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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:54 AM Jun 2020

Steve Schmidt: "This is an urgent matter. This is not ok in America. We do not have secret police"



Steve Schmidt ✔@SteveSchmidtSES

Who are these men ? What Law Enforcement agency are they with? Where are the badges, insignia, and names? Many of them are obese and unfit. The facial hair is unusual for Federal Officers. This is an urgent matter. This is not ok in America. We do not have secret police here

Ben Davis @bdaviskc

Completely unmarked officers in riot gear holding protesters blocks away from the White House. No badges. No insignias. No name tags. Nothing. Refused to tell us who they’re with. #DCprotest #DCprotests

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11:40 AM - Jun 6, 2020


We need to ID these people immediately!
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Steve Schmidt: "This is an urgent matter. This is not ok in America. We do not have secret police" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 OP
They are MAGATs malaise Jun 2020 #1
I think it is obvious who Steve Schmidt IS NOT voting for.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2020 #2
It's about time. He and others in the GOP BUILT THIS. calimary Jun 2020 #40
Well said. Without them speaking out, it will be harder. I welcome their new-found enlightenment. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #41
I actually do welcome it also. calimary Jun 2020 #48
Excellent questions Calimary. It is hard to say what each of them is willing to tolerate and what Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #49
They're mercenaries. Nobody with any integrity would do this. struggle4progress Jun 2020 #3
Eric Prince's boys.....Betsy DeVos's brother's Blackwater boys..... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2020 #4
When I've heard reference to Erik Prince's mercenaries over the years, dewsgirl Jun 2020 #9
My daughter worked in the gym at Prince Industries.. LessAspin Jun 2020 #31
I think a lot of Prince's mercenaries were former Green Berets or other special forces. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #37
I don't think so. I would think Blackwater boys would be in top notch shape and smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #27
No way...Eric Princes boys have better gear than real cops. diverdownjt Jun 2020 #38
Where is the investigative reporting on this? Sneederbunk Jun 2020 #5
NY Times has an article csziggy Jun 2020 #44
Yep. FM123 Jun 2020 #6
Mayor of DC should have them arrested if they refuse to identify themselves. njhoneybadger Jun 2020 #7
This! splunge63 Jun 2020 #13
Exactly. Where are the police in this? nt coti Jun 2020 #50
The thing is, there will never be any shortage of men... A HERETIC I AM Jun 2020 #8
First person shooters refugees from mom's basement and unemployed mall cops. C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #10
Another Merry Band of Unfukable Losers OMGWTF Jun 2020 #32
Some of the replies to that thread are fucking hilarious. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #11
"The Gravy Seals... 3catwoman3 Jun 2020 #15
LOL Mike 03 Jun 2020 #17
Some of my faves Nevilledog Jun 2020 #18
The Home Depot Bowling team! csziggy Jun 2020 #43
Trump is taking a page from Putin's playbook for the Crimea invasion dalton99a Jun 2020 #12
Same tactics used in Chechnya, Syria, poisonings in UK, Germany, elsewhere erronis Jun 2020 #28
Vlad probably has a play book just for Donnie, complete with daily check-ins. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author njhoneybadger Jun 2020 #14
Roger Stone's motorcycle gang? Proud Boys? Mike 03 Jun 2020 #16
Rachel had the segment last night identifying several groups of these mystery cops. Dustlawyer Jun 2020 #19
The Washington DC police department should arrest them unless they identify themselves. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #20
When fascism comes to America ... Martin Eden Jun 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Submariner Jun 2020 #22
no name , badge or id. bage # covered up ? out of uniform? fired. AllaN01Bear Jun 2020 #23
They're from a Jon McNaughton painting Blue Owl Jun 2020 #24
Erick Prence tiptonic Jun 2020 #25
If they will not identify themselves Jarqui Jun 2020 #26
We're Not Somehow Immune to All This, Folks... panfluteman Jun 2020 #29
it's already happening in front of our eyes, & has been for the past 4 years onetexan Jun 2020 #36
Call of Doody players who met on Xbox live RainCaster Jun 2020 #30
tRump could care less about them.. Hip2bSquare Jun 2020 #33
Just wondering, marie999 Jun 2020 #34
I would guess they are Academi. LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #35
Doxx them ALL....now! (n/t) Moostache Jun 2020 #39
STEVE! You and countless others say SOMETHING MUST BE DONE! So what the fuck are we supposed to do? BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #42
The mayor needs to confront them with the police. coti Jun 2020 #51
they don't even match. barbtries Jun 2020 #46
These wannabees need to be bum rushed Squidly Jun 2020 #47

