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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Romney loses, heads will explode...
Many of them will be on right-wing radio and conservative television. Despair and depression will spread like a contagion amongst the Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity listeners. For four years, they have invested all the hate and vitriol they could muster to defeat Barack Obama. If they were to fail, and it appears as if they will, they will need a master shrink to help them put their heads back together.
But, it would be good for America. The defeat of Romney would be the defeat of Limbaugh and Hannity and the propagandists that have attempted to tear down our country and to rebuild it in their own greedy interest. It would be a time for introspection by the Republican Party. They have put all their chips on the table and, if they lose, will need to find a cab ride home.
There will be an intra-Party struggle of historic proportions. Did they lose because Romney was not a conservative? Or did they lose because their Party went too far to the right? It will be more difficult for them to repair the damage to their Party because so many of them reject the idea of compromise in any form.
Obama has not won this election, by any stretch of the imagination. But if he does, it is going to be a lot of fun watching these hateful, racist, bigoted loudmouths fight amongst themselves. It will be better than pay-per-view.
2on2u
(1,843 posts)still_one
(92,325 posts)their right to vote because of the voter suppression laws they have been setting up in the swing states which are a violation of the voting act of 1965
kracer20
(199 posts)Every time I read about how someone thinks Obama has it in the bag, I get nervous. I'm new here, but there should be a DU disclaimer that says you are not allowed to say Obama is going to win without stressing that everyone needs to go to the voting booth.
Don't stay home thinking that since Obama has a lead that he will be magically get elected. It is up to you and me.
cindyperry2010
(846 posts)WIN BUT yes get out and vote do not be complacent
go west young man
(4,856 posts)Get out and early vote. Republicans are gonna do everything they can to make it difficult come Super Tuesday. Early voting is the key to avoiding that debacle.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Should get them in the next few weeks...
We vote together, talk about our choices and discuss stuff by looking at the Plain Dealer and the League of Women Voters web sites.
I think it is the best way to not accidentally vote for someone.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)we need the senate and house to get things back to center, never mind to left of center.
That is the only way to undo the damage of W's 8 year reign of terror.
(Edited because I originally put 12 year reign. Accidental reference to the aftermath of his 8 years? Maybe...:shrug
eggplant
(3,912 posts)Astazia
(262 posts)PLEASE EVERYONE V O T E !!!
(early in person voting better than absentee)
Taz(wink)
Mad_Dem_X
(9,565 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)And welcome to DU. Keep spreading the word. GOTV!!
renate
(13,776 posts)And I couldn't agree with you more!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)calimary
(81,415 posts)We don't have this thing won yet.
It's looking good but this is mid-SEPTEMBER. We have to get through the first week of November. As they say... a lot can happen in just seven weeks or so. We DARE NOT take these polls too much to heart. When the enemy becomes desperate (as many suspect might be starting to happen now), God in Heaven only knows what they might try.
And we CANNOT be asleep at the switch. All hands on deck. Nobody takes any days off for the foreseeable future! We're at DefCon 5. And Red Alert. Ironic, but also literal.
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2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)and it will be spot on.
kentuck
(111,107 posts)that you should never count your chickens before they hatch, although it does look good for the president at this moment in time.
no_hypocrisy
(46,151 posts)final results close to 50/50.
siligut
(12,272 posts)spanone
(135,857 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)media will just crank up the volume. They aren't going away IMO.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)You now have a party that can't produce any good leadership because their ideology is one of ignorance and corruption. Therefore, the Right might not be the threat you anticipate this time. There's no way for them to be socially cohesive, and they've dumbed themselves down too much.
They've been saying for four years that Obama is the worst kind of tyrant. The leadership can beat that drum if there's some goal to it, despite the fact that the Storm Troopers have not shown up at anybody's door. But when that goal disappears, and the Storm Troopers still aren't making people disappear, that drains the emotional energy away. It gives people an opportunity to realize they're not as afraid of Obama as they thought. Once the fear isn't distorting their lens then there's a chance of re-examination.
When billionaires have dump hundreds of millions of dollars into defeating Obama and it doesn't happen, well, that's going to, at least, lead to some re-evaluation of their strategy, too. Not that they'll ever come around.
Really, what's driving the Right is fear. Sooner or later, if the Storm Troopers never show up, they'll stop responding to fear, and they'll stop coming up with boogie men with which to scare other people.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)re-evaluation of their strategy, too. Not that they'll ever come around." For many it will fester underground (I think).
