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Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:10 PM

The Mississippi state flag: is it headed for the trash bin soon?

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Reply The Mississippi state flag: is it headed for the trash bin soon? (Original post)
Goodheart Jun 2020 OP
RT Atlanta Jun 2020 #1
PJMcK Jun 2020 #2
Hoyt Jun 2020 #3
Goodheart Jun 2020 #4
Wawannabe Jun 2020 #7
TreadSoftly Jun 2020 #5
SheltieLover Jun 2020 #6
Stallion Jun 2020 #8
brush Jun 2020 #9
VOX Jun 2020 #10
Kaleva Jun 2020 #11

Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:11 PM

1. sure hope so

GA got rid of their stars and bars 15ish years ago - those fucking stars and bars belong in a museum (at best).

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

2. It damn well should

But I ain’t holding my breath.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

3. A song . . . . . .

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:39 PM

4. That's not bad!

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:02 AM

7. Right. On! Hoyt!! Woot

Love me some Steve Earle.



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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:53 PM

5. Governor says: collect signatures

i.e. pound sand because a flag-change measure failed in 2001 so no sense to life any fingers.

This was published just yesterday re governor:
[link:https://www.wlox.com/2020/06/08/gov-reeves-says-mississippians-should-decide-change-flag-not-him/|]

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:54 PM

6. Can't be time, yet...

After only 155 years.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:12 AM

8. When Ole Miss Football and Basketball Players Start Questioning the Confederate Flag...

...then you watch how many Ole Miss supporters starting raising their voices to protect recruiting great black athletes

I've always been astonished how the SEC in the cradle of the Confederacy is so appealing to black athletes

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Response to Stallion (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:28 AM

9. The black population of the south is still pretty large.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:43 AM

10. In 1862, my g-g-grandfather was drafted into the 11th Mississippi Infantry.

Zachariah DeHay was a poor farmer in the wrong place in the wrong time. He didn’t enlist, wasn’t for secession or slavery. But he was caught up in the first American conscription act.

The 11th Mississippi was attached to Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia. The unit was involved in most of the big battles, including Pickett’s desperate advance at Gettysburg. The 11th made it to the stone wall, but in so doing:
Combatants – 393
Killed in action/died of wounds – 110
Wounded/wounded captured – 193
Captured unwounded – 37
Non-casualty – 53

My g-g-grandfather was one of the lucky 53, only to come down with smallpox, and he survived that as well. He made an attempt to “skedaddle” while recovering, but was caught and returned to his unit (by this time, the South was short on manpower, so he dodged the usual deserter’s fate). He was finally captured on April 2, 1865, and imprisoned for awhile before taking a loyalty oath and released. Back in Mississippi, he and his wife packed up what little they had and migrated to West Texas.

The ancestor who connects me was his daughter born in Texas *after* the war. I’m only here because of Zach’s extraordinary luck. Based upon what I’ve gleaned over time, Old Zach, sick to death (almost literally) and dispossessed by the Southern Confederacy, would likely be among the first to tear down that obscenity of a flag.

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Response to VOX (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:57 AM

11. B the end of the war, your ancestor's regiment mustered 64 men

April 2, 1865

"Breakthrough and Collapse at Petersburg
The regiment was flanked on both sides and retreated to Hatcher’s Run, which was unfordable due to heavy rains. Lieutenant Colonel Shannon and most of the regiment were forced to surrender, although some escaped by swimming the dangerously swollen waters. Color bearer Frank Hope tore the colors to pieces and threw the staff into the stream."

https://civilwarintheeast.com/confederate-regiments/mississippi/11th-mississippi-infantry-regiment/

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