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,057 posts)
2. I think it is obvious who Steve Schmidt IS NOT voting for....
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jun 2020

He made that loud and clear to Joy Reid last night regarding a segment about Lisa Murkowski's "struggle". Steve Schmidt laid out her answer for her.

calimary

(81,768 posts)
40. It's about time. He and others in the GOP BUILT THIS.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jun 2020

He's doing his best to make amends by now. By NOW. But where was he a few years ago when he was lacerating Dems and using that sharp tongue and that shrewd language and those powerful phrasings - AGAINST our side? When he was so smug and uttered such juicy and cocky and pointed smackdowns?

ALL OF 'EM.

The Steve Schmidts and the Rick Wilsons and the David Jollys and the other "recovering republi-CONS" who can't stomach being part of that fucked up group of "true believers" anymore. They may not like it now, but they helped build it. They laid the groundwork.

You just wait - after trump is gone, I suspect many of them will go right straight back to the "old ways" and be proud full-on GOP again. In a way, they're a lot like donald, who cares only about how whatever-it-is makes him look. They realize that having anything to do with the "party of trump" makes them look bad, and maybe it's made them give some thought to all this.

MAYBE it's made them start to think, and change their minds, and adjust their views, and be a little more objective than agenda-driven.

Maybe.

And I went to Catholic school where they taught forgiveness for sin, from God to us sinners, from Jesus on the Cross to all of us, and from all of us to each other. And I'm trying. I'm trying to "think forgiveness." I'm trying to think that maybe there really might have been a sincere change-of-heart among these self-described "former Republicans."

That said, though, hopefully you'll excuse me for not wanting to hold my breath...

Meantime, I'd rather stand with those who can't breathe.

Evolve Dammit

(16,943 posts)
41. Well said. Without them speaking out, it will be harder. I welcome their new-found enlightenment.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jun 2020

I know it's not perfect, and they certainly might revert, but I gotta think some of them have seen enough and are disgusted, angry and horrified like the rest of us. I may be overly optimistic, but at this point, we need some strong voices and serious Congressional leadership. NOW. I will take it when and where available. We the People need as much as those folks can articulate. JUST STAND UP and call it what it is. Unprecendented, traitorous, dangerous and immoral.

calimary

(81,768 posts)
48. I actually do welcome it also.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jun 2020

I believe in deathbed conversions and all that other stuff. I believe that hearts and minds really can be changed and that people are redeemable. Evidently Somebody thought so.

It’s just that with the aforementioned “recovering GOPers, I’m not 100% willing to trust. At least not yet. Most of them seem converted and appear to have faced the error of their ways. But that’s right now. With trump to disown and denounce and disavow.

But what happens if Romney decides to take another stab at it? What happens if Mike Dewine steps forward? Heck, what do they do when Tom Cotton and Mike Pompeo decide to go for it? Do they remain reasonable like they are now? Or do they run back to the GOP so they can keep cutting taxes for the rich, keep using that as an excuse to cut services and programs for the poor and needy, curtail civil rights and voting rights, and try to own and dominate women’s bodies?

Is it just trump they can’t stomach? Or have they started realizing it’s their policies, and a lot of what they believe in, that they need to rethink - and leave behind?

