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Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:43 PM Jun 2020

Is this the first actual military action on American civillians during the protests?

I mean the Army, not National Guard. I think we have a very serious issue with this one. Even though it is allowed in this particular jurisdiction, Bunker Bitch is signalling his intentions to dominate and literally endangered people's lives. Show of force is a military strategic action used on insurgents. I don't think this complies with FAA rules either.

What's next for the cowering Orange Peel?

Bunker Bitch ordered it:

The nation’s capital, roiled by protest, is the one jurisdiction where the Army can deploy without needing approval from a governor. So President Trump, declaring that “the destruction of peaceful life and the spilling of blood is against humanity and God,” ordered the Army to deploy an active-duty military police battalion for Washington, Defense Department officials said Monday.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/us/floyd-protests-live.html
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Is this the first actual military action on American civillians during the protests? (Original Post) Newest Reality Jun 2020 OP
I don't know the answer to your question Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #1
I thought they were deployed 1992 Per the request of the CA governor? herding cats Jun 2020 #2
Weren't those all national guard? Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #4
No, there were active duty sarisataka Jun 2020 #5
Thank you. herding cats Jun 2020 #6
Really? Interesting. I always thought it was just the national guard. Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #7
One key difference sarisataka Jun 2020 #8
1932 Bonus March. 1863 NYC draft riots Ex Lurker Jun 2020 #3
BBC: "George Floyd: Can President Trump deploy the military?" EX500rider Jun 2020 #9

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
1. I don't know the answer to your question
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:49 PM
Jun 2020

but I was watching video of them deployed in DC, and maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but in their faces it looked a lot of them did not want to be there. About an hour and thirty minutes in the guy gets some close up video of them.


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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
2. I thought they were deployed 1992 Per the request of the CA governor?
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jun 2020

I'm sure they've been used previously but not without formally invoking the insurrection act that I know of ever.

I believe it might have been used during desegregation, if I recall correctly.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
6. Thank you.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:13 AM
Jun 2020

I'd thought so, but I was young then and may have remembered incorrectly. It's good to know even at that age the gravity of the situation made me pay attention.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
7. Really? Interesting. I always thought it was just the national guard.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jun 2020

From wikipedia... Well, hope this doesn't happen again.


In another incident, the LAPD and Marines intervened in a domestic dispute in Compton, in which the suspect held his wife and children hostage. As the officers approached, the suspect fired two shotgun rounds through the door, injuring some of the officers. One of the officers yelled to the Marines, "Cover me," as per law enforcement training to be prepared to fire upon if necessary. However, per their military training, the Marines mistook the wording as providing cover while utilizing firepower, resulting in a total of 200 rounds being sprayed into the house. Remarkably, neither the suspect nor the woman and children inside the house were harmed.[97]

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
8. One key difference
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jun 2020

Was the Governor requested the support of active duty forces.

I knew some Marines that were involved in that incident. It was a terminology misunderstanding. Luckily the Marines applied the concept of suppressive fire, designed to keep an opponent pinned rather than cause casualties. It is extremely dangerous in a civilian situation however as the avoid casualties is quite a secondary priority.

There were relieved when they found no one had been injured

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
3. 1932 Bonus March. 1863 NYC draft riots
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:21 AM
Jun 2020

Little Rock 1957, Oxford MS 1962. In addition to the abovementioned LA riots. You could also consider Hurricane Katrina. It was disaster relief but there was also a mandate to restore order.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
9. BBC: "George Floyd: Can President Trump deploy the military?"
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020
"The Insurrection Act

Has the law been used before?
According to the Congressional Research Service, the Insurrection Act has been used dozens of times in the past, although not for almost three decades.

It was last invoked in 1992 by former US President George HW Bush during race riots in Los Angeles.

The law was used throughout the 1950s and 60s during the civil rights era by three different presidents, including when there were objections from state governors.

President Dwight Eisenhower faced objections when he used the law in 1957 to send US troops to Arkansas to control a protest at a school, where black and white children were being taught together."


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52893540
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