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Breaking: Well known anti-vaxxer. tennis star Novak Djokovic has tested positive for Covid-19 (Original Post) malaise Jun 2020 OP
Thoughts and prayers Rorey Jun 2020 #1
I'm actually at Zero Fucks. I'll save my energy for those who try not to get sick. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #38
I'm a little past Zero Fucks, actually Rorey Jun 2020 #48
Another arrogant ass. Has he been to the White House? SharonClark Jun 2020 #2
I don't know but we can hope malaise Jun 2020 #4
No worries. His self immunity will kick him to heal him. dreamland Jun 2020 #3
Maybe he'll get 3/4 of the way to dead and destroy his lungs and be REALLY healthy nt coti Jun 2020 #8
LoL dreamland Jun 2020 #37
Couldn't have happened to a better person. Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #5
This delight I keep seeing here at others being potentially ill from a horrid illness is really ugly Tipperary Jun 2020 #22
Anti-vaccers are a danger to everyone around them. Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #25
All I can find about his "anti-vax" views is that in April he said he did not want to be forced to Tipperary Jun 2020 #28
I think you're trying too hard to free him of a label that he gave to himself. Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #35
Excellent post malaise Jun 2020 #36
None of this explains being delighted at someone's diagnosis. Tipperary Jun 2020 #39
He's also been organising a tournament with a close crowd, and basketball for the players muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #56
Well, everyone seems happy that someone they do not like has tested positive. Tipperary Jun 2020 #58
Definitely not my fav tennis player awesomerwb1 Jun 2020 #6
He is the king of gamesmanship malaise Jun 2020 #41
Some essential oils will clear that COVID-19 right uo PTWB Jun 2020 #7
I'm not sure what being an anti-vaxxer has to do with him testing positive since there is no vaccine MiniMe Jun 2020 #9
Many anti-vaxxers believe in herd immunity nt malaise Jun 2020 #12
Well, they're idiots. But in this case, it doesn't make a difference MiniMe Jun 2020 #14
He Did Specifically Say He Would NOT Take A COVID Vax... ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #42
I heard that interview, and you're wrong. He didn't say he wouldn't. cwydro Jun 2020 #51
Parsing Words, C ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #52
Well, no one will force me into saying what they want me to say either. cwydro Jun 2020 #53
He Didn't Refuse ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #55
I'm not a mind reader. cwydro Jun 2020 #57
I only know one anti-vaxxer personally... llmart Jun 2020 #19
Not my friend Polybius Jun 2020 #32
Karma! BlueMTexpat Jun 2020 #10
A friend of mine has a new name for him malaise Jun 2020 #26
... BlueMTexpat Jun 2020 #44
Mustard plaster and potato poultice. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #11
Cupping. Aristus Jun 2020 #13
Oooh. An entire series of photos! Different "treatments" Solly Mack Jun 2020 #15
ROFL malaise Jun 2020 #16
He could bring laughter to a world in need. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #17
Every one of the four tennis player who have tested positive played in Djokovic's tournament malaise Jun 2020 #43
Ha! Heh. Bad, really. I know. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #46
Lolz.... OnDoutside Jun 2020 #18
I never heard he was an anti-vaxxer. nt Tipperary Jun 2020 #20
You're clearly not a tennis fan n/t malaise Jun 2020 #21
Yes. I am. Tipperary Jun 2020 #27
It was big news.nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #33
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Jun 2020 #34
Looks like it came out in April. I was rather busy with some other things at the time. Tipperary Jun 2020 #40
If he survives, which seems likely, he might get infected again... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #23
We don't know much about this virus but we do know that malaise Jun 2020 #24
I'm calling it "Trump lung". nt Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #49
He may not even have symptoms. "If he survives." Most peop,e do not die. Tipperary Jun 2020 #31
It would be a shame if he suffered through a cytokine storm... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #50
In his defense, it's not as though there's a vaccine for this PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #29
I know a viscous anti-vaxer who is amazing on Covid Polybius Jun 2020 #30
He's an ass, he held this event, then ran away back home when others tested positive sunonmars Jun 2020 #45
The arrogant ass took it home to his wife malaise Jun 2020 #47
I can only think of one good reason to decline a coronavirus vaccine ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #54

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
38. I'm actually at Zero Fucks. I'll save my energy for those who try not to get sick.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jun 2020

.

I know you are being sarcastic though. 🙂

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Rorey

(8,445 posts)
48. I'm a little past Zero Fucks, actually
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jun 2020

I'm more at the "Serves him right" place.

One of my favorite aunts always said, "What goes around, comes around." I live my life by that.

dreamland

(964 posts)
3. No worries. His self immunity will kick him to heal him.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 09:05 AM
Jun 2020

I hope he gets a bad case of covid so that his body can build a higher immunity count.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
22. This delight I keep seeing here at others being potentially ill from a horrid illness is really ugly
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jun 2020

I do not care for Djokovic, but being pleased at someone having a potentially devastating illness is an odd way to think. What has he ever done to you?