I hope it’s the latter. I sincerely do hope there’s a genuine re-evaluation. I hope there’s a great awakening, a great realization, that policies only of what benefits the haves and have-mores are just plain wrong.

But I’ve been around long enough to know I shouldn’t get my hopes up too high.

Evolve Dammit

(16,943 posts)
49. Excellent questions Calimary. It is hard to say what each of them is willing to tolerate and what
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

each wants to see for this country. I'm afraid of what happens when these protests stop. The outcry needs to broaden even more. The use of the Blackhawk helicopter, tear gas and secret police (no insignia, etc.) should be scaring the hell out of anyone with a functioning brain. Unless you want a police state, that is. We'll see how many are down with that in the near future.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
9. When I've heard reference to Erik Prince's mercenaries over the years,
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jun 2020

I've somehow pictured them a bit more, I don't know in shape.
Most of these guys aren't fit enough to be accepted into the U.S.military.

LessAspin

(1,158 posts)
31. My daughter worked in the gym at Prince Industries..
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jun 2020

As a kinesiology major in Holland Michigan my daughter interned at a gym in the old Prince Industries complex. It was owned by Johnson Controls when she worked there.

Let's just say Erik Prince did not skimp when it came to making sure the employees could stay in shape. Plenty of equipment and space was devoted to it. So your point is well taken.

Lonestarblue

(10,345 posts)
37. I think a lot of Prince's mercenaries were former Green Berets or other special forces.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jun 2020

These guys don’t fit that picture. Some of them are prison guards and ICE agents, plus TSA because airports need fewer of them now. A photo from last week showed one man with a patch on his sleeve indicating the San Diego Correctional system.

The bigger question is to whom do they report? And what chain of command is that person in? And what authorities have they been given? Have they been given the right to arrest people? These people seem to be operating outside the Capitol police as well as outside any the National Guard or US military. Is Barr the one issuing their orders? And if so what legal right does the AG have to direct the actions of government employees outside the DOJ?

Or is all this just one big photo op that Trump is staging to make it look like the protests are out of control and he is the strongman who is using the country’s resources to manfully take control back?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. I don't think so. I would think Blackwater boys would be in top notch shape and
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

not as ...um..."special" looking. These guys look like they were recruited from a MAGA rally or the Klan or something. They do not look like professionals.

diverdownjt

(703 posts)
38. No way...Eric Princes boys have better gear than real cops.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jun 2020

These are just idiots who need a paycheck more than they're lives.

Look at the t-shirts and they're fitness level. not cops. just punks.

csziggy

(34,141 posts)
44. NY Times has an article
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jun 2020

Behind a paywall so I can't read it, but here:

Unidentified Federal Police Prompt Fears Amid Protests in Washington

The Trump administration has deployed phalanxes of officers in riot gear and no identifiable markings to police demonstrations in the capital. Democrats want to know who they are.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/us/politics/unidentified-police-protests.html

FM123

(10,055 posts)
6. Yep.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jun 2020

Even without ID, they are showing us who they are: trump's post-election loss revenge machine that he is waiting to inflict upon us.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,393 posts)
8. The thing is, there will never be any shortage of men...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jun 2020

And let’s not kid ourselves, it’s MOSTLY men, who are willing to show up for anything as long as they are here to “Kick ass and take names”.

Oh...and forget the taking names part. They just want to hurt people with no repercussions.

Nevilledog

(51,521 posts)
18. Some of my faves
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jun 2020

Cyrus Bezyan (@cyrusbezyan) Tweeted:
@cgordini @bdaviskc They're probably getting paid in cheetos, replica German WW2 memorabilia and bags of those gold coins that are actually chocolate.


