's happening further up the road in Eagle River?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
22. They got hit pretty hard last time.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

They're probably battening down the hatches as we speak. It's the calm before the storm right now.

A-Long-Little-Doggie

(1,011 posts)
30. My kid lives in Eagle River
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

when he is not in the sandbox, like he is now. I went out to see him last November before he was deployed and I couldn't believe how much snow was already on the ground.

Good luck to all of you up there in AK.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
31. Oh, yeah, our snow last year was epic.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:48 PM
Sep 2012

What was really unusual (besides the sheer amount of the stuff) was that there were only three individual storms that produced more than 7 inches at a time. Instead, it just snowed ALL THE TIME, it seemed like every day. It usually doesn't happen that way here.

Thank your son for his service. I hope he returns back to Eagle River safe and sound.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
33. we did but not as much as you. The trees were
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:35 PM
Sep 2012

really scary looking but they stayed up. I had one cut down that was dead that would have probably gone through my window. Take care, honey.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
24. These kinds of storms are pretty much unprecedented this early in the season.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

And, as I mentioned above, we had record snowfall last winter and an unusually cool summer.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
26. good luck
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:51 PM
Sep 2012

was going to make some wise crack about Palin... but realize that wouldn't help... just good luck instead

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
29. I'm assuming rotational like the last one,
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

and judging from the direction. The marine forecast is predicting 975 mb.



Ed. Thanks for teaching me a new word.

Here's a nice map.



Luckily we live in west Anchorage at the mouth of Knik Arm where our gusts will "only" be 60 mph. Totally and ominously still here right at the moment.

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