Peanut butter and jelly is "racist?"

[Archae]

Some idiot school administration thinks so.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/is-peanut-butter-and-jelly-racist_n_1874905.html

[Confusious]

1. I read an article

Where a woman claimed calling the primary hard drive in a computer a 'master' and the secondary a 'slave' was racist.

Sensitivity run amok.

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54. La-La Land

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Los Angeles officials have asked that manufacturers, suppliers and contractors stop using the terms "master" and "slave" on computer equipment, saying such terms are unacceptable and offensive.

The request -- which has some suppliers furious and others busy re-labeling components -- came after an unidentified worker spotted a videotape machine carrying devices labeled "master" and "slave" and filed a discrimination complaint with the county's Office of Affirmative Action Compliance.

In the computer industry, "master" and "slave" are used to refer to primary and secondary hard disk drives. The terms are also used in other industries.

"Based on the cultural diversity and sensitivity of Los Angeles County, this is not an acceptable identification label," Joe Sandoval, division manager of purchasing and contract services, said in a memo sent to County vendors.

"We would request that each manufacturer, supplier and contractor review, identify and remove/change any identification or labeling of equipment components that could be interpreted as discriminatory or offensive in nature," Sandoval said in the memo, which was distributed last week and made available to Reuters.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/11/26/master.term.reut/

[Javaman]

61. I guess she would really hate photographers as well

and how they refer to lights.

[4th law of robotics]

2. Well it really depends on the kind of jelly you use

grape is borderline. You can get away with that if you attend a few sensitivity luncheons.

Strawberry if right out. Raspberry is fine . . . if you're taking it to a cross burning.

Honey is the most socially acceptable topping but it isn't technically a jelly.

/and peanut butter and bananas? May as well grow a hitler-stache and pull on your jackboots right now.

[Confusious]

3. Is using preserves more or less racist?

Inquiring minds need to know.

[wickerwoman]

35. Ageist and sexist.

We need to learn to appreciate the fruit in its natural state and allow it to age gracefully instead of demanding it achieve an unnatural and unhealthy standard of sweetness and beauty.

[Aerows]

16. If I prefer mine

with no jelly or additional topping at all, just peanut butter and bread, what does that mean? Oh, and if I use natural peanut butter instead of Skippy or Jif, does that mean I'm okay if I also attend sensitivity luncheons?

[JHB]

49. It means we're buds! That's how I have 'em.

Wait! You don't use (dramatic intake of breath) white bread, do you?

[OriginalGeek]

68. Reverse racist!

This is why I'm such a sour dough.

[Aerows]

83. :wipes tear: Whole wheat. N/t

My long lost friend ... :moves in for hug:

[4th law of robotics]

64. That displays a concerning willingness to segregate toppings on your part

Forcing Jelly to remain in the "ghetto" of your fridge (which I suppose is dark inside and whitewashed on the outside?).

Natural peanut butter is ok though. Assuming it's crunchy.

[hughee99]

57. PB and Bananas? Elvis Presley, closet racist. n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

76. even more, chunky vs. smooth PB, matters greatly.

[porphyrian]

4. It's because peanut butter was invented by George Washington Carver, a black man...

Ha! I'm just bullshitting; I have no idea.

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56. Not true...

Today I found out, contrary to popular belief, George Washington Carver did not invent peanut butter. The earliest reference to peanut butter being made goes all the way back to around 1000 BC where the Ancient Incas were known to have made a paste out of peanuts. Since then, peanut butter has been “invented” numerous times by various individuals throughout history.

Although Carver didn’t invent peanut butter, he did play a significant role in popularizing it and his 1880 “invention” of peanut butter preceded most of the other modern “inventors” of peanut butter. Carver was one of the greatest inventors in American history, discovering over 300 hundred uses for peanuts with100 or so of those not being related to one another in terms of the end product produced; he also discovered hundreds of uses for soybeans, pecans, and sweet potatoes.
Read more at http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/08/george-washington-carver-did-not-invent-peanut-butter/#KRHXOvU5vZPyTdA3.99

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/08/george-washington-carver-did-not-invent-peanut-butter/

[4th law of robotics]

65. Interesting

that claim never made much sense to me but I never bothered to look in to it.