But a good thing, it might reduce their numbers and influence, particularly generational changes.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)For the most part, I think conservatism will fall into same kind of paralysis, stagnation and self-doubt that liberalism did when Reagan won. As this current passes, so will it. Already we have the most liberal generation since the 60s coming age.
There are a lot of hopeful signs now that I haven't seen for thirty years.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts)The low for me was Dubya. But if you told me in 1980 that Reagan was a mistake that we couldn't correct for more than thirty years, I would've thought you were crazy.
Yet, the omens were there. I remember before he made his victory speech, someone brought a sheet-cake out shaped like the lower 48 states. The guy presenting it, "We just want to show you what this country looks like today." I swear, right then, the cake almost slipped off the sheet and plopped on the floor. The aide barely got control of it before it created a huge mess.
Yes, that's what our country looked like all right, teetering on the edge of total disaster.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts)It seems to have been dropped in the memory hole, though every network was covering it, and I swear, that's exactly what I saw, and I remember telling a girl at school about it.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)i went to bed thinking, that's it, he's toast. senile, off into the sunset, good luck old man. time to retire.
woke up the next morning, the papers were saying he won the debate?! un-f'ing believeable. oh, and by the way, cutting a deal behind the scenes to mess up the hostage negotiations. treason, anyone?
the election of reagan was a black-armband day.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)however we may loose a federal building or two during their retreat
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)road before.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)They use fear, hate and rage to control the masses.
Fear, hate & rage, particularly in combination, are quite impervious to penetration by rational thought or evidence. For the true Hard Core, the churning emotions will churn on, with Rush, Hannity et al. doing the churning just as before. However, their viewership/listenership might drop off a bit among the NTL* crowd.
*Not Totally Loony
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)That is, having to give up something they "own" and to have to take less. No matter how unjustified that is, it's a possibility and their fear is real. Add to that, they have irrational fear that the 99 percent actually hate them and will kill them. Given the communist revolutions in the 20th century, there's at least some justification for that fear.
Also, many of them have been influenced by their own propaganda. The Koch Brothers, for example, really do believe Ayn Rand. Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann are true believers even though they're obviously greedy, because they immersed themselves in Reaganism. Those are Reagan's political children. And, sheesh, they even absorbed his Alzheimer's vacuity, even though a healthy person shouldn't be that ignorant.
lastlib
(23,266 posts)--Schiller
calimary
(81,415 posts)Madame Ebay outspent Jerry Brown for CA governor by a factor of I think 12-to-1. The results were: congratulations Governor Brown!
So nobody with the big bucks learned anything from that lesson. I imagine since their behavioral pattern defaults on willful, even proud, ignorance, chronic denial, and a tendency to deflect blame onto the opponent and not accept responsibility for what they enable, they might default on all those things yet again. As in "we weren't _______ enough!" I bet a huge cross-section of them will be led by the "not CONservative enough" because they simply won't get that America is NOT as hysterically reactionary as they are. They WON'T get that. They WON'T take delivery on that. Anymore than any of them now will take delivery on the idea that you can't balance any kind of budget if you refuse to raise taxes while also refusing to cut what's popular while also refusing to put the Pentagon on a diet. Who wants to take delivery on the idea that what you believe in is not popular? Or is racist? Or is utterly stupid and not based on fact? WHILE at the same time you're being constantly media-massaged and propagandized that you're okay and that shit ideology of yours is just magic-underwear wonderful and freedomy-freedomy and free markety-free markety.
I'm guessing most of them are still thinking THIS time it'll work. And they're not ready to give up just yet. They'll go down fighting.
We are NOT dealing with a mass of people who are grown-up enough to concede, willingly, that they were wrong and their ideas and world view all SUCK. Most of them will go to their graves firmly convicted they were "right." Souls CAN be saved. And there's no reason not to try. But not every soul is salvageable.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)and he was an (m)adman, there are some products that no amount of advertising can sell. Whitman was one of those. Romney looks to be one of those. However, not every Repub sprouting the conservative ideology is one of those. In fact, a good war chest will tend to win elections. Tendency is not a guarantee.
JustAnotherGen
(31,849 posts)I would lose.
They ARE going to think - We weren't Conservative enough. When they lose . . .