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
25. Anti-vaccers are a danger to everyone around them.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jun 2020

I think the days of assuming that we can't be harmed by other people's bad choices are long gone. The sooner they realize that they are not going to avoid getting infected because they have divine immunity, or when they realize that science does work, the better for everyone.

The only alternative is to provide safe public zones for those of us who are willing to make necessary sacrifices to protect each other.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
28. All I can find about his "anti-vax" views is that in April he said he did not want to be forced to
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jun 2020

take a Covid vaccine. His scenario was purely hypothetical since there IS NO vaccine for covid.

I will go out on a limb here and predict the odds of your coming into contact with Novak Djokovic are just about nil. You have nothing to fear from Djokovic. None of this explains the glee I see in duers when they hear someone they do not like has tested positive.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
35. I think you're trying too hard to free him of a label that he gave to himself.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

He specifically said he was against vaccination. His words: “Personally, I am opposed to vaccination, and I wouldn’t want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine,” he said during a livestream on Sunday

You are interpreting it as meaning, just Covid. When every other news source took it the way he said it. He's against vaccination. Period. An anti-vaxxer. I think I'll go with the interpretation from the numerous media sources.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/novak-djokovic-anti-vaccine-987003/

And, I think it would be obvious to most people that it's not just Djokovic that I'm concerned about. It's all anti-vaccers. Djokovic is just probably more dangerous than most because of his public face. What he says and believes in can reinforce those who believe like him.

Now, there is one instance that I do have a problem with vaccinations. Specifically, I would be wary of any Covid vaccination that comes out this year. It will be politically rushed, so it has a low confidence level in effectiveness.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
36. Excellent post
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:00 PM
Jun 2020

He has publicly stated that he is an anti-vaxxer but I would not take this particular vaccine at this time

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
39. None of this explains being delighted at someone's diagnosis.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jun 2020

Hey, if others’ misfortune makes you happy, well there you are. Happy, happy day for you! No thanks, not for me.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
56. He's also been organising a tournament with a close crowd, and basketball for the players
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jun 2020

he played basketball with 3 others; now 3 of them have the virus. He got a crowd of 4,000 to watch the tennis. He's done pretty much everything he could to spread the virus. And he's asymptomatic, so far.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
6. Definitely not my fav tennis player
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jun 2020

Watched him a few times get "injured" and called the trainer while losing a match only to somehow magically heal when it was convenient for him.

Gave him a few chances but been rooting for his opponent ever since.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
9. I'm not sure what being an anti-vaxxer has to do with him testing positive since there is no vaccine
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jun 2020

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
14. Well, they're idiots. But in this case, it doesn't make a difference
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jun 2020

Because there is no vaccine to get. Unless he is going out and catching Covid on purpose so he can be part of herd immunity.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
42. He Did Specifically Say He Would NOT Take A COVID Vax...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jun 2020

...if one was available.
I wonder how he thinks now.
Maybe they won't get that sick given their fitness, but we don't know yet.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
51. I heard that interview, and you're wrong. He didn't say he wouldn't.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jun 2020

He said he didn't want to be forced to do so in order to travel.

He said he would have to make that decision when it became a thing.

At this juncture, this is a moot point.

At any rate, I can't stand him, but I'm sorry to hear he and his wife are positive. I haven't heard that he's ill though.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
52. Parsing Words, C
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jun 2020

He said he's opposed to vaccines and don't know what decision he made if ATP required them.
To me, that's a no. Otherwise, why equivocate?
If vaccines are a condition of employment, and you would do it, the quick answer is "Yes".

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
53. Well, no one will force me into saying what they want me to say either.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jun 2020

He's a misogynistic ass, but I don't blame him for refusing to answer if he didn't want to.

What a silly argument. Unless something has happened while I've been out working my yard, there is no coronavirus vaccine.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
55. He Didn't Refuse
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jun 2020

He equivocated.
Given the sentence right before that, it's not CT limb walking to call it a no. The only other motivator is money.
He's already rich. So, it's not a non-answer.
He.Meant.No!

llmart

(15,539 posts)
19. I only know one anti-vaxxer personally...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jun 2020

and she has emphatically told me that every one of us will get Covid eventually, so why not get it over with?

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
32. Not my friend
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jun 2020

He is a batshit crazy anti-vaxer, and doesn't take Covid lightly at all. He wears a mask everywhere, and doesn't leave the house except for food or gas. In fact, he was warning me of the potential danger of Covid here in January. Yet his 6 month old daughter is un-vaccinated.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
10. Karma!
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jun 2020

I have never been a Djokovic fan ... and I never will be.