/we've had peanuts for thousands of years but it took until the 1800s for someone to figure out you could grind them up? Despite the fact that we do that with literally hundreds of other things and have been forever. Sure . . .

[hlthe2b]

78. Well, I will still give the nod to Carver for ensuring my favorite legume was popularized...

and, only the natural form... peanuts ground to a wonderful paste--no sugar, no HFCS, no added oils, nada.

There may be a slight risk that I could die of Aflatoxin from all that natural peanut butter, but I'm willing to risk it.

[kestrel91316]

79. The Incas didn't have peanuts. They are an African crop that came to the new world

with the slave trade.

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80. Take it up with Wikipedia.

It's a crop that has it's origins in South America, was introduced in Africa by Portuguese slave traders, then
brought here.

The peanut, or groundnut (Arachis hypogaea), is a species in the legume or "bean" family (Fabaceae). The peanut was probably first domesticated and cultivated in the valleys of Paraguay.[1] It is an annual herbaceous plant growing 30 to 50 cm (1.0 to 1.6 ft) tall. The leaves are opposite, pinnate with four leaflets (two opposite pairs; no terminal leaflet), each leaflet 1 to 7 cm (⅜ to 2¾ in) long and 1 to 3 cm (⅜ to 1 inch) broad.

The domesticated peanut is an amphidiploid or allotetraploid, meaning that it has two sets of chromosomes from two different species, thought to be A. duranensis and A. ipaensis. These likely combined in the wild to form the tetraploid species A. monticola, which gave rise to the domesticated peanut.[6] This domestication might have taken place in Paraguay or Bolivia, where the wildest strains grow today. Many pre-Columbian cultures, such as the Moche, depicted peanuts in their art.[7]

Archeologists have dated the oldest specimens to about 7,600 years, found in Peru.[8] Cultivation spread as far as Mesoamerica where the Spanish conquistadors found the tlalcacahuatl (Nahuatl = "peanut", whence Mexican Spanish, cacahuate and French, cacahuète) being offered for sale in the marketplace of Tenochtitlan (Mexico City). The plant was later spread worldwide by European traders.

Although the peanut was mainly a garden crop for much of the colonial period of North America, it was mostly utilized as animal feed stock until the 1930s.[9] In the United States, a U.S. Department of Agriculture program (see below) to encourage agricultural production and human consumption of peanuts was instituted in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. George Washington Carver is well known for his participation in that program in which he developed hundreds of recipes for peanuts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut

It is estimated that the Inca cultivated around seventy crop species. The main crops were potatoes, sweet potatoes, maize, chili peppers, cotton, tomatoes, peanuts, an edible root called oca, and the pseudograins quinoa and amaranth. The crops developed by the Inca and preceding cultures makes South America one of the historic centers of crop diversity (along with the Middle East, India, Mesoamerica, Ethiopia, and the Far East). Many of these crops were widely distributed by the Spanish and are now important crops worldwide. Salsa was originated by the Inca people using tomatoes, chili peppers, and other spices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_society

Peanuts were first introduced to the Portuguese slave traders who took them to Africa and elsewhere around the world. African slaves then brought them to the US, which explains why the first names used were of the Congo origin (pindar and goober). But it was not until early in the 20th century that the popularity of the peanut began to soar. In 1904, at the St. Louis World Fair, peanut butter was seen for the first time and promoted as a health food. Children quickly adopted this idea, which should have immediately made parents suspicious. Since then, about half of the peanuts produced in the US goes into making peanut butter. George Washington Carver (1864-1943), a major promoter of the peanut, is credited with developing more than 300 different uses for the peanut. Born to Missouri slave parents, he graduated from the Iowa State College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts (now Iowa State University). He became a research director of the now Tuskegee University, where he experimented with and developed many uses for, the peanut. He continually urged cotton farmers to switch to growing peanuts for a cash crop.
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Peanut Origins:

The common peanut has become so universally enjoyed throughout the world that most people never connect it with South America, its place of origin. The ancient Incas of Peru first cultivated wild peanuts and offered them to the sun god as part of their religious ceremonials. Their name for the peanut was ynchic

Peanut cultivation was also active in Ecuador as well as Bolivia and Brazil. The Brazilian peanut farmers were Indian tribal women who wouldn't allow the men to tend the plants, believing the plants would only produce peanuts under their own care.

http://www.mdidea.com/products/new/new06206.html

[kestrel91316]

86. I'm stunned, lol. My entire life I thought the plant originated in Africa.

[Retrograde]

59. One of the few peanut uses Carver didn't invent

He did invent about a gazillion other uses for peanuts, and essentially remade agriculture in the south, but peanut butter isn't one of his. I have no idea what his stand on PB&J was.

