John Bolton: Pence was a 'consistent ally' and equally 'stunned' by some Trump actions

[applegrove]

John Bolton: Pence was a 'consistent ally' and equally 'stunned' by some Trump actions

MAUREEN GROPPE | USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/21/john-bolton-book-describes-vice-president-mike-pence-alley/3232696001/

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WASHINGTON – Former National Security Adviser John Bolton mercilessly criticizesPresident Donald Trump in his new book but writes that he had a White House ally in the vice president.

From China and Russia to Syria and Venezuela, Bolton and Vice President Mike Pence wanted to take hard lines against oppressive regimes while Trump sought to cut deals and appease totalitarian leaders, Bolton says in his memoir scheduled for release Tuesday.

“As Vice President, Pence maintained the strong views on national security that he’d had during his years in the House of Representatives, and I regarded him as a consistent ally,” Bolton wrote in “The Room Where it Happened: A White House Memoir.”

Bolton argued for keeping Pence on the 2020 ticket when Trump asked if he should replace him with Nikki Haley, the former United Nations ambassador.

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[elleng]

1. 'Bolton argued for keeping Pence on the 2020 ticket when Trump asked if he should replace him

with Nikki Haley.'

[applegrove]

2. I know. I keep wondering if it would happen at the convention. I don't know

if it still could. One thing for sure, Trump is not going to blame himself for the issues his campaign is facing.

[Grasswire2]

3. LOLOL

Narcissist not gonna like this.

[Lucinda]

4. Thanks Bolton. That means Pence covered up the evil too.

These "smart" guys really aren't all that smart...

[rusty quoin]

5. At least Pence thought for himself.

[herding cats]

6. Don't believe Bolton here.

He's 100% a partisan who has applied no blame for anything which has taken place under Trump on anyone other than Trump and the Democrats.

He's extending a parachute to Pence incase Trump wins a second term and is subsequently successfully impeached. That's literally all this is.

[dalton99a]

7. +1. Two fucking idiots

[JI7]

8. Who gives a shit . When it comes down to it none of them did anything to try to stop it. If Bolton

had not been fired he would still be there .

There have been people who have spoken out and they have lost their jobs over it. They are the ones we should be listening to .

[greyl]

21. Agreed. nt

[herding cats]

9. No. This is Bolton laying groundwork to salvage Pence if he's needed.

Bolton is not a stupid man and he's laying seed and fertilizing it. If Trump were to win a second term, but be removed via an impeachment, he's attempting to give false validity to Pence for his parties sake.

Know whose speaking and what they support.

Oh, and Nikki Haley has zero chance of replacing Pence this cycle. She won't go there and risk her future political aspirations. She's a darling of the never Trumper's and more recent Republicans Against Trump. If she ties herself to him she's sullied with those groups. She's going to bide her time and ride out this storm. She's banking on a reformation in the party where she'll be the star.

[BComplex]

10. Yep. eom

[JI7]

11. Haley supported too much of Trump's BS . She is also overrated and an idiot as bad as Palin

[herding cats]

15. I'm definitely not disagreeing here.

I'm just explaining her future role in the new fantasy GOP pool.

We won't like them either. Their planned players are hardly better than their previous ones. Their stink spread, as it we're.

[OnDoutside]

14. Firstly, I believe Bolton when he says that about Pence, but this does nothing positive for Pence,

only make him look like an even bigger sleazeball by his outward portrayal of a lapdog.

Secondly, you should have a google on what Never Trumpers say about Haley. She's toast with them, after the last time she stuck her head above the parapet and went all Trumper, clearly gunning for that VP spot.

[JI7]

16. Exactly, I believe everything Bolton is saying but in the end they are both cowards that do nothing

Bolton himself would still be there if he had not been fired.

[herding cats]

17. I follow them on social media, I know what they say.

Not the minions but the leaders. I know what they say.

I'm literally speaking of those who formed the Lincoln Project. Watch, see, I'm not wrong here.

They're playing a long game assuming we're not paying attention. Pay attention.

[OnDoutside]

19. I follow them too, and that's who i am referring to. I believe they were holding out hope for her,

but the last time she stuck her head up (at the end of last year), she went all Trumpy (I think to butter Trump up for the VP spot). She called a George Conway tweet "disgusting" and other Lincoln project people like Rick, piled in on her, and then piled in again over her support for the Confederate flag.

[grantcart]

22. There is an upside for Haley. She goes to the front of the pack Jan 2021

She will argue to the NT that she did it to try and control Trump's wild streaks.

[BlueMTexpat]

23. She will also stress how

"concerned" she was by them.

[Guilded Lilly]

12. An ally of a self-serving, warmonger bastard is not exactly... a

Person to be respected, trusted or admired as an ally to us.
They are both lying jackasses.

[applegrove]

13. Yes they are. I thought the confirmation about Trump wanting Haley was

intetesting. And that Pence is a warmonger.

[JI7]

18. How about the 25th Amendment ? Were they too cowardly to do anything with that ?

It's all talk.

i have no doubt they expressed their opinions but when Trump continued with the bs and corruption they did nothing to stop it. Bolton is only gone because he was fired.

[grantcart]

20. Now it's going to be Trump/Haley bye bye Pence

[blueinredohio]

24. I call bullshit.

If Pence thought things were so bad he could have talked to republican senators and invoked the 25th amendment. He could have convinced a few republican senators to vote yes and have him removed. When the impeachment hearings were going on he could have convinced a few republican senators to vote yes to impeach him but he chose not to do that SO Pence is just as bad as Trump.

[C_U_L8R]

25. Spoken like a consultant protecting a revenue stream.

[JHB]

26. +1

[spanone]

27. So that makes TWO COWARDS.