I am only sorry that others also contracted the virus in the events he organized.

Perhaps some lessons will be learned.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
11. Mustard plaster and potato poultice.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jun 2020

Cover the body in the mustard plaster and the mouth with the potato poultice - held in place by tying cloth around head.

Won't help but the photos would be hilarious.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
13. Cupping.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jun 2020

Don't forget the cupping! And the near-drowning in ice-water! That will drive the demons of contagion away! Accompanied by the appropriate prayers, of course...

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
15. Oooh. An entire series of photos! Different "treatments"
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jun 2020

- he could be the poster boy for alternative ways to amuse others while sick.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
43. Every one of the four tennis player who have tested positive played in Djokovic's tournament
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jun 2020

now known as Novaxx Djokovid (stolen from a friend).

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
27. Yes. I am.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jun 2020

I have played since childhood and never miss watching a major tournament. Somehow I have missed this tidbit about him.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
34. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/novak-djokovic-anti-vaccine-987003/

With anti-social distancing protests sprouting up across the country, the COVID-19 deniers are out in full force. Right on the front lines are anti-vaxxers, many of whom have spent the past few months downplaying the risks of COVID-19 or sharing conspiracy theories about the origins of the virus to push the idea of Big Pharma benefiting from a potential future vaccine.

Apparently, among their ranks is tennis star Novak Djokovic, who came out against vaccines in a livestream on Sunday.

During a conversation with several other Serbian athletes, which was broadcast on Facebook on Sunday, Djokovic expressed his concerns about potentially being forced to get a vaccine in the future in order to be able to professionally compete.

“Personally, I am opposed to vaccination, and I wouldn’t want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine in order to be able to travel,” he said. “But if it becomes compulsory, what will happen? I will have to make a decision. I have my own thoughts about the matter, and whether those thoughts will change at some point, I don’t know.”

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Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
40. Looks like it came out in April. I was rather busy with some other things at the time.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jun 2020

Sue me for missing news about Novak Djokovic. As I said, I am not a fan of his.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
23. If he survives, which seems likely, he might get infected again...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jun 2020

... in a few months.

The idea that there's long-term immunity from this contagion is a big ASSumption, not to mention some recent reports from China which should give people pause before they think that's how it works.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
24. We don't know much about this virus but we do know that
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jun 2020

there appears to be long term damage to the lungs. That is certainly not helpful for any athlete

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
31. He may not even have symptoms. "If he survives." Most peop,e do not die.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jun 2020

Testing positive does not mean sick. Djokovic is in superb physical condition, probably the most fit of any professional tennis player out there.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
50. It would be a shame if he suffered through a cytokine storm...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:36 PM
Jun 2020

... like other great athletes who caught it -- e.g., Marathon runners.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
29. In his defense, it's not as though there's a vaccine for this
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jun 2020

that he declined to get.

So his being an anti-vaxxer has zero to do with getting the disease.

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
30. I know a viscous anti-vaxer who is amazing on Covid
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jun 2020

He wears his mask everywhere, and only goes out like once a month (at least before Phase 1 started in NYC) to shop for food. The two don't always go hand and hand.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
45. He's an ass, he held this event, then ran away back home when others tested positive
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jun 2020

He was told to stay until tests was done but nope, he got out of dodge quick and probably infected more people on the way.

He's always been an arrogant ass.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
47. The arrogant ass took it home to his wife
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2594451/asshole-of-the-year-novak-djokovic-and-his-wife-test-positive-for-covid-19-in-the-least-surprising-news-of-all-time
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Asshole Of The Year Novak Djokovic And His Wife Test Positive For COVID-19 In The Least Surprising News Of All Time
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Ah would you look at that? Looks like positive vibes and miracle water couldn't stop the great Novaxx Djokovic from catching coronavirus after his middle finger to the global pandemic tennis tournament the past few weeks. Now listen, I'm not evil, I wasn't rooting for this to happen. I'm in the least bit shocked, but I hope Novak and his wife Jelena make a speedy recovery and learn from this. That being said, WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!

It's truly hard to grasp the incompetence and ignorance this asshole has shown over the last few months, which all came to a head this past weekend. Dude held his own tennis tournament in back to back weekends with zero coronavirus social distancing precautions, full capacity fans, no masks, players flown in from different countries, and of course partying at the clubs after! Global pandemic? Where? Never heard of it.
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Nicholas Kyrgios

@NickKyrgios
Prayers up to all the players that have contracted Covid - 19. Don’t @ me for anything I’ve done that has been ‘irresponsible’ or classified as ‘stupidity’ - this takes the cake.




JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
54. I can only think of one good reason to decline a coronavirus vaccine ...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jun 2020

... if Trump recommends it.

Then, no deal. I'll wait for the next one.

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