Black leader 'stunned' after phone call with Facebook's Zuckerberg:

[turbinetree]

He ‘lacks the ability to understand’ race issues

Published 1 min ago on June 2, 2020
By Tom Boggioni



According to a report from Bloomberg, Black civil rights leaders who participated in a conference call with Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg walked away afterward “disappointed and stunned” at the tech billionaire’s seeming inability to understand issues that impact African-Americans.

The report notes that part of the discussion involved Zuckerberg’s decision to ignore and dismiss comments made by Donald Trump about police brutality protesters — with one Black leader calling the exec’s explanation “incomprehensible.”

According to Bloomberg’s Jeff Green, “Mark Zuckerberg hosted a nearly hour-long video call with U.S. civil rights leaders to discuss ongoing issues around his company’s policies as they relate to race, elections and other topics,” before adding it didn’t go well based on comments from Color of Change President Rashad Robinson.

In an interview, Robinson lamented, “… the problem with my ongoing conversations with Mark, is that I feel like I spent a lot of time, and my colleagues spent a lot of time, explaining to him why these things are a problem, and I think he just very much lacks the ability to understand it.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/black-leader-stunned-after-phone-call-with-facebooks-zuckerberg-he-lacks-the-ability-to-understand-race-issues/

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note: Bloomburg has a pay wall

And as for Zuckerburg...............he still has no warning label that the trumpster lies and is spreading misinformation............

[Beakybird]

1. He can't understand the problems of hate speech and misinformation because he profits from it.

[Thomas Hurt]

2. Naw like President Bunkerb*tch he is amoral and greedy.

He understands, he just doesn't care.

[Brainfodder]

7. IKR, anyone who makes billions and keeps working is a greedy POS?

Haven't seen one that wasn't?

The 400 richest families in America: All Sadists?

This is their country too getting FUBAR deluxe treatment?

[wnylib]

52. Or, President Fascist has something on him,

courtesy of Putin spy operations. So the orange fascist gets to keep his public platform for destroying America.

[Captain Zero]

3. Mark and Jared both have that vacant, 'oh if I have to' look.

Phone it in.

[2naSalit]

6. +1

[MontanaMama]

11. He's a psychopath imho.

Same as Jared.

[Baltimike]

13. this. nt

[Iliyah]

4. Why? . . .

Zuckerberg and cohorts have repeatedly sided with RWers including, but not limited to shithole and family.

[gratuitous]

5. Maybe if he'd gone to a good school, he could have been educated

Unfortunately he only went to Harvard.

[LunaSea]

8. Why would a white boy growing up in

whiteboy paradise have a clue?

[lostnfound]

60. Lots of them do, if exposed to good literature and compassionate parents

Lots of them don’t, also.
And then there’s stephen Miller, who seems to have had compassionate parents but still became a sociopath.

[kimbutgar]

9. Yet he's a Jewish boy married to an Asian woman and has biracial children

Those children are not mf45’s White Aryans.

[TheBlackAdder]

20. In the end, it would just mean the Zuckerbergs would be placed on the last train car to be gassed.

.

Like Stephen Miller -- No matter how 'White' he thinks he is, being Jewish will override all to Neo-Nazis.

.

[kimbutgar]

49. Exactly

Useful idiot

[JI7]

58. Who gives a shit. Look at what he said about holocaust deniers.

it's not about whether he himself is the bigot.

[DeminPennswoods]

10. He's high-functioning, but he is on the autism scale imho.

I think he's all about money, too, but autism would explain a lot of his inability to relate or empathize.

[Wellstone ruled]

24. Yes he seems to be

Autistic as per a Mental Health Family member,but,testing would be needed to verify.

[yardwork]

30. That is a complete falsehood about autism.

My son is on the autism spectrum and is one of the most empathetic people I've ever met. Autistic people may have difficulty picking up social cues, but that doesn't mean that they aren't empathetic and caring people.

I think the word you're seeking for Zuckerberg is "sociopath."

[marble falls]

40. Bingo.

[jaxexpat]

46. Yup, sociopath.

It's a pretty common trait for many billionaires.

[coti]

51. It depends on the person. It's a very broad spectrum. nt

[drmeow]

62. empathy is partly learned

The fact that your son is empathic has less to do with his autism and more to do with how you raised him. Many people on the autism spectrum need to learn to put themselves in other people's shoes and, for people with asbergers at least, not bring good at reading cues and facial expressions can add a challenge to that.