I don't particularly care for the smell or texture of peanut butter myself, but I always thought that peanut butter sandwiches were just a quick, cheap, nourishing meal. I had no idea they were a political statement!

[4th law of robotics]

66. Technically the boll-weevil did that

he was pushing people to get away from just producing cotton for a long time.

And of course he was right. It was bad for the soil and made farmers terribly vulnerable.

But naturally they didn't listen until *after* they were hit by a disaster.

[HappyMe]

5. sigh! Don't people have

better things to do? Honestly they must stay up nights going through everyfuckingthing hoping for something to be 'offended' about.

[Marrah_G]

6. I am so confused

[Jamastiene]

11. Join the crowd.

I had no clue one of my favorite lunch items of all time was racist.

I do wish someone who is offended by the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for racial reasons would explain it to me. I really don't want to offend someone of another race, but PB&J is one of my favorites.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. this hufpo piece is all over the rw blogs

here's a link to the original quote in the Portland Tribune.
Schools beat the drum for equity
http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity

I live here in Portland, and this is the first I've heard of this shameful act of trying to make the kids feel equal

why are you people still reading hufpo?!!?

[Confusious]

12. Teaching PB&J is some sort of "white privilege"

Or thinking it promotes equaltiy is ludicrous.

Peanut butter was invented by a black man, bread has been around so long the Jews have rules about eating it, and I'm sure you could find some example of jelly in every culture.

It shit like this that makes regular people think liberals are wackos too.

Teaching equality is fine, this jumps the shark.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

18. I believe they were talking about it in the context of

inclusion. The article seems to leave out a lot of context.

rather than picking apart what this group is trying to do in the schools, I'm more interested in the fact that as a local I had heard none of this, yet it's all over the rw blogs and huffington post, no where else.

It made me go hmmmmm...

[Confusious]

19. Well if you've never heard of it

How do you know it's out of context?

huffpo is used a lot around here, so throwing them under the bus is a little hard.

Ps. A lot of the article comes from the Portland tribune, so might look a little closer to home there.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. The Portland Tribune?!?!? That's a weekly rag, owned by the same guy who owns

right wing talk radio station KPAM. Tune in for some Neal Bortz!
http://kpam.com/On-Air-Schedule

[HiPointDem]

33. and in a true example of bipartisanship, the democrats at DU jump on the bandwagon.

it's all about denigrating public schools & teachers.

[hughee99]

8. Holy shit, a school that allows peanut butter?

I didn't even think you were allowed to use the word in school anymore.

Today at lunch I'm going to see if I can find a nice veggie Italian sub. The pita I had last week was really good, but it might have been a little anti-Semitic.

[frazzled]

9. They should have called it "culturally biased"

instead of racist. But I get the point.

Back in the late 1990s, when high-stakes exams were introduced in the state I lived in, my volunteer duties began to include tutoring kids who had failed these exams more than once. (Their ability to get a HS diploma depended on them eventually passing it.)

The majority of students in this category were non-native speakers (at that time, predominantly Southeast Asian: Hmong, Vietnamese, Cambodian). I spent 7 months or so with one of my tutees, a Vietnamese girl who had reading difficulties, in addition to an English vocabulary deficit and, admittedly, some attitude problems. But we worked hard all year on the reading, and her attitude--and ability--began to improve. I was really hopeful she might be able to pass this time.

A week or so before the exams were to be administered, the teacher handed me a sample test to work on with her--it was the reading passages and questions used the previous year. My pupil and I sat down together to look at it, and both of our jaws just dropped. The two passages were: a satiric op-ed from a local newspaper, written by a doctor, titled "Lo-Fat Twinkies." The other was a piece describing a "knotty-pine lodge," with all its trappings. I couldn't believe it. I was furious. My student had no freaking idea whatsoever what a Twinkie or knotty pine was. It made her confidence level sink and her fear factor rise immediately. This put her at a huge disadvantage compared to her "American" peers. I felt a near-year's worth of effort had been thrown down the drain.

