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cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:35 AM Jun 2020

Huge fence? Private police?? Trump is preparing for a violent battle in November.

Trump is expecting to lose bigly in November. Really all the Repubes are starting to realize this and the signs are everywhere, though out of pride or fear they won't stand up to Trump and speak out against him and his actions.

So you get what we have here...a huge fence around the white house built for no reason during riots which genuinely didn't even come close to actually being threatening to the President.

Also he has unmarked police or military or private guards surrounding him and all throughout Washington DC now, wonder if that is where the $2 trillion in COVID relief is going?!?

Either way, don't let your guard down. It's funny to laugh about Baby gate now but Trump is preparing for a violent battle against the military in November when he refuses to leave the White house after losing and mark my words, he will literally burn the White House to the ground before he leaves.

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Huge fence? Private police?? Trump is preparing for a violent battle in November. (Original Post) cbdo2007 Jun 2020 OP
Well... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #1
Joe Biden will be sworn in as the next POTUS vlyons Jun 2020 #2
Presuming he lives that long. Odoreida Jun 2020 #8
Agree, Vlyons. The next president is sworn in January 20 at noon. Hortensis Jun 2020 #36
What private police? Kaleva Jun 2020 #3
There are no private police DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #4
I agree with you. Kaleva Jun 2020 #6
Heavily armed men who refuse to identify themselves G_j Jun 2020 #16
So, no private police then. Kaleva Jun 2020 #24
Speculation G_j Jun 2020 #29
If the election is stolen, crowds will fill the streets of DC. Hortensis Jun 2020 #5
When Biden wins (optimistically), how long will he wait before he takes down the fence. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #7
Trump won't give him the satisfaction, they will be taken down ahead of time Shermann Jun 2020 #14
I don;t buy into all the conspiracy theories, we still have laws and people who seriously beachbumbob Jun 2020 #9
Which Trump ignores and is allowed to ignore at every turn. The guy who ran a fake charity using uponit7771 Jun 2020 #11
I could less what trump thinks or do. He has gotten away because he was able to bribe and bully his beachbumbob Jun 2020 #12
K&R, I do NOT believe the number of people who think Trump can't *IN EFFECT* cancel the election uponit7771 Jun 2020 #10
Im not I any way saying he will cancel the election... cbdo2007 Jun 2020 #13
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #15
Im pretty sure it wont just be 1000 BW thugs... Squidly Jun 2020 #17
How can he cancel the election marie999 Jun 2020 #18
Wow ... I even put asterisks around the phrase *in effect* and a strawman is still proffered. Damn uponit7771 Jun 2020 #21
I have mild cognitive impairment. marie999 Jun 2020 #22
In effect means by other means, he doesn't have to cancel the election just enact laws Barr will ... uponit7771 Jun 2020 #23
What laws do you think he could enact without congressional approval marie999 Jun 2020 #25
The one he just enacted on Washington but without the state governor's approval uponit7771 Jun 2020 #27
The Constitution marie999 Jun 2020 #28
Trump showed all that was meaningless the military did what he wanted uponit7771 Jun 2020 #30
The military did very little. marie999 Jun 2020 #31
They did something and that was enough uponit7771 Jun 2020 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jun 2020 #34
What did he order them to do that was unconstitutional. marie999 Jun 2020 #35
Actually, it's his prison now. ananda Jun 2020 #19
I envision that somewhere in his final exit from the White House there Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #20
He likes to plan ahead. kentuck Jun 2020 #26
We literally elected the president of the Hunger Games. Initech Jun 2020 #33
Yep, it's terrifying. Especially if he gets thousands of MAGAts in there too that will make the cbdo2007 Jun 2020 #37

2naSalit

(86,251 posts)
1. Well...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:41 AM
Jun 2020

I've been saying for a couple years now that the quantity and depth of the filth in the WH at this point might require burning it down after they are ousted... but I don't really care of they are still inside when it does, do you?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. Joe Biden will be sworn in as the next POTUS
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:44 AM
Jun 2020

Biden doesn't need to be in the WH to act as POTUS. Once he is POTUS, the Secret Service and Fed Marshalls will escort Trump to a waiting helicopter. He will go peacefully, or be arrested for trespassing.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
8. Presuming he lives that long.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:04 AM
Jun 2020

I expect Trump will go full fascist, and that doesn't primarily mean opening fire on protesters.

It means opposition leaders "disappear".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Agree, Vlyons. The next president is sworn in January 20 at noon.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jun 2020

For those concerned, that stupid fence wouldn't stop anything. Itm, ugly in appearance and meaning as it is, it establishes a useful boundary for the peaceful protesters filling the streets of DC and beyond. Military leaders have stated they won't move against people exercising their constitutional right peaceably to assemble.

And if there's any problem with Trump leaving the premises, that will be handled by the usual high-ups whose job it is -- empowered and backed by the will of the people.

Itm, citizens are putting the fence to fine use as a giant memorial and message wall. Love it!