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)If a Democrat manages to win in 2016, too, especially if it's someone like Liz Warren, then I'm real afraid of the possibility of all hell breaking loose.....and we may already have a mess on our hands with an Obama victory.....
Cosmocat
(14,567 posts)it is funny.
I KNOW what they are, I lived through the 90s and hated what they did to Clinton.
Part of why I supported BO was that I thought that they would juts go bananas with Hillary as president, and BO was such a cool and reasonable guy, it would not be quite as bad for him as it would be with her.
Somehow, it has been worse in a different way.
They know nothing other than raging hatred of the evil liberal boogeyman, and it goes to a WHOLE nother level if they don't have an R in the White House.
The democrats HAVE to keep the senate, just have to ...
The Rs keep the House and get the Senate, and it is going to be VERY, VERY bad.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)As they were Clinton, simply because they didn't get the White House. Under Clinton, though, there was Waco and Ruby Ridge. No matter what side you come out on about those incidents, they did add to the fear.
Nothing like that has happened under Obama. In fact, as much the Occupy Wall Street movement is being criticized recently, they did reduce the fear by mostly not being violent even when violence was done to them. Remember Glen Beck's warning about them? Put egg on his face. It showed that Left was peaceful. The riots and bombings of the '60s didn't reoccur. I think it reduced a lot of the tension. Of course, they haven't won anything yet.
Obama let people march on Washington Armed. With Obama, there's been a lot of agitation against him, a lot of lies, but really, sooner or later, if there are no incidents, people are going to stop crying wolf.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Not Clinton
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)It's just that they never noticed Bush was there. To them, he was inoffensive. A bit like what Romney is supposed to be.
nebenaube
(3,496 posts)I for one hope that CentCom is ready.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)the study.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)centcom is in the middle east, with arcent headquarters in kuwait
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Of course the idiots on the right will blame everyone and everything but themselves, but who cares?
November 7th, 2012 will be a day to remember.
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)sarge43
(28,942 posts)They're incapable of accepting responsibility. Introspection is beyond them.
This won't be over until the evening of 6 Nov. No time to relax We have a congress to take back from the dark side, too. GOTV.
Risen Demon
(199 posts)support a party that proclaims that value.
"I'm poor cuz dem negros and mex-E-cans are usin all mah tax money cuz thar too lazy tah werk"
sarge43
(28,942 posts)They work in bull shit like Michelangelo worked in marble.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)for the loss. Plus, the fact that Romney was not a true conservative.
DontTreadOnMe
(2,442 posts)Sounds like a new business opportunity to me.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)and lost.
kentuck
(111,107 posts)the difference being that they have had four years of intense hatred building up with nowhere to go except to explode, unlike in 2008.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)even have yard signs or bumper stickers. The state is targeted to go 99.7% for Romney/Ryan. And they really wanted Santorum (ugh!). If you tune the FM radio, for example, and god forbid the AM radio, just about everything is anti-Obama, well, that in between the god stations. I'm getting outta here, but have to endure it for awhile longer. Some places are so far over the edge I don't have enough years left to try to pull them back.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)I'd buy a TV to watch those heads explode.
I'd love to see the Republicans finally pay a price for giving racists, misogynists and bigots power in order to use them to steal everything they could. Of course, I'd also like to see them pay a price for that and the millions they kill to steal it.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)They do not accept defeat gracefully or introspectively. They lash out. They incite hatred. It is not a pretty sight.
Should they retain control of the House, what will they do? Continue to obstruct? Probably, because elected Republicans only care about positioning themselves and their Party for success in the next election. If they cooperate with Obama, that does not accomplish their goal for 2016 when they will most likely nominate Jeb.
Bottom line, they care nothing about the people of this country. Until the voters wake up to this fact and kick them out of office, not much progress can be made on any issue.
Freddie
(9,272 posts)Yes. Extremely sore losers will continue their disrespectful hissy fits for 4 more years.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)still think they're voting for Eisenhower type republicans when they vote. They just don't seem to comprehend that party is long gone.
The new GOP is not about the country at all, other than how they can bring down the US and turn it into a profit only machine for their benefit at the top. What many of their delusional followers don't get is they are going to be sh** on too by the new republican party.
kentuck
(111,107 posts)It could only help the President.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)republican incumbents. Not even moderate republicans. The democrats and moderate republicans are gone. They kicked the moderate republicans out in the recent primary. It's now the Koch Brothers all the way.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Assuming that the President wins, the House and the Senate in the hands of Democrats is the only way this nation can progress.
