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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:36 AM Jun 2020

***BREAKING*** Top general apologizes for appearing in photo-op with Trump after forceful removal of

Washington (CNN)America's top general is apologizing for appearing in a photo-op with President Donald Trump after the forceful dispersal of protesters outside the White House last week, saying the move was a "mistake."

Gen. Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff also said that he was "outraged" by the killing of George Floyd and added that the protests it sparked spoke to "centuries of injustice toward African Americans."
"As senior leaders, everything you do will be closely watched. And I am not immune. As many of you saw, the result of the photograph of me at Lafayette Square last week. That sparked a national debate about the role of the military in civil society," Milley, said in a pre-recorded speech to a group of graduates from the National Defense University released on Thursday.
"I should not have been there. My presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics. As a commissioned uniformed officer, it was a mistake that I have learned from, and I sincerely hope we all can learn from it," he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/milley-trump-appearance-mistake/index.html

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***BREAKING*** Top general apologizes for appearing in photo-op with Trump after forceful removal of (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2020 OP
This is YUUUUUGE! NT Kahuna Jun 2020 #1
Trumplethinskin is NOT gonna like that. Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #2
Better late than never, I guess. GoCubsGo Jun 2020 #3
While this does not rise to the level of open revolt Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #4
Hair Furor???? grumpyduck Jun 2020 #31
I couldn't believe how great that speech was. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #5
Ummmm, nope ... unless its repeated before the troops etc. People don't understand how bad it uponit7771 Jun 2020 #6
Repeat it before the troops, then repeat it to 330 million Americans gratuitous Jun 2020 #11
Yep, a flag officer taking a political photo op like that is straight out of Russia or some shit... uponit7771 Jun 2020 #14
+1 llmart Jun 2020 #25
This exactly SledDriver Jun 2020 #36
And that is how it is done Farmgirl1961 Jun 2020 #7
One by one the institutions are standing up to this fascist monster malaise Jun 2020 #8
Trying to play it both ways melman Jun 2020 #9
Shari Lewis and Lambchop!!! leftieNanner Jun 2020 #29
That was a popular GIF on Conservative Cave a while back, except they used Hillary's face on Shari. George II Jun 2020 #54
Exactly. Surprised he didn't toss in "I am not a racist" BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #37
Good...but I don't accept his apology. FarPoint Jun 2020 #10
I agree! young_at_heart Jun 2020 #13
He is doing a clean-up in aisle 6 routine... FarPoint Jun 2020 #15
Milquetoast Lucky Luciano Jun 2020 #30
Hahaha thank you... FarPoint Jun 2020 #46
I can one-up you though! Soochers instead of sutures!! Haha!! Lucky Luciano Jun 2020 #49
Hahaha.. FarPoint Jun 2020 #50
Right !!! uponit7771 Jun 2020 #20
He knew exactly what he was doing. I have a suggestion as to what he can do with his "apology". Autumn Jun 2020 #12
He does not mean it. He can take that apology and stick it where the sun don't shine helpisontheway Jun 2020 #16
He needs to resign and retire from the military. DenverJared Jun 2020 #17
I agree rockfordfile Jun 2020 #35
it's no longer a question of IF trump's stupid stunt backfired mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #18
Can't wait to hear Kayleigh Liar's spin on this mcar Jun 2020 #19
I'm surprised at the angry responses here. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #21
We liberals tend to over analyze situations... FarPoint Jun 2020 #22
Okay, fair enough. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #24
Excellent analysis. scarletlib Jun 2020 #27
me too mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #32
He apologizes for being there. C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #23
OMG - this makes me think there is hope! hopeforchange2008 Jun 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2020 #28
Yes it does, grumpyduck Jun 2020 #33
There is no risk, no sacrifice too great sarisataka Jun 2020 #45
BS He knew exactly . Another pos un-American weasel. I like people that are true rockfordfile Jun 2020 #34
Another nazi-esque "did it but didn't mean it." And Fox will NEVER report the "didn't mean it" part. VOX Jun 2020 #38
He probably also had an "apology" ready for causing the deaths of protestors, if it was needed. BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #39
Thank you General Milley Lucinda Jun 2020 #40
Do guys like Milley usually wear fatigues to the White House, Greybnk48 Jun 2020 #41
No, he was in battle dress aka ACUs obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #51
Thanks. I thought so and shame on him. Greybnk48 Jun 2020 #53
And NOTHING on his lone night walk benld74 Jun 2020 #42
Yup, and still in battle dress ACUs obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #52
WOW! Thank Goodness.. because that was Cha Jun 2020 #43
It was only acceptable response but WTF was he thinking when he did it!! nt BrightKnight Jun 2020 #44
For those who believe Gen. Milley is beyond redemption sarisataka Jun 2020 #47
I wonder at what point did he realise he disgraced himself ? #ETTD OnDoutside Jun 2020 #48

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
3. Better late than never, I guess.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jun 2020

My heart says, "Fuck him and the horse he rode in on." My head says, "I hope he's coming to his senses, and that he's trying to jump off the Trumptanic. Whatever it takes..."

Cirque du So-What

(25,941 posts)
4. While this does not rise to the level of open revolt
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jun 2020

it serves notice to Hair Furor that the military will cease serving as extras in his strutting-ass shit show.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
5. I couldn't believe how great that speech was.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jun 2020

No politics. Oath to Constitution. Not a Republican messenger. Should not have been in Lafayette Square. Need more minority officers.

Again a speech a president should make.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
6. Ummmm, nope ... unless its repeated before the troops etc. People don't understand how bad it
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jun 2020

... was for a general to appear in a political photo op with Trump and not bow up before the pictures were taken or not say something the next day.