[Sophia_Of_PlanetX]

53. As someone with ASD, I think Zuckerberg is just a terrible person.

It no doubt helped with his hyper-focus on Facebook and made him rich, but he is also lacking in morals and empathy.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. "Making the world a better place."

For who, exactly?

[louis-t]

39. That's 'for WHOM'.

[Baitball Blogger]

41. The whole world for Whom!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

14. It's not too surprising.

His father was a psychiatrist and his mother was a dentist. He attended Harvard after going to a private school.

Has he EVER even been exposed to life as a poor "white" guy, let alone be exposed to a mostly-black neighborhood? Doubt it.

[RAB910]

15. Anyone who saw the movie about how Zuckerburg got rich with Facebook

Knows he is not a good person

[stopdiggin]

29. and yet the movie was (supposedly) a huge success

even among younger people. REALLY had me scratching my head. Zuckerberg as a "success" story? Don't you walk away from this feeling kind of slimed and dirty?

[RAB910]

31. He was a complete jerk in that movie

[Coventina]

16. And yet, we still have Facebook apologists here on DU. n/t

[Buckeye_Democrat]

27. "Well, now, it's useful for keeping in touch with family."

That's what I usually see.

I always think, "It is?! What about e-mails or phone calls or texts? Heck, even snail-mail?"

I'll keep to myself what I think is the real motivation for most people.

[Coventina]

35. I think it's laziness. Facebook is "easy".

For some reason, friends and family aren't worth an effort.

[kiri]

57. Zucky is an echo of Trump

Zucky (whose name means "sugar mountain" in German) is a really amoral man, with no core principles or values. He is an echo of Trump.

[Beringia]

64. I find it useful and I don't consider myself an apologist

A great way to keep in touch with anyone you have ever met at some time, and want to have some connection to and also their posts can be very enriching and encouraging. I have had very close friends that as time goes on, or you move away, the friendship dies. But it still nice to see their thoughts and what is happening in their lives. Even my childhood friends who I parted ways with, I really enjoy seeing their posts.

Zuckerberg enables Facebook, and controls it to some extent, but Facebook isn't a political alliance website. The opposite. You can have FB friends who are totally ignorant of politics or social issues. And then some who teach you something or are more socially conscious than you are.

DU is it's own bubble in many ways, which has its downside.

Zuckerberg will die at some point, and maybe his successor will change things.

[Coventina]

65. .

[unblock]

17. it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding

it.


zuckerberg only sees dollar signs, and he sees no profit in doing the right thing.

bigotry is controversy, controversy generates eyeballs, eyeballs generate advertising profits.

so *of course* he can't understand all this talk about limiting bigotry.

[Hoyt]

18. If trump's posts are allowed but not marked as BS, comment and set the record straight.

The "Angry," "Sad," or "Wow" thingies are important, as are liking comments you agree with.

Out vote the MFers just like I hope we do in November.

[PatSeg]

22. That's a good point

Whenever I encounter a false or misleading post, I'm quick to set the record straight. I don't want a rerun of 2016. I provide links whenever possible.

[infullview]

26. Links may not help.

Site like this are designed to feed the particular bias the user has. Just like youtube in that regard.

[TheBlackAdder]

19. This reminds me of the Bell Hooks evisceration of the faux feminism with Sheryl Sandberg's "Lean In"

.

His sister is no better.

http://www.thefeministwire.com/2013/10/17973/

...

Although Sandberg revised her perspective on feminism, she did not turn towards primary sources (the work of feminist theorists) to broaden her understanding. In her book, she offers a simplistic description of the feminist movement based on women gaining equal rights with men. This construction of simple categories (women and men) was long ago challenged by visionary feminist thinkers, particularly individual black women/women of color. These thinkers insisted that everyone acknowledge and understand the myriad ways race, class, sexuality, and many other aspects of identity and difference made explicit that there was never and is no simple homogenous gendered identity that we could call “women” struggling to be equal with men. In fact, the reality was and is that privileged white women often experience a greater sense of solidarity with men of their same class than with poor white women or women of color.