So I get it. To use PB&J as an example of lunch in a culturally diverse school setting may well be culturally biased.

[Jamastiene]

15. Can they not teach the ones who do not know?

If someone does not know what a PB&J sandwich is, my personal opinion is that they are missing out on something they would probably love (unless they are allergic to peanuts.)

Can they not teach the kids what a PB&J sandwich is? School is for educating. Something as simple as PB&J sandwich would take all of a minute to define for them.

[petronius]

20. I think that was half of the principal's point: to start a conversation with the students

and learn what their PB&J equivalent is. That way, everyone learns something about another culture, and no base knowledge is assumed.

This principal is on the right track, IMO...

[Jamastiene]

50. Good.

I like the idea of learning about each other and integrating with each other. I loved International Day at my college, especially the recipe sharing. Everyone was smiling and talking to each other about something we all need. It was nice to see.

[Jamastiene]

10. Wow! Learn something new every day.

[HereSince1628]

13. I think of PB sandwich as multicultural:

Peanut butter and Kim Chi-oid Vegetables

~1 tbs of peanut butter
Kim Chi-oid Vegetables:
2 c chopped Napa cabbage
2 chopped green onion (white and green)
1 clove garlic minced
1 tbs vinegar
½ t paprika
½ fresh ginger
¼ t crushed red pepper
¼ t garlic powder


Pad Thai PB sandwhich

~1/4 c peanut butter
1 c cooked chicken breast shredded, or 1 c cooked shrimp
2 green onion (white and green) diced fine
2 tbs crushed cashews
1 clove garlic minced
1 t brown sugar
½ t low sodium soy sauce
¼ t Thai hot chile paste
Tiny splash of fish sauce

Optional: 3 finger pinch of fresh bean sprouts

Peanut Butter and Curried Yogurt Sandwich.

~ 1 tbs peanut butter
Yogurt Spread (enough for 4-6 sandwiches):
1 cup Dannon plain yogurt
½ t (or more) of your favorite Curry Powder
A few shakes of sweet Hungarian Paprika


Peanut Butter and Remoulade

2 slices white bread
~ 1 tbs of peanut butter

Remoulade sauce:
½ c mayonaisse
1 tbs mustard
1 leaf small leaf green cabbage very finely diced, ok to substiture collard leaf
1 tbs sugar
1 t apple cider vinegar
1 t dill pickle relish
1 scallion diced, only the white
3 capers smashed then chopped
½ t tumeric (mostly for its color)
Pinch of crushed dried tarragon leaf
Pinch of coriander
Pinch of ground cayenne pepper

[BOG PERSON]

14. PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

[sofa king]

44. Clearly racist!

If Peanut Butter Jelly Time was done by a white guy, it would have been a dancing kumquat.

[guardian]

17. peanut butter and jelly sandwich = white privilege?

For crying out loud.


Here is a more accurate correlation:

Portland School Principal = complete moron

[BOG PERSON]

21. it's not her fault, privilege theory is all the rage now among social-justice types

[GObamaGO]

41. Just what exactly is the definition of a "social justice type"?

I am curious.

[BOG PERSON]

45. upwardly mobile , left-liberal, activism proclivities

[LanternWaste]

48. "Anything and anyone who calls themselves a democrat, yet I still don't like"

" Just what exactly is the definition of a "social justice type"?"

"Anything and anyone who calls themselves a democrat, yet I still don't like" is answer we rarely see, yet applies so much more often than not.

[Scootaloo]

55. You're trying to get a smart answer out of someone...

who thinks bigotry should be acceptable on DU:

It depends, if it is bigotry against an unpopular group that has no political clout within the Democratic Party it should be allowed. If it is bigotry against a group popular within Democratic circles that has political clout within the Democratic Party - then it should not be allowed
4 (33%)
NEDem, BOG PERSON, Scuba, smirkymonkey

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021355119

[BOG PERSON]

70. very true. excellent point.

everything i say is invalid. i support bigotry. big ups to bigots. dont bigot-shame.

