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ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:20 AM Jun 2020

Syracuse Head Football Coach, Dino Babers, releases BLM statement...

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Dino Babers is black, his wife, Susan (whom he married 32 years ago), is white, and together they have 4 daughters. When it comes to coaching, he's first and foremost an educator (master's degree in education administration and supervision from Arizona State) and takes it very seriously that he's a leader of young men.

A couple of his post-game locker room speeches that'll have you on your feet:

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And one of my favorite video compilations after the huge, upset win over #2 Clemson:

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The 1st black Heisman Trophy winner, Ernie Davis, played for Syracuse. Dino loves history and knows the importance of this legacy.

I Dino Babers!

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Syracuse Head Football Coach, Dino Babers, releases BLM statement... (Original Post) ARPad95 Jun 2020 OP
Sports needs a ton of work Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #1
Good Post! ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #5
Mel Tucker at MSU Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #6
Rec'd & Retweeted... It was so well said. nt WePurrsevere Jun 2020 #2
One of my siblings is a Syracuse graduate malaise Jun 2020 #3
Zoom interview Coach Dino Babers had with local media today... ARPad95 Jun 2020 #4

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
1. Sports needs a ton of work
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jun 2020

Especially football. There are but a few major college and pro football head coaches who are black. There are only a couple front office heads in the NFL who are black. It's great seeing some black coaches like this guy being given the chance to be strong leaders and heading up big programs.

This is the ultimate Old Boy network, there are so many black candidates yearly getting passed over for whites with barely any experience at all that it's hard to describe. I mean, the Oakland Raiders hired a guy to be their General Manager who had literally zero experience in running any part of a football team at any level, he had a couple years as a player in the NFL, and then he was a TV analyst for the draft, that's it. That guy got one of the biggest jobs in the NFL when there were literally hundreds of black candidates more qualified. Detroit Lions hired a TV analyst to be their GM several years back and he was arguably the worst GM in pro sports history, the guy was a good player, and then was on TV and he got a fat contract to run an NFL team.

The cases of this happening are too many to count. It goes on and on, you've got guys with almost no experience getting the best jobs over and over because they're white. You've got black coaches with decades of relevant experience getting passed over year after year. College is bad too, you've got coaches who've barely been a position coach for a few years getting considered for multi million dollar positions as coordinators or head coaches. The next wonder boy who gets a big job based on a hunch or limited success is almost always some white guy.

And in college when you get a top coach the fan base targets, you can forget about a black candidate even getting a chance. Fanbases become laser focused on 1 candidate and it becomes an exercise in appeasement for the administration to land that coach. Out of the 130 or so D1 Football programs, you've got 14 black head coaches, and only 3 or 4 of them are at schools you'd consider top Football programs.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
5. Good Post!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jun 2020

Lovie Smith is HC of Illinois. But, that's hardly a glamour job. And this was a guy who took a team to the Superbowl! Won his division twice.
And he ended up with a Big 10 bottom feeder.
Amplifies your points.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
6. Mel Tucker at MSU
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jun 2020

Mel Tucker got a job at MSU and his resume is insanely strong, he was in the NFL, a coordinator all over, coached under some of the greats. Yet didn't land his first head coaching gig until last year at Colorado. Here's his resume after he played in college and the NFL:
1997–1998 Michigan State (GA)
1999 Miami (OH) (DB)
2000 LSU (DB)
2001–2003 Ohio State (DB)
2004 Ohio State (co-DC)
2005–2007 Cleveland Browns (DB)
2008 Cleveland Browns (DC)
2009–2011 Jacksonville Jaguars (DC)
2011 Jacksonville Jaguars (interim)
2012 Jacksonville Jaguars (AHC/DC)
2013–2014 Chicago Bears (DC)
2015 Alabama (AHC/DB)
2016–2018 Georgia (DC/DB)
2019 Colorado
2020–present Michigan State

If he'd been white he'd have gotten a HC gig 10 years ago.

Here's Mike Norvell's resume, who just got a job at Florida State, probably a bigger program than Michigan State:
2006 Central Arkansas (GA)
2007–2008 Tulsa (GA/WR)
2009 Tulsa (PGC/WR)
2010 Tulsa (PGC/WR/DR)
2011 Pittsburgh (co-OC/WR/DR)
2012–2013 Arizona State (OC/QB)
2014–2015 Arizona State (AHC/OC/QB)
2016–2019 Memphis
2020–present Florida State

And Norvell was given a chance as a HC at Memphis with 1/5 the big time experience Tucker had a decade ago. The examples are too many to recount. You've got guys being handed the keys with almost no experience when they're white, you never see that with a black head coach, never. You've got guys at places like Oklahoma and Ohio State who handed the keys to guys in their 30s who were just in the right place at the right time, but that right place right time guy is almost never black.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
4. Zoom interview Coach Dino Babers had with local media today...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jun 2020

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Syracuse football coach Dino Babers spoke with local media about moving forward amid the coronavirus pandemic and his recent discussions with his team following protests after the death of George Floyd.


He always controls the interviews in a way that the media knows when to back off and he usually does it with a smile.
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