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Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:04 PM

Once Biden becomes POTUS and we get the Senate

3 things need to happen

1. DC Statehood
2. Puerto Rican Statehood
3. Increase in SCOTUS justices to 11

Yep, Republicans will whine and complain and say the Democrats are trying to build power and the MSM will back them up, but so...nothing is illegal about it and it will be a much needed way of seizing power from the minority Republican Party

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Reply Once Biden becomes POTUS and we get the Senate (Original post)
Proud liberal 80 Jun 2020 OP
Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #1
Proud liberal 80 Jun 2020 #2
lame54 Jun 2020 #3
Proud liberal 80 Jun 2020 #5
lame54 Jun 2020 #11
soothsayer Jun 2020 #4
brewens Jun 2020 #17
Siwsan Jun 2020 #6
zipplewrath Jun 2020 #9
lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #14
zipplewrath Jun 2020 #16
shanti Jun 2020 #19
Amishman Jun 2020 #7
SoonerPride Jun 2020 #8
Proud liberal 80 Jun 2020 #12
Laelth Jun 2020 #10
maveric Jun 2020 #13
eleny Jun 2020 #15
Polybius Jun 2020 #18

Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

1. States have to vote on statehood

You aren't going to get the necessary states to agree to statehood.

Here's what Dems can do to stay in power permanently, protect the right to vote and make voting easy for everyone. And end jerrymandering. Those 2 things would force Republicans to become liberal or case to exist.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

2. Congress votes on statehood

I think you are thinking of adding amendments to the constitution

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:12 PM

3. Dump the electoral college...

AKA republican death rattle

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Response to lame54 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

5. I would love that

But that is harder to do than the 3 things that I laid out

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

11. We choose to do these things not because they are easy but because...

They are hard
Paraphrased

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:12 PM

4. 11. The Spinal Tap SCOTUS!

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

17. I wonder if Harry Shearer would be interested in a seat on the court. :) n/t

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

6. I'd like to see the lifetime appointment to SCOTUS changed to a limited term

Say a 6 or 8 year term (or even 10), with the option of reappointment hearings before the Senate for a 2nd term.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

9. 20 years

That's about 1 generation. Each generation should get their own judges. Most federal judges are appointed in their 40s these days. That takes you to about 60 or so.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:43 PM

14. Too long.

10, tops.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:53 PM

16. closer to original intent

20 years is roughly what was conceived by "lifetime".

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:37 PM

19. Right

I doubt the framers imagined that a SCJ would live to their 80s/90's.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

7. I wouldn't get too carried away, we can only go as far as the 50th senator will take us.

Right now that looks to be Manchin, Tester if we get lucky.

PR statehood might be swingable if PR actually requests it clearly and loudly

DC statehood is probably not a good idea overall and probably too high of a hurdle politically. Its not a state. Its a city. If anything it should be returned to Maryland (as was already done with the VA portion) .

Packing the court is something I am very against. Feels even more underhanded and illegitimate than the republicans dirty games with appointees, would have an extremely high political backlash risk, and essentially makes it OK for whatever party that has control to rewrite the judiciary on the spot to suit their agenda. The last shred of the independence of the judiciary would be lost. Plus I don't think you could get 50 senators for it given the backlash against any purple or red state dems who support it.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

8. If we get control of the senate we can do away with filibuster.

And then admit two new states.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:38 PM

12. Disagree

What Republicans did to Garland was underhanded and illegitimate and this would be correcting that wrong, and correcting the fact that Dems have won the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 elections but Republicans have cheated their way in appointing 4 justices..And “packing the court” isn’t close to underhanded in what we have witnessed with this Administration. There is nothing saying that the SCOTUS has to be 9 justices and has increased/decreased a few times. Democrats need to grow a spine and not worry about the blowback, and unfortunately Democrats like you are going to be reason it’s not going to happen, because you will be counted against it in public opinion polls...if this was wrong then it wouldn’t be in the constitution. And you really think the judiciary is independent now? Please!

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

10. Eliminate the filibuster.

We can’t get anything done until this archaic rule is abolished.

-Laelth

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:40 PM

13. 4. Go after the previous administration.

Gotta happen.

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:47 PM

15. Get rid of the rule where one senator can put a hold on a bill

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Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:35 PM

18. He's opposed to number 3

Not sure if 1 is legal (the capital supposedly can't be in an actual state), be we can work on 2.

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