[MissMarple]

72. I thought that poll question was tongue in cheek.

Even if it wasn't, even here at DU we have bigotry or levels of intolerance. Some posters are derogatory about people of faith, people seen as having more conservative views than the poster has, people who are wealthy, those who send their children to private schools, people who enjoy participating in horse events, or someone who even doesn't agree with a certain point. Some of the comments on the dressage threads were lamentable. There are many loyal Democrats and progressives who wear designer clothes, but many here can get really snarky when republicans do. And there are many people of all kinds who can be stiffnecked and even belligerent in promoting or defending their views, even when they are generally correct in the progressive sense.

The poll question was over the top, but perhaps the affirmative answers were expressing what they see rather than what they think should be. I think BOG PERSON could have been more diplomatic, but there is a point behind the remarks. I see that crop up all the time in our county party, especially when important elections are close.

[Jennicut]

22. My 7 year old is biased against jelly.

She hates it. Peanut butter sandwiches only for her.

Oh, and this is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.

[Aerows]

23. I am also biased against jelly

And yes, this is one of the stupidest things I've every read, too.

[gollygee]

73. My 10-year-old too.

I, however, grew up almost entirely on PB&J.



LOL

[Tom Ripley]

24. And marmalade is elitist!

[reflection]

25. You can have my PB&J

when you pry it from my sticky hands.

(And my porn. Same sticky hands.)

[Confusious]

27. Ick. Nt

[Nye Bevan]

26. Peanut butter and jelly is emblematic of the worst aspects of white privilege,

evoking slavery, racism, discrimination and hatred.

Shame on anyone who serves it.

[Confusious]

29. Seriously?

I just thought it meant you were poor.

I never get the subtext. I must have tumor or something.

[Marrah_G]

34. pssstttt

you totally need to put in the sarcasm smiley before someone thinks you are serious.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. Huffington quoting the right wing weekly...publisher owns a right wing radio station

as well, so take this story with a grain of Bortz...
http://kpam.com/On-Air-Schedule

[HiPointDem]

31. More education deform fallout. The schools in the article are targeted for closing; the equity

policy is one of the district's tools to raise minority achievement. I don't know if it's a good idea or not, as no real information is given, just a laser-focus on sandwiches. However, I doubt sandwiches are the focus in real life.

As I understand it, the point is: consider the foods students are familiar with when you feed them. Not particularly earth-shattering or worthy of the 4 million denigratory posts on the internet calling Gutierrez a racist.

The real news is here:

Equity training aside, Scott School must teach the same number of students with fewer teachers and resources. Down five full-time positions this year, including two reading specialists, Gutierrez is trying desperately do more with less.

http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity

Of course, huffpo didn't pick up on that, because it's all about painting schools & teachers as nutty places/people whom you don't want anywhere near your kids.

[Quantess]

32. Maybe she is the racist one for suggesting Hispanic kids won't eat PB&J

Hispanic kids don't know what to do with it if it's not a taco, or what?

[FightForMichigan]

36. No, not racist

Just mildly ethnocentric, as in, it's a bit ethnocentric to think kids will bring a sandwich to school for lunch.

Many will.

Some Hispanic kids might bring something with a tortilla - and so might some other kids.
Some Arab kids might bring in something with a pita - and so might some other kids.
And some Arab and Hispanic kids might have a PB&J, too.

Mountain out of a molehill. But I think they were just trying to make the point that what's normal for some isn't normal for all. Big whoop.

[loyalsister]

60. I once met a Jewish woman who grew up in Lousiana

She said that the only time she felt uncomfortable was lunch.

[FightForMichigan]

81. Yes

As a Jew who's visited New Orleans, I believe it!

Shanah Tovah!

[richmwill]

37. My mom used to give me cream cheese and jelly sandwiches...

I would expect this administration to drop in a dead faint if they ever heard that one- a WHITE cream on the jelly???? Gee, I never knew my mom was such a white supremacist, according to them.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

42. Jesus, who doncha just go burn a cross some where, hey? (nt)

[Dr. Strange]

58. Was this your comment:

Meanwhile, students in South Korea are using their math and science skills to create fusion-powered portals to the fouth dimension.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

63. Yes. It was.

[Dr. Strange]

84. It made me laugh.

Then I realized it was true. Then it made me cry.

[Alduin]

38. Um, I think the article went waaaaaay overboard.

[KamaAina]

39. That's ridiculous.

Oreos are racist. But peanut butter and jelly?