If Romney were to win and Republicans were to control Congress, we would have 4 years of worse the George W. Bush. We might never recover.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)A right wing conspiracy theorist nut won the Democratic Primary and is running against Bob Corker for the Senate. Yes, you read that right.
Not much I can do here.
That is how bad it has gotten in Tennessee.
maxrandb
(15,345 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:31 PM - Edit history (1)
Those particular people are soooooo full of hate, they'll double-down and claim that the election was stolen, or that the people that didn't vote the way they "should" are "stupid", and if only the media had shown Obama in that picture where he's burning an American Flag while having gay sex with his college roomate while Yasar Arafat looks on burning the Torah in one hand while pissing on a Bible...well. then their guy would have one.
Don't ever underestimate the hate in these folks. Like Doc Holiday said about Johnny Ringo; "a man like Ringo's got a big giant hole right through the middle of him...and no matter how much he steals, cheats and kills, he can just never fill it up". "He's driven by revenge"....."revenge for being born".
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It's a reckoning.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)They will just have to deal with the fact that they lost NOT because they were not conservative ENOUGH, but because they were TOO conservative by half for the majority of people in this country who are not abjectly stupid, hateful, or filthy rich.
The weeping and the gnashing of teeth WILL be fun to watch, I'll grant you, but let's not be be too careful. If they end up with either Chamber of Congress, the Administration and the other Chamber REALLY needs to start stomping political mudholes in people. No more Mr. Nice Guy, no more "I'll respect your position and seek a middle ground or a compromise." Against the better judgement of some here, that was tried, and it failed to bring the Minority Party back to the table as a rational co-governing partner. So Fuck em. BREAK them. It's the only way they will learn.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)what they are, that is what they will be. That hatred is not going away. It's naive to even think it is.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)They thought. Then they just decided that they needed to veer harder right...and they did! When (and make no mistake, it will be when) Romney loses, there will be a scuffle. Hannity and Limbaugh will not lose, they will win. The Republicans will go even further off the cliff.
However, this is good for us. They will marginalize themselves even more, and they will continue to elect crazy candidates, and they will continue to lose.
BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)that is all now, I must rest my beautiful mind.
BumRushDaShow
(129,304 posts)when Shrub was in office for 8 years and rethugs controlled Congress for much of that time, they were struggling mightily to find a Democratic boogie-person to rail against and generally had to settle on Nancy Pelosi or the Clintons. With Obama, the environment will be ripe for generating fresh vomit-spewing material to feed their vitriolic audience.
Who WILL have exploded heads are their zombie listeners.
The only way to get rid of RW hate radio is to hit them in the pocketbook. In their case, elections don't matter.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They will double down...saying "Look what nominating moderates has gotten us. McCain and Romney, two losers."
Same thing progressives would say.
Gman
(24,780 posts)I fully expected, as sure as the sun comes up in the morning, the RW would seriously try and possibly succeed in assassinating Clinton. the phrase I used was "take him out". As it turns out they did try to take Clinton out, but it was via a bogus impeachment.
If Obama wins, I know in my heart of hearts in won't be a messy little impeachment. They will make an assault of some kind to kill Obama in a whatever it takes fashion. If one fails, the next one will try until they succeed. I think the most likely scenario would be an attempt on an overseas trip by Obama. Maybe where Muslims can be blamed.
These people are rabid dogs. I think they will stop at nothing. It will be as if the civil war the RW wants so badly has finally started. And for the sake of all of us nd the country, I hope and pray I'm delusional and couldn't be more wrong.
But I'm afraid it will be immensely worse than exploding heads.
peace frog
(5,609 posts)however I think the tide has finally turned against them. Even the so-called low information citizens have come to realize that the RW have gone completely batshit crazy; evidence of it is everywhere and it's now widely recognized as true. I predict the overwhelming majority of Americans would not be bamboozled by trumped-up impeachment attempts against the president. THEY HAVE NOTHING, and we all know it. It won't work this time.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Sadly, though, that is exactly what we may be facing, is significant amounts of militia violence. What really worries me is the possibility that they may go to extremes if a Democrat wins in 2016, too, especially if it's someone like Liz Warren.
peace frog
(5,609 posts)because she will be a senator from the great state of Massachusetts.
