City officials begging everyone to go home and shut up

[lunatica]

so things can get back to normal.

The very reason for these demonstrations is BECAUSE OF THAT NORMAL!!

You know what? Nothing is going to change if everyone shuts up and goes quiet. Nothing!

It’s an unfortunate fact, but there it is.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. They want them to go home so they know who the outside agitators are.

If white supremacists and other malign characters are the ones setting fires and trashing businesses and they are the only ones out in the streets, they can be identified and arrested.

[dware]

2. +100, nt

[still_one]

3. Thank-you

[stillcool]

4. +1

[lunatica]

5. It's been plainly obvious

that during the day the demonstrators are peaceful, and at night the mobs move in to destroy and loot.

I say arrest everyone who is being violent.

[scarletwoman]

6. Well, duh. That's why they want people of good will to stay home tonight, so the disrupters

aren't given cover by hiding among the peaceful demonstrators.

[lunatica]

9. So it's all back to the old normal

It seems to be a lose lose strategy. Just give up your righteous cause. That will work right?

[The Magistrate]

10. Do You See Anything Gained by the Nightly Demolitions?

[lunatica]

13. No I don't see anything good or righteous about

Violence. But if all the peaceful demonstrators go home do you think the instigators are going to hang around to be caught?

[The Magistrate]

15. In That Case, There Will Be No Further Destruction

Which strikes me as some benefit to the people living there.

[dware]

17. Yeah, they probably will hang around.

They're that stupid.

[Solomon]

24. Agreed. I was worrying they would disapear

and remain uncaught, but i think they very well may be that stupid

[dware]

27. Stupid and arrogant,

and why not? The CIC (Criminal in Chief) is their role model and we all know what kind of person he is, stupid and arrogant.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Foregoing gathering in the street for an evening in order to keep right-wingers from taking over

and wrecking your city isn't giving up a righteous cause, but helping it.

[lunatica]

16. So you think that shutting up and going silent

will change anything?

The demonstrators are on the horns of a dilemma. No matter what they do it seems nothing will change.

[dware]

21. Nobody's shutting up and going silent,

they're being asked to stay home for now so that the officials can find out who these assholes are.

Why you fail to see this is beyond me.

[lunatica]

26. What's to stop the violent ones from going home too

so they don’t get arrested?

Their modus operandi is to hide and mingle so they aren’t caught.

[dware]

30. Because they're stupid and arrogant,

just like their role model, you know, the CIC (Criminal in Chief.)

[scarletwoman]

25. No one is being told to shut up and go silent! I don't get why you're going on about this nonsense!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. No, I think delaying mass protests or organizing in a different way

in order to make it possible to learn who the outside agitators are and break up their networks will be more effective in the long run than continuing to demonstrate while bad guys infiltrate their ranks and behave violently with the result that the peaceful demonstrators will get blamed for it.

[dware]

14. So you'd rather have more destruction by this outside agitators?

Things will never be back to normal, the murder of George Floyd, I believe, is the tipping point on police brutality against POC.
And nobody is giving up their righteous cause, it's designed to catch the assholes who are doing the violence so that the peaceful protesters can take up their righteous cause in relative peace.

[lunatica]

18. If you believe that you're naive.

[dware]

22. Naive?

I think not, more like realist.

[scarletwoman]

19. I don't think you know what's going on here. There have been peaceful marches & rallies all day long

There will be more tomorrow.

All our main officials are Dems who are just as outraged at the George Floyd murder as our community members. They are all acknowledging the longstanding problem of systemic racism and promising to pursue justice and rebuilding the affected communities.

No one is being asked to "give up your righteous cause." They are being asked to help the fight against the outside agitators by voluntarily observing the curfew.

[lunatica]

31. The demonstrators have been going home every night

They aren’t the ones starting fires or looting. They don’t need to be asked to go home because they’re already doing it.

[dware]

32. So this is what you're complaining about?

That the city officials asked them to go home tonight so they can get a handle on the agitators?
Really????????????

[lunatica]

34. If all the demonstrations stop

then nothing changes does it?

I’m talking about the bad guys winning yet again, by pretending they’re part of the social change movement to fight racism.

Do you disagree with that?

[dware]

36. Who, besides you, have said all the protests are going to stop?

It's for one night as far as I can tell.

Maybe you need to calm down and let things play out.

[lunatica]

38. How very patronizing of you

Pointing out the dilemma that people of good will are forced to experience isn’t that hard to understand. Maybe you need to pay more attention to history.

[dware]

39. As I said, I'm a realist and I am also a history buff.

But whatever.

[lunatica]

40. I'm sure you have many examples

of social change coming about all by itself after the people all go home quietly.

[scarletwoman]

33. No, last night no one went home, unfortunately. Which gave the arsonists cover because they could

hide among the legitimate demonstrators and move through the city.

[lunatica]

35. Last night the police abandoned some of the cities

Which was an open invitation to destroy as much as the rioters wanted.

If the good guys go home tonight why would the bad guys stay? Their entire strategy is to become invisible by mingling with the peaceful marchers. They would go home too.

[scarletwoman]

37. Obviously, you need to rush yourself here to the Twin Cities to direct the response correctly.

Have it at.

Bye.

[dware]

8. Well, yeah,

that's why they want everyone off the streets so they can identify and arrest these assholes.

[lunatica]

20. And then what?

The rabble rousers aren’t going to respect anything.

[dware]

23. Ok.. nt

[Tipperary]

7. Thank you for this.

+1

[EleanorR]

11. Thank you!! They are not trying to shut up the protesters!

[rockfordfile]

29. I agree