[Twofoolsarguing]

77. Even our

Food is racist now.

What has happened to this country ???

[joeybee12]

40. Yes, jelly is, but jam isn't...so have a peanut butter and jam sandwich instead...

Problem solved.

[DreamGypsy]

43. My favorite is peanut butter and bacon

Lots of replies have made the same point, but clearly...

It is better to hold one ethnic food potluck than to curse a million 'racist' foods.

Pete Seeger wrote in his song All Mixed Up:

I like Polish sausage, I like Spanish rice,
and pizza pie is also nice
Corn and beans from the Indians here
washed down by German beer
Marco Polo traveled by camel and pony,
he brought to Italy, the first macaroni
And you and I as well as we're able,
we put it all on the table

There were no red-headed Irishmen
before the Vikings landed in Ireland
How many Romans had dark curly hair
before they brought slaves from Africa?
No race of man is completely pure,
nor is anyone's mind, that's for sure
The winds mix the dust of every land,
and so will woman and man.

I think that this whole world
Soon mama my whole wide world
Soon mama my whole world
Soon gonna be get mixed up.

[silverweb]

46. Overblown poutrage.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I read the whole article and understand what the school district is, commendably, trying to do, and there certainly is a valid point to be made.

Seizing on a couple of words and over-reacting with knee-jerk offense is as stupid as saying that PB&J is "racist."

[Hugabear]

47. Oh for fuck's sake...we have enough REAL problems with racism without making up this bullshit.

There are plenty of examples to show that racism is alive and well in this country. We don't need to make up examples like this.

The only thing this does is give ammunition to the rethugs who claim that racism doesn't exist.

[marshall]

51. Like teaching math with money

I believe she misuses the term when she says it is "racist," or maybe it's the news groups. More likely, she means culturally insensitive.

A few years ago there was a movement to stop teaching math skills by using money or even references to prices of food. The argument wasn't that it was racist, but rather that it was insensitive to the children whose families use food stamps and/or their equivalent in order to buy food.

[Quantess]

69. Au contraire: It prepares kids for a life of hustling on the mean streets.

Teaching math with money is a lot more gritty and real than asking them to learn the pythagorean theorem.

[abelenkpe]

52. Kids are allowed peanut butter in school?!

I thought it was universally banned because someone might have an allergy?

Maybe it's just my kids school....

Prefer peanut butter and pickle anyway....

[backscatter712]

71. That's what I keep hearing.

Peanut butter is banned from a lot of places because there are a few people who are deathly allergic to the stuff - to the point where smelling it triggers a reaction, or the residue left behind from a kid eating peanut-butter then touching something else causes an allergic kid to go into anaphylactic shock. That I can understand.

But PBJ being racist? That's asinine.

[aikoaiko]

82. The anti-PB hype is dying down.

Most schools are taking a more reasonable approach such as having a PB free table.

[jberryhill]

53. No, you need to look at what the lesson was driving at

Nobody thinks "peanut butter and jelly" is racist.

[Javaman]

62. Is this a conspiracy by the Fluffernutter cartel? nt

[name not needed]

67. .

[flvegan]

74. Where is tapenade on the Outrage Scale?

[gollygee]

75. This is of course silly, though I think I get his point

He wants teachers to not assume what an American kid would bring to school for a lunch. American kids come from many ethnicities and hopefully would feel comfortable bringing to school whatever their parents would pack. I don't think it's probably as much about African American kids as about the children of newer immigrants.

The bigger issue with PB&J these days is that a lot of schools won't allow peanuts or peanut butter in the school at all. But that's another flame war for another day.

[muriel_volestrangler]

88. Actually, the principal implied that Americans eat PB&J, and non-Americans don't

The principal ('she', by the way) says:

“Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”

http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity

The way the principal wants to put it, "you" are not Americans. Now, it's possible that some of them aren't American citizens yet. But even if that's true, I'd say that's more divisive in the classroom than assuming people know whatever it was about PB&J sandwiches that came up in a lesson.

[whistler162]

85. Only if you don't eat it with

Salami and Velvetta cheese, a thick from the brick!

[cherokeeprogressive]

87. Would it make a difference if I use Nutella? It's darker and tastes like chocolate. . .