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Floyd R. Turbo

(26,546 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 09:21 AM Jun 2020

Man who got 4 years for stealing 4 $15 phone chargers was beaten to death in prison by a CO.

Christopher Howell was less than halfway into a four-year sentence at Lake Correctional Institution, a men’s prison near Orlando, when he died. He was serving time for stealing four phone chargers from a West Palm Beach Target.

He did not die of old age, by suicide or of COVID-19, a disease that has taken the lives of 19 inmates across the Florida prison system.

Howell, 51, was killed at the hands of a corrections officer, who beat him while the inmate’s hands were cuffed, multiple prison sources said.

The brutal beating happened Thursday. The Florida Department of Corrections says he was pronounced dead Friday at an area hospital.

https://apple.news/A2axoXdRQSzy4OL9ILt7wng

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Man who got 4 years for stealing 4 $15 phone chargers was beaten to death in prison by a CO. (Original Post) Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2020 OP
Jesus soothsayer Jun 2020 #1
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jun 2020 #2
More American law enforcement wanting us to believe they're the good guys uponit7771 Jun 2020 #3
The whole system needs to be totally cleaned out, and these thugs put in prison themselves. BComplex Jun 2020 #23
+100000 Celerity Jun 2020 #24
Such a horrible way to die, beaten by an officer after spending years in jail for shoplifting. FM123 Jun 2020 #4
That's Newest Reality Jun 2020 #7
Re: Capitalism and Democracy lonely bird Jun 2020 #11
Thank you! Newest Reality Jun 2020 #13
Your post makes me think of late stage capitalism, The Shock Doctrine and neoliberalism. All c-rational Jun 2020 #26
My god. underpants Jun 2020 #5
He also stole a knife, and mentioned it when stealing the chargers. Lancero Jun 2020 #12
Abolish it all. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #6
k and r...no text Stuart G Jun 2020 #8
Guards vs prisioners safeinOhio Jun 2020 #9
K&R Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #10
his prison time was because he threatened someone with a knife when asked to return JI7 Jun 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author SoCalNative Jun 2020 #20
There are a number of corrections officers in my community BusyBeingBest Jun 2020 #15
The ones who wanted to become actual police officers SoCalNative Jun 2020 #21
There are all kinds of jobs in the prison. murielm99 Jun 2020 #22
I worked with an old guy (over 70) who used to work BusyBeingBest Jun 2020 #25
"multiple prisons in a nearby town." soldierant Jun 2020 #29
Last Sunday, 60 Minutes had a segment on drug addiction. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #16
In prison for stealing four $15 phone chargers - ugh. he is the type of person who should have been iluvtennis Jun 2020 #17
This is so fucked up and SCREAMS prison reform. ooky Jun 2020 #18
Dear God... calimary Jun 2020 #19
This is real. warmfeet Jun 2020 #27
This crap has got to stop relayerbob Jun 2020 #28
Unbelievable barbarism. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #30

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
23. The whole system needs to be totally cleaned out, and these thugs put in prison themselves.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jun 2020

It's way past due.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. That's
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 09:31 AM
Jun 2020

That's capitalism. It demands its own kind justice. It resorts to extreme violence when it can, and we have seen that historically. And yet, it remains a shibboleth in our culure.

It has a strong dislike for democracy. You could say they are actually enemies and you either get one of the other, or at least that's what it comes down to eventually.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
11. Re: Capitalism and Democracy
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jun 2020

Capitalism prefers democracy at the start so private property laws can be written. It is much easier, imo, to view the relationship between capital and democracy as that of regulatory/legislative capture. Once Capitalism is in place it favors autocracy. Timothy Snyder talks of the politics of inevitability some of which means, as I understand it, that certain theological philosophies regarding political economy are deemed as “the only way”. It is also called T.I.N.A., There Is No Alternative. This is what we have been operating under since the election of Reagan. Btw, I used the term “theological” deliberately. Economists suffer from Physics envy. Econ9mists hold onto their philosophies as though pronouncements from deity.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
13. Thank you!
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jun 2020

I am a bit too tired to go into detail much about the subject, so thank you for that clear and concise overview. It hits the spot.

We really need to go into the depth of our systemic issues more and maybe DU is a good place to do that. It is highly topical and the critical nature of it is now more evident.