The RW will maintain plausible deniability by allowing their fringe elements to "go to extremes" while disavowing any prior knowledge of their actions. Same as it ever was, and we soldier on.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I was just throwing her name out as an example, though.
Anyhow, I can't at all disagree with what you've said. It's a game that they've played over, and over again.
Freddie
(9,272 posts)That's why Mittens put Ryan on the ticket, so the party can't say he lost because he's not really a conservative.
So what will they say? Looking forward to the "weeping and gnashing of teeth." one thing they *won't* do is realize that the country is not as far right as the party has gone. The only way the Repugs can survive is to become more moderate. But they can't do that with the nutjobs that have infested the party.
The Wizard
(12,546 posts)I heard him say it. Then again, he said a lot of things that changed a minute later. He's just a bullshit artist, huckster, shyster and Rommunist.
Baitball Blogger
(46,753 posts)There's still one more step to clear, before we can return to a fair society.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)They tend to thrive ratings-wise when the POTUS is a Democrat.
Their whole shtick sort of depends on it.
kentuck
(111,107 posts)With a Democrat in office?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Can you link me to the numbers?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)1) they lost because the mythical liberal media was against them
2) they lost because Romney wasn't a true conservative.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Probably go with #1 for Romney's loss.
CanonRay
(14,111 posts)I no longer believe they are capable of introspection. They've been in denial and in an alternate reality for so long, there is nothing left. What I do expect is anger. Lots of it, and violence to go with it. And throw in some blame for good measure...the libruhl media, illegals voting, what have you, anything blamed but their own idiotic selves. Introspection? No, I don't think so.
NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)and just pretend Romney never happened... but their voting base will shrink somewhat more
The Wizard
(12,546 posts)Berlin Expat
(950 posts)with you observation, with the caveat that a small minority might turn to outright political violence.
I think we can look forward to an increase in talk about a new secession movement, especially in the Deep South amongst other nonsense.
Most likely, yes, there will be a GOP civil war between the moderate pragmatists and the fanatics in the base, who will insist that the reason for (an assumed) loss was that they simply weren't "conservative enough"; that's their default position for losing elections, supplemented by BS such as "vote fraud", etc.
I think they'll be in despair, provided President Obama is indeed re-elected, for several weeks, perhaps a couple of months, then the GOP civil war will intensify, and the hard right will either completely succeed in taking over the GOP, or go on their own way to start a third-party movement. That I can't forecast as to when and how it will happen, but it would seem to be a logical outcome of a Romney defeat.
kentuck
(111,107 posts)They will not be able to come together.
begin_within
(21,551 posts)Barry2012
(51 posts)Its gonna be fun.
hue
(4,949 posts)I'm ready for the fireworks!! 4th of July style!!
valerief
(53,235 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Turbineguy
(37,361 posts)I think they will double down. The only way they will "get it" is for Romney to get in, their pensions to be taken by Wall Street, bankrupt them if they get sick, ship their jobs overseas, foreclose on their homes and leave them standing on a freeway offramp with a cardboard sign that says: "Obama did this to me!"
RagAss
(13,832 posts)hay rick
(7,633 posts)dsharp88
(487 posts)and allow their dark side to completely overwhelm any sense of responsibility - even more so than the last 4 years. Hate is like a cancer of the mind that only grows more hate. Limbaugh will be more off the rails than ever before. Hannity is more disciplined and will likely just continue his formula of changing the meaning of words and editing recordings to mischaracterize statements into different things than were said and meant from their actual meaning and context. The weak, mindless sheep will, of course, be more filled with hate and rage than ever before.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)I will love watching the racist/fascist bastards eat each other. They made their own beds not they must lay in it.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)They don't give a shit about our country.
They get paid to spout vile lies and propaganda and being the "oppressed minority" is good for their business.
central scrutinizer
(11,659 posts)spot on!
Don C. Nuttin
(84 posts)Not so much.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)There has been a positive feedback loop that moves the party farther right. When they win, they move right. When they lose, they rationalize that it was because their candidate was "too liberal".
In the near future, candidates like Bachmann and West will seem moderate in comparison to the next generation of crazy.