DeminPennswoods

(15,263 posts)
4. There are no private police
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:51 AM
Jun 2020

but there are federal law enforcement officers from different arms of the federal govt - like park rangers, FBI, military MPs, federal prison guards, etc. - that are not usually seen together.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
16. Heavily armed men who refuse to identify themselves
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:21 AM
Jun 2020

Heavily armed men who refuse to identify themselves are patrolling the streets of Washington, DC. They were sent by the Bureau of Prisons.

https://www.businessinsider.com/unidentified-prison-agents-patrol-dc-amid-protests-curfew-2020-6

G_j

(40,366 posts)
29. Speculation
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:56 PM - Edit history (1)

some have suggested Erik Prince involvement.

Then there is this,

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. If the election is stolen, crowds will fill the streets of DC.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:52 AM
Jun 2020

That stupid fence is intrinsically anti-democratic, but hopefully would work for us by slowing any stupid hotheads from trying to "storm" the WH. Note that our military leaders have said they will not act against peaceful demonstrators. Violent attacks on the WH would not be peaceful and could force action that could benefit the Republicans. (Or benefit us by providing an excuse for the military to move into in the WH compound? I so don't know and can't guess!)

My husband and I, too old to join the current crowds in the middle of a pandemic, were just saying, though, that if the right does move forward with attempted takeover of our government, we will have to join those to take to the streets to refuse to allow it also.

Have to admit, though, that I've been wishing we still lived in the relative security of a strong blue state that will refuse. GA and FL may be red moving purple-blue, but their state governments are not.

no_hypocrisy

(45,974 posts)
7. When Biden wins (optimistically), how long will he wait before he takes down the fence.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:56 AM
Jun 2020

I'd be concerned that the George Floyd demonstrators will be replaced by the MAGAts when Trump loses.

Shermann

(7,397 posts)
14. Trump won't give him the satisfaction, they will be taken down ahead of time
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:19 AM
Jun 2020

...unlike Jimmy Carter and those solar panels.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
9. I don;t buy into all the conspiracy theories, we still have laws and people who seriously
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:05 AM
Jun 2020

fulfill their duties they swear the oath to. Nov 3rd, trump will lose, come January Biden takes over. If trump wants to be removed by US marshalls, thats ok with me

uponit7771

(90,296 posts)
11. Which Trump ignores and is allowed to ignore at every turn. The guy who ran a fake charity using
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:07 AM
Jun 2020

... military vets isn't going to turn into a law abiding citizen who'll abide by the US constitution in 5 months.

Barr will be allow whatever laws to be broken Trump wants, he knows he'll go to jail too.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
12. I could less what trump thinks or do. He has gotten away because he was able to bribe and bully his
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:09 AM
Jun 2020

way. He isn;t going to bully the US Constitution nor the American people. He will be gone. Barr can't stop it

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
13. Im not I any way saying he will cancel the election...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:17 AM
Jun 2020

But if he loses and we all just think US Marshalls at going to walk in calmly and quietly breeze him out of there, that is just as naive if he has 1,000 Blackwater guards surrounding him and the White House.

Of course he will lose this battle but he's prepared to take the whole White House and much of DC down with him in his temper tantrum.

Squidly

(783 posts)
17. Im pretty sure it wont just be 1000 BW thugs...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jun 2020

Mark my words...he will put a call out to his supporters and every RWNJ with a gun who wants to play patriot will flock to DC to defend their messiah. The next 8 months are going to be VERY interesting.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
18. How can he cancel the election
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jun 2020

when it is the states that control the election. Do you think that the Republicans would let him try when if he could then the next president of the United States sworn into office on January 20, 2021, would be The Speaker Of the House who would serve for 4 years?

uponit7771

(90,296 posts)
23. In effect means by other means, he doesn't have to cancel the election just enact laws Barr will ...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jun 2020

... carry through that make it hard to elect anyone else but him.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
25. What laws do you think he could enact without congressional approval
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jun 2020

that would affect elections held by the states?

uponit7771

(90,296 posts)
27. The one he just enacted on Washington but without the state governor's approval
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jun 2020

... in each of the swing States and only in Democratic areas

There is no part of the law that says that the executive branch needs governor's approval to enact that law as far as I read it

If I'm wrong go ahead and state it for me

that's just right off the top of my head on something he can do to in effect make it hard for anyone else but him to win

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
28. The Constitution
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

Article II section 1, Amendments XII, XIV, XV. You should also read the Library of Congress Research Service Memorandum Overview of the Electoral College Procedure and the Role of Congress November 17, 2000

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
31. The military did very little.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jun 2020

It would be totally different if he asked them to do anything that was against the Constitution. My husband took an oath to defend the Constitution, not to follow orders of the President that were against the Constitution according to the UCMJ. This is a Marine town and we have many friends that are Marines whose fathers and grandfathers fought in WWII and Korea and veterans. They take their oath very seriously.

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #32)

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
35. What did he order them to do that was unconstitutional.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:33 AM
Jun 2020

He is the commander-in-chief and they must follow all orders that are not unconstitutional.

ananda

(28,825 posts)
19. Actually, it's his prison now.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

He will lose bigly in November.

Let him stay there and rot in prison.

The rest of the military will follow Biden.

Baitball Blogger

(46,640 posts)
20. I envision that somewhere in his final exit from the White House there
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jun 2020

Will be a scene of him behind the desk with a face covered in Aderall dust, like Scarface.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
37. Yep, it's terrifying. Especially if he gets thousands of MAGAts in there too that will make the
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:58 AM
Jun 2020

violence we are seeing now look like nothing.

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