Nope ... this general needs to say more and often

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Repeat it before the troops, then repeat it to 330 million Americans
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jun 2020

Then maybe one more time, just so we can see if the lesson has been learned. One taped apology to the National Defense University a week after the fact doesn't cut it. Gen. Milley is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and before June 1 apparently didn't have an understanding of what being in that position means. Are you fucking shittin' me?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
14. Yep, a flag officer taking a political photo op like that is straight out of Russia or some shit...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jun 2020

... now troops have to be extra concerned about decisions being political

llmart

(15,540 posts)
25. +1
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jun 2020

That's the essence of it in one post. You either have a set of core principles that you live by and stand up for even when it's not comfortable, or you wait until you think it's acceptable to jump on the bandwagon when others have come before you and done the right thing from the start.

I guess it's better than nothing, but only just a little.

SledDriver

(2,059 posts)
36. This exactly
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jun 2020

The chairman of the JCS should have enough political savvy to know better, and if he doesn't then shouldn't be in that position.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
7. And that is how it is done
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jun 2020

Taking responsibility, apologizing and being part of the solution. Huge indeed! Let us hope this is a continuing trend and I hope to hell it pisses off Trump and his asshole minions.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
8. One by one the institutions are standing up to this fascist monster
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jun 2020

Five months of fun before he's gone - ridicule the fool!

leftieNanner

(15,121 posts)
29. Shari Lewis and Lambchop!!!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jun 2020

Thanks for the grin this morning. One of my favorites as a child.

And you are correct. He should have know in that moment that it was wrong. Military leaders must make the right call the first time.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
15. He is doing a clean-up in aisle 6 routine...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jun 2020

It's all about him...no sense of true remorse, shock...and let's look...How long did it take him to come up with this milk toast apology?

Lucky Luciano

(11,257 posts)
49. I can one-up you though! Soochers instead of sutures!! Haha!!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

Some years back - That was pretty embarrassing! Such a common word that I heard, but never read and thus had no clue how far off I was!

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
12. He knew exactly what he was doing. I have a suggestion as to what he can do with his "apology".
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jun 2020

It involves a place where the sun does not shine.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
16. He does not mean it. He can take that apology and stick it where the sun don't shine
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jun 2020

He is only apologizing because people criticized him for being there. Why was he wearing camouflage?

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
21. I'm surprised at the angry responses here.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:20 AM
Jun 2020

Yes he knew what was going on and probably felt he had to go, although there have been reports that he slid out of the photo itself. The military is supposed to be non-political, but the guy was between a rock and a hard place.

However, blaming him for what he did is, IMHO, tunnel vision. The bigger part of this is that one more military person -- in this case, the senior active-duty officer -- is protesting the current regime's intent of bringing the military into action in the U.S. That is a huge statement.

Besides, and this may have been an accident, if he had just not gone, no one would have noticed. He could have said he didn't want to, and it wouldn't have made the news at all. But for him to say he was wrong -- that's what the media calls news, and it's made the news: the military says it wants no part of this bullshit.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
22. We liberals tend to over analyze situations...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jun 2020

tend to always fall on side of compassion...to our demise often...So today, I stand with my " Apology Not Accepted"...It was obvious he was fully engaged into the battlefield mode"...He has always understood what that action was all about.. military firing on peaceful citizens...I currently won't make this easy for this one and whoever follows thru on the next assault on American Citizens.

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
32. me too
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

let's not lose sight of the fact that this REALLY makes trump look bad.

Not that he needs any help in that department

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
23. He apologizes for being there.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jun 2020

He really needs to apologize for not doing anything.
I appreciate his small effort but the General proves to be no leader.
I hate these non-apologies.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
33. Yes it does,
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

but at his point he's probably ready to retire anyway.

And things being what they are, he would probably be offered all kinds of jobs and maybe a book deal. So he won't be hurting.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
45. There is no risk, no sacrifice too great
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:42 PM - Edit history (1)

That some posters are willing to let others take

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
34. BS He knew exactly . Another pos un-American weasel. I like people that are true
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jun 2020

I'm watching right-wing Nazis on trial from years ago and he sounds the same with the excuses.

He should quit

VOX

(22,976 posts)
38. Another nazi-esque "did it but didn't mean it." And Fox will NEVER report the "didn't mean it" part.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jun 2020

Which is why this guy’s apology is worthless. It will remain forever buried in the deplorables’ disinformation sources.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
39. He probably also had an "apology" ready for causing the deaths of protestors, if it was needed.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jun 2020

Screw him.
And we have to rid ourselves of the koombaya, hands across the aisle mentality that rightwingers KNOW we have.
The only thing they HAVE EVER DONE when we reach out to them is to pull us down and kneel on our necks.
NO MORE.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
41. Do guys like Milley usually wear fatigues to the White House,
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jun 2020

Or did the fucker do a costume change for the event?

I hope his career is over.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
51. No, he was in battle dress aka ACUs
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:05 PM
Jun 2020

They usually wear dress blues/ASU for meeting folks like a President.

ACUs are worn in combat zones or garrisons, never when meeting someone formally.

So, yeah, he did this intentionally and with premeditation.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
44. It was only acceptable response but WTF was he thinking when he did it!! nt
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jun 2020

I guess it is good that he appears to have drawn the line.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
47. For those who believe Gen. Milley is beyond redemption
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jun 2020

That he should resign or be removed-

Do you believe Trump will appoint someone better to the position of Chairman? Will it be an improvement to remove an officer who admitted a mistake and instead have an officer who, when commanded to put 10,000 active duty troops on the streets, will reply "Zu befehl" click his heels and send the troops out?

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