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http://www.salon.com/2012/09/17/romney_obama_voters_believe_that_they_are_victims/Mitt Romney told a roomful of wealthy donors that the people who will vote for President Obama no matter what are, among other things, entitled freeloaders who believe that they are victims.
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what, Romney said at a private fundraiser earlier this year. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That thats an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what These are people who pay no income tax.
Romney's 'cling to their guns' moment http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/09/romneys-cling-to-their-guns-moment.html
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)I don't need to know, and I hoppe he washes his hands afterwards.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)once and for all. Everyone can NOW see EXACTLy why they've been uncomfortable with you. You're a mean asshole racist, just as we all suspected.
Now we know where that smirk comes from.
msongs
(67,405 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I pay a pretty good amount and I'll vote for Obama no matter what.
Either our country provides an economic climate where we have jobs available for people that will pay enough to feed and shelter their families, our our country will have to feed and shelter people. I'd rather the former, as would the people I know who are out of work and on "entitlement" programs. But the Bush economic policy caused a bunch more people to end up on these "entitlement" programs, and now Romney wants to cut the programs while at the same time not just replicating, but expanding the Bush policies that caused the mess in the first place. Uh, no thanks.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)is that wages are so low that such a high percentage are earning little enough to pay no income taxes. There are too many members of the working poor.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)can make $45K and pay no federal income tax with standard deductions. They still pay 11.7% of their income in S.S. and state of Iowa taxes (assuming they are an Iowa resident of course).
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)So a family with three children earning up to $49,000 would pay no income tax, and would get an EITC check.
Very true that $49,000 for a family of 5 isn't much, but the 47% doesn't include only those defined as the working poor.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)for the additional information.
$49k isn't poor, but you'd still have trouble making ends meet at the end of the month with 3 kids.
Oddly I know a lot of people who make less than that, substantially less in some cases, who are planning to vote for Obama.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)From the poorest of the poor all the way up to the 250K per year income bracket, people on average pay 40% of their earning in taxes. Federal taxes are so progressive (weighing lightly on the poor) because most other taxes are not progressive at all.
The interesting thing is that those earning more than 250K per year, on average, pay about 17% of their earning toward taxes. The freeloaders are at the top, not the bottom.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)under you and the Republican.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Where can we give this guy direct feedback without being caught up on a donor request page?
And are there bigger victims than these whining corporations, poor little rich people, and teabaggers? Let's not forget the religious right who think that everyone else is prepping the arena and the lions for them.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Calling people freeloaders does not expand your base.
tanyev
(42,553 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the waterlogged S.S. Mittanic for good.
Bye, bye, Willard. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.
Cha
(297,196 posts)"Cling to their God and guns"..but, whose is more accurate?
Edit: Swapped whose for who's..
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Now shut the fuck up and go back home, wherever that is, you jackass.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)(which is much closer to where I fit, to be honest)
Or we are living off government hand-outs.
They can't really make their minds up about us.
The fact is that we are among all income groups, just like Romney-voters are.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)these same people omit the fact we pay taxes on gasoline, food, and sales tax, which is a LARGER part of our incomes.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)The sales tax sure hurts joe sixpack more than it ever would romney