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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFeds: Noose Found In Bubba Wallace's Garage Had Been There Since At Least October
Last edited Tue Jun 23, 2020, 06:24 PM - Edit history (1)
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/feds-noose-found-in-bubba-wallaces-garage-had-been-there-since-at-least-octoberThis is actually a good thing.
One was that it was an honest mistake and not an act of racism.
And two that the reaction was to come together against racism.
And since people want to comment without reading the article:
The statement said the garage stall was assigned to Wallace last week in advance of the race scheduled for Sunday but held on Monday because of rain. Through video confirmed by NASCAR it was discovered the noose had been was in that garage as early as October 2019.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)tman
(983 posts)drray23
(7,629 posts)Like, oh darn I misplaced my noose a few months ago, my bad.
When is it appropriate to place a noose in a black person house or garage? Answer: never.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:25 AM - Edit history (1)
a door pull that has been there for a year. Before it was Wallace's garage.
Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)edhopper
(33,579 posts)Bubba Watson is a golfer.
Do you see the mistake you made?
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)why bring a noose anyway? Who just carries them around?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)So many people do... and most knots, nooses included, can be tied in under three minutes.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)edhopper
(33,579 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:29 PM - Edit history (1)
tied in a way that looks like a noose. Last year, before Wallace was there.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)Was skeptical about this as well so I went off to google image search.
This is at Daytona, a different track. Look in the upper left, you can see two noose like loops hanging on the two nearest doors
This really does seem to have been a bizarre case of accidental noose-like object sighting.
https://www.daytonainternationalspeedway.com/~/media/74FF896E5A414728A262C9F423817763.ashx
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)We are all very stressed. Crazy times.
BKDem
(1,733 posts)Could we see a picture please?
Pardon my skepticism, but we're in the middle of a fascist takeover of our democracy.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)The claim is the 2020 one is after they cut it to be taken as evidence.
underpants
(182,803 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)That looks even less like a noose. Apparently it wasn't even the driver 'Bubba' who found it, aye?
brush
(53,778 posts)One doesn't need to create a door pull in such a complicated knot as a noose.
Again, not buying it.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)from 2019
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)No way entire NASCAR community freaked out over the rope pictured.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 25, 2020, 08:38 PM - Edit history (1)
And that would not be the knot to tie on a door pull.
Looks like someone who works there knows how to tie a bowline. Which is a knot everyone should know and it the perfect knot for a door pull.
Some times a knot is just a knot.
On edit: Ive now seen a better photo of the rope. Or a different one. Doesnt matter.
Definitely a hangmans noose.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)bowline as well.
demmiblue
(36,853 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The one I saw was a bad photo or a different rope. But this is definitely a Hangmans noose.
Im a southern man. There is only one reason that was tied. Racism. Flat out.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Maybe it was tied as some sort of sick joke a year ago, before Bubba got there.
But if it's a joke, it's not funny. And Bubba had no way of knowing whether that was put there a year ago or five minutes ago, so he did the right thing and reported it.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)Why was there a fake noose in the garage in the first place (maybe not relevant but troubling to me)? Why was it left there? How are these garages assigned? Was it Bubba's first time in the garage?
I find it very strange this happened after he spoke out for racial equity and got NASCAR to ban the confederate flag which led to a defiant confederate flag flyover.
So many unanswered questions. I guess we should take Barr's DOJ and NASCAR's word for it. Case closed.
lastlib
(23,233 posts)From what I can see, it looks more like a barrel knot--which is a reasonable choice for a door pull. It can be tied so as not to slip, and makes a loop you can easily get your hand into to pull it like a lanyard. Not necessarily anything nefarious.
brush
(53,778 posts)always associated with hangings. Still makes one wonder though that this happened right after Nascar banned the confederate flag. The knot being suddenly something other than a noose sure let's them off the hook.
demmiblue
(36,853 posts)lastlib
(23,233 posts)ecstatic
(32,704 posts)little credibility when it comes to investigating hate crimes.