It is going to get way stupid, and the cult following is going to get very dangerous.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Liberalman777
(35 posts)and the American middle class and poor win! But nothing will make me happier than to see a repeat of the last election night...seeing people at Fox News look so defeated and silent..Brent Hume sober and almost in tears looking like a Basset Hound..and the rest of the room so upset they refused to come in for any close ups! I want to see that again! And for the right reason! That America is still alive and the average person still have a fighting chance!
DinahMoeHum
(21,803 posts)n/t
tabasco
(22,974 posts)ca3799
(71 posts)Be sure to tune in to the Rush show if Obama wins.
Last time Rush was rendered speechless. He would start a sentence, stop mid way, start again, stop again, then bang on his desk and rattle papers around. It was his best show eveh!
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)leeroysphitz
(10,462 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)by unscientific samples.(For Republicans it seems that science only pertains to disproving polls they don't like.)
Anyway, when Romney loses, the new meme will be that there was massive 'Democrat' voter fraud, and that the election was stolen by illegal alien muslims from Mexico. They will point to Republican states where new strict voter laws gave him a victory. It will work like "The Innocence of Muslims" has worked to whip up anger on the right.
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)Two more years of foot-stamping obstruction will certainly occur, and Obama will have to put them out of their misery come the mid-terms. He will have to run as hard then as he is now, and I'm sure he will. It will be Legacy Time, the final nail in their political coffin, at least as it relates to their mindless and hateful opposition to him.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)at least in the media. They thrive on fake outrage.
liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)Hope the make a huge mess.
Sugarcoated
(7,728 posts)I'll never forget the look on Rove and Hume's face just as they called Ohio for Obama. I had to pop over to FAKE news for a few seconds to see their tears . . . bad of me, but I know, but I loooove to see bullies get theres.
I won't rub anyone's face in it, as Repubs would do to me or you, but I will enjoy!
lanlady
(7,135 posts)and spend the next four years obstructing Obama's second-term agenda and preparing the battleground for 2016.
This has become a never-ending cycle.
salinen
(7,288 posts)they love to hate. You cannot take hate away from a hater. They are addicted to it.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)And someone finally has said that about Michelle Malkin. A Republican said it. She needs to get laid.
salinen
(7,288 posts)ANGRY SEX!
gulliver
(13,186 posts)It already has to be nearly intolerable for anyone with half a brain or the slightest character to stick with the Republicans. If Romney loses, con men and anger mongers like Limbaugh and Hannity will go completely haywire.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)They never learn...hence the Tea Party crap.
jillan
(39,451 posts)the truth is that Romney is struggling, as we all know
Why isn't faux being honest to them? They did that in 2008 as well.
Some of these rw wackos are complete lunatics, and rather than get these lunatics all worked up, they should be preparing them.
sandyshoes17
(657 posts)I remember 2008. My BIL is a right winger, about 7:00 pm election night he was talking to my dad. My dad said" it isn't looking good for McCain. He said no turn on fox he's winning. Fox really screws with these people's heads.
But I do think the GOP will change drastically after Obama wins. My sister was sick when he won, than turned on the party and blamed them for putting Palin on the ticket. It will be the same, after they calm down they will be angry at the party for putting up these guys.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)It doesn't matter what happens in reality, they still sell the same product for idiots.
BrainMann1
(460 posts)is that the GOP will have to change their name. I got one "I won and you lost.", Hope we win next time, Mommy I'm sick, GOPPERS.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)Unfortunately I think the trajectory would be for the GOP to move even further to the right. They will claim the reason Robme didn't win was because he wasn't far enough to the right, not that he failed to move back toward the center to attract the "independent" voter.
I listened to a commentator on a Swedish Podcast program note that hard economic times with high unemployment, economic uncertainty, etc. tends to drive the extremes on both ends of the political spectrum - i.e. communists and fascists. In Germany in the 1930's, the fascists won. We are seeing the progression of ultra conservative parties in Europe now. The Tea Party is a manifestation of the same phenomenon in this country.
I hope we don't have to fight another war against fascism - domestically and/or abroad.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)It's that they *can't* accept compromise. That's the problem with believing your platform is a divine mandate; any attempt to compromise is heresy. Which is part of what's going to make it so much fun.
The very first thing they're going to do is burn all the heretics that suggest that they moderate their crazy for the sake of winning elections.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)IMO this will never again be on the table in republican discussions. Republicans will continue to follow this truism that they've convinced themselves of, that if they loose, it was because they weren't conservative enough. They will continue to stampede to the right until they have marginalized themselves completely.
