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Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:02 PM Jun 2020

An Opinion About Lincoln Project Ads - - Why So Effective..

....The reason these ads are so effective is that the people who make them, know that Trump is the worst president ever. These film makers want to save this country that they love. The film makers want these ads to be as close to "perfect" as possible. It doesn't look like it, but they spend a lot of time on each ad to make it just right. The Lincoln Project knows what is at stake in November and so do we. We must save the U.S.A., and these ads will help. We need all the help we can get. Thank You Lincoln Project for your ads.

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An Opinion About Lincoln Project Ads - - Why So Effective.. (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2020 OP
Overall I agree, but I think the main reason they are so effective HotTeaBag Jun 2020 #1
"Zero fat, straight hammering viciousness"...Your words. That is what it takes. Stuart G Jun 2020 #9
Master Class evilhime Jun 2020 #18
Absolutely. These are temporary allies Cyrano Jun 2020 #20
That is my Rebl2 Jun 2020 #27
Where did they learn this skill? Nasruddin Jun 2020 #24
Good points, but.......... MyOwnPeace Jun 2020 #2
Let me say this Avid Leftist Voter Jun 2020 #3
Avid Leftist Voter...It looks like you're new to DU..... Upthevibe Jun 2020 #10
Welcome to DU! bdamomma Jun 2020 #16
They stand alone, but aren't independent Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #4
Long story short GusBob Jun 2020 #5
They are effective because they come out fast and they attack Trump where he's weakest The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #6
As Someone Below Said, They're Good At It ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #15
I agree..."Fast, Where Trump is Weakest, and What bothers him the most" Stuart G Jun 2020 #30
That's all true. But I think what makes them the most effective is that they come from Republicans StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #7
Plus Rs just do these kind of ads better than DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #8
Stuart G..... Upthevibe Jun 2020 #11
It is the Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #12
Yes, "It is the simplicity of the Ads"...Thank You..A person does NOT need to be brilliant to...... Stuart G Jun 2020 #14
Agreed. They know their two target audiences, and we Dems are not it. I thank them wholeheartedly... Hekate Jun 2020 #13
They don't pull their punches Leith Jun 2020 #17
While I'm sure there is an element of ... Whiskeytide Jun 2020 #19
The LP is Jamaal510 Jun 2020 #32
Reason For Effectiveness? JGug1 Jun 2020 #21
There's that too, but this is a family war for them, which makes it extra personal. The likes of OnDoutside Jun 2020 #29
I love that they're doing it. mountain grammy Jun 2020 #22
Yeah, but Biden's campaigns needs to counter with positives ... Auggie Jun 2020 #23
They have been perfecting such ads on Democrats for Decades. Gore1FL Jun 2020 #25
"...Lincoln Project Ads - - Why So Effective.." LudwigPastorius Jun 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jun 2020 #28
Republicans do viciousness well dlk Jun 2020 #31
 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
1. Overall I agree, but I think the main reason they are so effective
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jun 2020

is because of how quickly they cut to the chase and the manner in which they communicate the message.

Zero fat, straight hammering viciousness. Wilson has been doing this for years.

They have a podcast as well - very much worth listening to.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
9. "Zero fat, straight hammering viciousness"...Your words. That is what it takes.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jun 2020

..Meeting Trump head on with "straight hammering viciousness" An expert ad maker at the helm. And quick and to the point. Thank You for your comment. And it is obvious that Wilson is a patriot too..

evilhime

(326 posts)
18. Master Class
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jun 2020

Remember these are republican strategists who have used these same tactics against Democratic candidates. We are being afforded a master class in how to do it, and we need to learn these lessons well, because I have no doubt they will all go back to being republicans once PINO is gone.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
20. Absolutely. These are temporary allies
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jun 2020

We've got to admire their talent at destroying their enemy. If only we Dems had some of their ilk.

If/When Joe wins, these people will once again become our political foes. And they will attack our next Dem nominee.

Dem operatives, take note or hire people as brilliant as these conservative operatives.

Rebl2

(13,507 posts)
27. That is my
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 04:58 PM
Jun 2020

thought too. They are R.’s and will start bashing Joe after he is in office (if he wins) after a certain amount of time.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
24. Where did they learn this skill?
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 04:45 PM
Jun 2020

They learned it from Democrats! And as others have pointed out, it's not like it's an ancient skill lost in the shadows of time - ask Jim Carville, too.

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MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
2. Good points, but..........
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

I think the "Duh!" moment for viewers is when they realize it is not the Dems or the "lame-stream" media that's doing them - but Republicans - you know, the ones who "nominated and supported" this horse's a$$!

No matter where the "resistance" comes from - it's a good thing and we must take it for all it's worth!

3. Let me say this
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jun 2020

It is heartwarming to hear conservatives getting on this man and knowing who he really is. This guy is a moron. He can't even sit up straight. I have something radical to say about him: I hate him. I would not say this about Scott Walker, John Kasich, Ben Carson, or most other Republicans. This man has some real problems. The people who make them know that he is the worst president. He is a historical accident.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
10. Avid Leftist Voter...It looks like you're new to DU.....
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jun 2020

Welcome

I love your comment "historical accident." That's awesome!!!