Simon Bloke Collins (@SimonCollins74) Tweeted:
@bdaviskc “And you, I will call Flounder” https://t.co/LCLfP5Wc4L


Skarekrow (@Jeff_Kantrowski) Tweeted:
@bdaviskc @ByTimGraham Can't stop laughing at the tactical sharpie https://t.co/WFt5y5mIMB





(Yeah, I don't know how to embed the tweet... I'll put that on my to do list)



csziggy

(34,141 posts)
43. The Home Depot Bowling team!
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jun 2020
anton newcombe
@antonnewcombe
·
13h
Replying to
@bdaviskc
Look at the state of them - kind of like a Home Depot bowling team


Sunshine Came Softly
@SunshineHappyP1
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13h
minus the balls



Evolve Dammit

(16,943 posts)
45. Vlad probably has a play book just for Donnie, complete with daily check-ins.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jun 2020

He is definately getting advice on how to divide, start a civil war and reap the aftermath. He's being aided and abetted by many fascists, criminals,,religious fanatics and congressional yes men and women, that he has tapped for his inner circle. The donors ensure the supply chain.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Dustlawyer

(10,502 posts)
19. Rachel had the segment last night identifying several groups of these mystery cops.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

One group was from the federal penitentiary in Beaumont Texas. These are the guys that rush into a cell to subdue inmates who are not falling in line. Being from the area I know that many of the guards at the penitentiary have Civid 19. Now they are Barr/Trump secret police!

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Jarqui

(10,133 posts)
26. If they will not identify themselves
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

why should people have to obey their wishes.

How do we know they haven't overthrown Trump and taken over?
(extreme question only to make the point)

If they touch you, they're just another person on this soil - who are assaulting you.

panfluteman

(2,093 posts)
29. We're Not Somehow Immune to All This, Folks...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jun 2020

Yes, what has happened in Hitler's Germany, in Putin's Russia, and in Ceausescu's Romania can also happen here. No democracy is immune to this. Constant vigilance, and intelligent, educated vigilance, is the price of freedom.

onetexan

(13,105 posts)
36. it's already happening in front of our eyes, & has been for the past 4 years
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jun 2020

since this orange fool became a voice for the RW nuts. Dangerous. We need to keep up the fighting back and shove them back to the woodworks they came from.

Hip2bSquare

(291 posts)
33. tRump could care less about them..
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jun 2020

The sad truth is... the orange fool couldn't care less about any one of them. They can stand there in their DIY riot gear from Acme sporting goods all day and night, but I guarantee not one of them will get a discount coupon for a night's stay at trump tower. Ruin their reputations and lives for a bone spur who will forget their entire existence with the next Joe Scarborough tweet.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
34. Just wondering,
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

If you can not tell that they are legitimate police officers, do you have to do what they say? Can you use deadly force to protect yourself from attack?

BamaRefugee

(3,488 posts)
42. STEVE! You and countless others say SOMETHING MUST BE DONE! So what the fuck are we supposed to do?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jun 2020

SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, COME UP WITH A PLAN!

It's obvious that protests do nothing.
DU posts do nothing.
Snarky memes do nothing.
Impeachment does nothing.
Sternly worded letters do nothing.
Tweets, TikToks and Instagram DO NOTHING.
Our politicians DO NOTHING.

Can any "pundit", politico. journalist, anyone living soul COME UP WITH A PLAN OF ACTION?

Because, believe me, we will try it!



coti

(4,612 posts)
51. The mayor needs to confront them with the police.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:10 PM
Jun 2020

And if they don't disperse or duly identify themselves and the authority under which they are they, arrest them.

barbtries

(28,842 posts)
46. they don't even match.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jun 2020

it seems to me to be some fucking ragtag militia from timbuktoo.

i am really debating paying my taxes this year. i am sick, sick to death of paying for this bullshit!~

Squidly

(784 posts)
47. These wannabees need to be bum rushed
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jun 2020

I bet that if anything goes down tonight these turds are going to turn tail and run for cover. There has got to be SOMETHING that can be done to get them off the streets and expose them and expose who is behind this.

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