A new party needs to be organized, either by rational people who have washed out of the republican party, or activists to the left of the Democratic party. That way the republican party can go ahead and die the death it deserves, and we can once again have two parties who pursue rational policies, and generally behave like adults.
sandyshoes17
(657 posts)They are not extremist, they are Reagan repubs and put up with the nut jobs, but I see them getting frustrated. They know these people are ruining the party. Something will happen, they will leave the party or throw these people under the bus.
There are alot of average repubs who don't agree with the crazies, they want their party back.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)the do nothing congress for 2 years will have taken a pretty bad hit. Just depends on if there's enough crazy Republicans in the House and Senate running they'll lose.
War on women wasn't exactly coined by men. It was used by men but it was coined by women.. and the Republicans keep pushing it.
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)I mean if rw heads explode, there's not a lot inside to splatter about.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Just as John McCain was, after the mess George W left us in it will take some years to put every thing back in order. During this time the crazy RW only continues to show they are not capable and the smart ones like Coburn can not speak loud enough for their ears to hear.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)We_Must_Organize
(48 posts)Is that Romney wasn't conservative enough. "We need a real conservative not a moderate!" Oh how I can already hear it.
Cha
(297,487 posts)he is "Severely Conservative" and Lies like a sick dog to prove it.
I imagine the moderates will have something to add to that.
The gopropaganda teabagger machine is imploding from the inside..couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of liars.
cnn hitched its wagon to a nag.
the_chinuk
(332 posts)xfundy
(5,105 posts)on Slim Whitman records, to help assure their heads explode.
He was bigger than Elvis in Slovakia or somewhere.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Whatever that means could be interesting.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)policy.
NAO
(3,425 posts)those AM talk guys were HILARIOUS to listen to in November 2008.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Alwaysna
(574 posts)I fear if (when) President Obama wins there will be a coup d'etat. Republican Party of Green county VA in their March newsletter, edited by Ponce McPhee, calls for Obama to be driven out of office by a coup d' etat. I found this on dailykos website May 8 of this year. I don't think the GOP will tuck it's tail and wait for four more years. It would be a sorry day in USA if that were to happen.
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)Hell, make rMoney and all the tea freaks walk home.
j3161usa
(44 posts)First of all rush limbaugh and hannity could care less whos president--ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MAKING MONEY--and liberal bashing is a cash cow!! There are so many democrat bigots in this country, all you have to do is know someone with even the modest amount of inside info and you too can write a book or a newsletter and make a fortune! Limbaugh loves this divided two party, us vs them system. They love it even more when democrates are running things, they get to make all kinds of money on book sales. Rush got a 35 milion dollar contract just so he could keep up his BS. With democrates in charge they no longer have to make excuses like they did for bush. They will probably vote for obama just to keep their pockets fat!! They will definately need excuses for mitt romney, he already got them working overtime trying to stay ahead of his gigantic goofs and whopper size lies!
Skittles
(153,174 posts)gawd you people give yourselves away SO EASILY
lexw
(804 posts)...maybe a release of false tax forms that can't be proven b4 election day. Whatever the case, stay alert: it's definitely not over.
Ian62
(604 posts)is if there is massive fraudulent vote rigging on the Diebold etc. voting machines.
Diebold is now owned by a company in Spain.
But I have no further details.
It would be interesting to find out the ownership details of this Spanish company.
This US election is going to be decided in Spain, not the US.
It costs $20 and a few mins to rig a Diebold machine.
Alternatively the data file from each machine can be altered after it is sent to the processing center.
There is no audit trail of votes cast.
A computer programmer with 6 months experience could do it (obviously more experienced people would be used).
Another method would be to supply a patch to each machine which supposedly fixes a software bug, but actually rigs the count. (Like you get software upgrades to fix bugs on Windows all the time.)
The US vote counting system is one of the easiest in the world to tamper with.
No paper trail.
The CEO of Diebold said in 2004 that he would deliver Ohio to Bush.
He did.
No one knows what the true vote count actually was.
It was close.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)I think I would prefer watching their heads explode!
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)the only difference would have been which faction had the high ground in the struggle to control the GOP after the defeat. Personally I would have prefered defeating Newt for the simple joy of it. Romney will have to do.