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
16. Welcome to DU!
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jun 2020

we are like family here, we have our squabbles too, but we are the best.

He is not only a historical accident, he is a criminal thug.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. They stand alone, but aren't independent
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jun 2020

These ads are so personal to Trump, they build off from one another to invoke a response.

I tell you, they ran an ad on his health and bought time on FOX News in DC knowing Trump would see it and react, and he did, he spent a half hour at his rally proving he could walk and hold a glass. It is brilliant and ruthless and these guys are killing it.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. Long story short
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jun 2020

They are the easiest ads in the world to make. Trump is a self made foil

They basically write themselves, these ads

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
6. They are effective because they come out fast and they attack Trump where he's weakest
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jun 2020

and with regard to things that bother him the most.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
15. As Someone Below Said, They're Good At It
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jun 2020

No wonkiness, no needless details the general public can't process.
Simple points, hammered home, with obvious derision.
The days of "getting along" are gone. At least for now.
Grind them into the dirt, get them to minority political status, by any means available.
Once they're marginalized we can go back to conciliatory.
But, with them, conciliatory while they have any power is pointless.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
30. I agree..."Fast, Where Trump is Weakest, and What bothers him the most"
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jun 2020

Thank You for your opinion. Yes..!!!!

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. That's all true. But I think what makes them the most effective is that they come from Republicans
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jun 2020

Democrats scorching Trump is nothing new. Republicans going after him hammer and tong is a bfd.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
11. Stuart G.....
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jun 2020

Thank you for your post. I complete agree with you. I welcome and appreciate these ads....

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. It is the
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jun 2020

simplicity of the Ads. These are aimed specifically towards the Bubba and Karen Crowd.

Senator Wellstone used these type of Ads to destroy Colman and Boschwitz. Remember the "Where is Rudy" and Where is Norm. Same Agency who did the Golden Pump Chicken Ads.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
14. Yes, "It is the simplicity of the Ads"...Thank You..A person does NOT need to be brilliant to......
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jun 2020

understand exactly what is being said. That is another sign of outstanding ads. These ads get right through to the point. Not a complicated message. Simple and clear..Thanks again for the addition of the the idea, "simplicity"

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
13. Agreed. They know their two target audiences, and we Dems are not it. I thank them wholeheartedly...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

...for their endeavors.

Targets: Trump's thin skin, and Republicans. Not Democrats or anyone on our spectrum.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
17. They don't pull their punches
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jun 2020

So many times, I have watched ads put out by Democrats that are so wussified and dull that it makes me scream. It's time our side went for the jugular.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
19. While I'm sure there is an element of ...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jun 2020

... altruistic love of country for many of them, don’t forget that these republicans overall support republican policy. I think they see a huge backlash to Тяцмр In the coming years, and fear his legacy will be to put republicans out of power for a long time. THAT’s what they are fighting against. Better to cut him off at the knees now than risk another four years of this shitshow waking up American voters to their policy goals.

And they can go low with little consequence. They don’t have to also explain WHAT they would do differently, and how they would govern differently. Dem politicians have to be careful about not going too negative to keep the middle in play. The LP is able to pull out the sharp knives and start carving.

I appreciate what they are doing. But just keep in mind that you would be unlikely to vote for a single one of them for any office.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
32. The LP is
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:30 AM
Jun 2020

ran by people who know what they're doing, that's for sure. Considering that they're still R's at heart, it's a little unnerving to contemplate how they'd conduct themselves in the future. They support our side now, but they could easily make some hard-hitting ads against us in the near future. I wish they were more than just temporary allies.

JGug1

(320 posts)
21. Reason For Effectiveness?
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jun 2020

You have it wrong. The reason that they are so biting (effective) is that they are being made by Republicans. Republicans know how to play dirty. Democrats don't. These ads *almost* make me feel sorry for Trump....Note the *almost*. They are as close as I have seen to Trump mocking the journalist. GOOD.
Everyone can recall what happened to the protagonist in "Clockwork Orange," correct? Trump gave to his father what he may get. He has certainly earned it.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
29. There's that too, but this is a family war for them, which makes it extra personal. The likes of
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

Wilson, Reed etc have taken unreal levels of nastiness from Trumpists, and are giving back every bit as hard. Someone suggested earlier that post Trump, they'll go back as Republicans, but I don't believe they will. There will be a bitter hatred for them, with what's left, and vice versa. They're not going to become Democrats but will look to forge a new Conservative party, where I suspect they will try to slice off the "reasonable" Republican voter from the nutjobs.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
22. I love that they're doing it.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jun 2020

Mean, vicious Republicans, but I won’t contribute..my money goes to Democrats

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
23. Yeah, but Biden's campaigns needs to counter with positives ...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jun 2020

its one thing to attack another brand for being bad, but you need to promote what's good about yours.

Well-paying green jobs, health insurance reform, education, yada, yada, yada ...

LudwigPastorius

(9,145 posts)
26. "...Lincoln Project Ads - - Why So Effective.."
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jun 2020

I imagine Rick Wilson has a lot of input on the ads. He's a funny & intelligent guy.

Too bad he's a motherfucking Republican.

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