Appreciated. I hope people get to read that.

c-rational

(2,593 posts)
26. Your post makes me think of late stage capitalism, The Shock Doctrine and neoliberalism. All
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jun 2020

poor ways to run a just society.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
5. My god.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jun 2020

The whole thing seems like a nightmare.

I’m guessing Howell had some priors or something. Still, 4 years? This guard sounds like an enforcer and the guard culture must be out of control.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
12. He also stole a knife, and mentioned it when stealing the chargers.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jun 2020

So that bumped petty theft up to aggravated assault. Didn't use it on anyone.

Meanwhile the officer who beat him to death had a history of use of force complaints, but threats on part of other officers working with him kept them from going anywhere so he was allowed to stay on the job.

Honestly, the wrong person was behind bars. Given the reports coming out of that prison, this officer wasn't the only one.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
14. his prison time was because he threatened someone with a knife when asked to return
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jun 2020

the things he stole.

But this is still wrong and fucked up. the story also mentioned at least one other officer that witnessed the beating but did nothing. this person should also lose their job and never work in law enforcement again.





Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
15. There are a number of corrections officers in my community
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jun 2020

because of multiple prison facilities in a nearby town. I always wonder what sort of person is drawn to that line of work. You couldn't pay me enough to do it. But obviously it attracts some real sadists.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
22. There are all kinds of jobs in the prison.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jun 2020

They may not necessarily work as officers or guards.

I know a few who work or have worked at a nearby prison. One was a friend of the family. The job wore him down completely. He ended up with a heart problem because of the stress. He was able to retire with a full pension.

When he was on the job, he had a hard time even laughing. I showed him the website, "My cat looks like Hitler." He laughed uproariously. It was the first time I had heard him laugh like that in years. I was so glad to be able to lift his spirits.

Knowing a few of these people, I know that we have to train them and be sure that they have continuously upgraded training and dialogue about the job. We can do better.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
25. I worked with an old guy (over 70) who used to work
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:50 PM
Jun 2020

as a transport guy for corrections--drove a bus back and forth between facilities. He didn't do it very long, had some bad/scary incidents. It's probably a lot of turnover in that field I'm guessing.

soldierant

(6,874 posts)
29. "multiple prisons in a nearby town."
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jun 2020

And there you have it. Proximity is a big part.

So is not being able to find other work.

But each prison is different from every other prison (though there certainly arre some commonalities.) We know this prison is in Florida, And we assume it's a state prison. We don't know whether it's a public or a private prison. And I don't know whether Florida has any private prisons - nor, if they do, how conscientiously they supervise them.

In fact, the more I know about some prisons, the less I know about prisons in general.

I do know that in no prison would this behavior by the CO be justified, and that it was homicide. And I hope there will be appropriate consequences.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
16. Last Sunday, 60 Minutes had a segment on drug addiction.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jun 2020

They interviewed a man whose father was sentenced to 60 years in prison (!) for drug possession because of the third-strike law. His son described him as not violent in any way, just addicted to drugs. The War on Drugs as practiced in the US has been an enormous waste of money and it needs to be dismantled as a total overhaul of our criminal justice system. Drug addiction is a health issue that if treated early and effectively need not lead to criminal actions by addicts. And while we’re at it, let’s get rid of private prisons and retool prisons with rehabilitation programs that help all but the most violent and mentally ill return to society without the enormous recidivism that our prisons encourage.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
17. In prison for stealing four $15 phone chargers - ugh. he is the type of person who should have been
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:09 AM
Jun 2020

when the Covid outbreak started.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
18. This is so fucked up and SCREAMS prison reform.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jun 2020

The prison conditions in this country almost assure that any sentence for any crime could be a potential death sentence once you get to the prison. A society that calls itself civilized can't sentence people to prison if they can't protect their lives when they get there. This should make every decent human being want to vomit.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
27. This is real.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

Not a test.

Outrageous, amiright?

Complacency, it's what got us here.

To be blunt, we are going to have to fight like hell - not just for our rights, but for our very lives.

Don't think so? Give it a little time.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
30. Unbelievable barbarism.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:43 AM
Jun 2020

Christopher Howell looks like the poster child for someone who needed social services, not jail. But Florida sent him to jail over $60. How can that even be Constitutional? Isn't that cruel and unusual punishment considering the minor offense?

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