Sandberg’s definition of feminism begins and ends with the notion that it’s all about gender equality within the existing social system. From this perspective, the structures of imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy need not be challenged. And she makes it seem that privileged white men will eagerly choose to extend the benefits of corporate capitalism to white women who have the courage to ‘lean in.’ It almost seems as if Sandberg sees women’s lack of perseverance as more the problem than systemic inequality. Sandberg effectively uses her race and class power and privilege to promote a narrow definition of feminism that obscures and undermines visionary feminist concerns.

...

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[dalton99a]

21. Zuckerberg is all about greed. He doesn't give a shit about America, Americans or American democracy

[geardaddy]

23. He can't understand the issues of humans, period

He's a sociopath.

[BSdetect]

25. There must be a way to bypass Fuckfacebook - surely a simple app

[Mr.Bill]

48. I have never spent one second

on Facebook, and it doesn't require an app. Life can be lived without it.

[dhill926]

28. either he needs to go from Facebook...

or Facebook needs to go. Something will always rise up to replace it....

[Chainfire]

32. How could anyone think

That a billionaire businessman could have any reason to try to understand race relations? He is totally insulated from the situation by walls of money.

[Thekaspervote]

33. BOYCOTT FB now!! Lots of other platforms to keep in touch with F & F

[kinksfan1]

44. Deleted my account last night.

I'm done with it.

[Boomerproud]

66. I tried to delete but couldn't find what to click to do it.

Would appreciate some help on this. Yes I am only semi literate computerwise.

[Hortensis]

34. Thanks, Turbinetree. 'lacks ability to understand' is a damning

statement. If true, it also offers extremely valuable peep into something seriously wrong with one of the most powerful men on the planet.

[dlk]

36. When someone has no conscience, they can do anything

[kentuck]

37. Trump doesn't post the same crap on Facebook that he does on Twitter...

He tries to appeal to a different part of the Republican Party on Facebook. It's propaganda bullshit but it's not as inflammatory.

[TeamPooka]

38. He's a sociopath like trump

[smirkymonkey]

42. Zuckerburg is a fucking freak.

He really is. He gives me the creeps. Something just isn't right about that guy. He has that inhuman Jared Kushner/Stephen Miller quality about him. It's like they have no souls.

[totodeinhere]

43. I think the solution to this is to simply say no and refuse to use Facebook.

If you have a Facebook account, delete it. There are some good tutorials on the Net which explain how to completely delete your Facebook account once and for all. If we continue to use Facebook we become unwitting enablers.

[oswaldactedalone]

45. Fuck Zuckerburg and Facebook

Refuse to use. It’s like injecting strychnine into your mind.

[angrychair]

47. What's interesting there

Is Zuckerberg's wife is not white.

I guess being a billionaire creates a degree of immunity but ignorance

[Mr.Bill]

50. There is a segment of white racists

that think Asians are a superior race. He probably thinks his status is raised by being married to her and having her be the mother of his children.

[angrychair]

55. Never heard that before

My son's girlfriend is Asian and they have only encountered the normal type of racists.

In my experience money and power only protect you so much, at the end of the day, to a bigoted, xenophobic racist, they see non-whites as all the same.

Interesting twist though.

[JI7]

69. In the case of Zuckerberg I don't think he cares. Trump has attacked Asians recently with the

Chinese Virus crap and ordering an Asian American reporter to ask China whatever she was asking him.

He just seems like one of those types that doesn't care as long as he himself is doing ok.

[JI7]

59. There is nothing interesting about that. Many Jewish people don't like him either

becsuse of what he said about holocaust deniers. Him being Jewish doesn't make it ok or better.

[angrychair]

61. Never said anything about him being Jewish

Didn't even know he was Jewish.

Confused.

[Snake Plissken]

54. Zuckerberg is extremely intelligent, more so than I realized, but he some major defects

serious defects,

so I'm not surprised that he can't understand race issues, because race issues can't not be broken down to a few lines of code.

[BadgerMom]

56. Leave Facebook.

That is the answer. The users have that power. It may be unpalatable to many, but it is the answer. Sometimes doing the right thing is uncomfortable. (She steps away from her self-righteous pulpit.)

[Crunchy Frog]

63. People shouldn't be able to have that much power in our society

just because they're extremely rich.

The problem is more that we live in a plutocracy than that this particular plutocrat is an asshole.

[Celerity]

68. +100000

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

67. Kick