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JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:49 PM Sep 2012

(Kinda) rare deer in my back yard today.

(X referenced from Photography forum for wildlife lovers)

Though I live in the business area of a small town, I have a creek that runs behind my house, so it's not unusual to see deer grazing in the back yard.

Today I saw one and began scouring the tree line for what I expected to be more. I saw some rustling, and got my binoculars for a better view. When I realized what I was looking at, I ran to get my camera.

By the time I got ready and sneaked out the side door what I think are mother and doe emerged into the yard. The little one is a relatively rare piebald deer, one with a recessive gene that causes partial albino-ism:



The larger one that I believe to be the mother, heard me and kept a weary eye my way, even though I only had my upper body out the door and zoomed in 20X. Here she decided I wasn't going away and took the initiative herself:



The piebald fawn seemed more aloof and stuck around a bit as if to see what all the fuss was about:



Then it finally went off to be with mom:



Surprisingly, the first deer that I saw came back out to take one more pass through the yard. I don't know for sure, but I think this is an older sibling to the piebald:

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(Kinda) rare deer in my back yard today. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 OP
Cool! elfin Sep 2012 #1
creek and deer in the backyard? Love your back yard! Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #2
The creek is in a ravine just beyond that tree line JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #14
How beautiful! Texasgal Sep 2012 #3
Great photos! treestar Sep 2012 #4
awesome! thanks for sharing. K&R Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #5
Thanks for snagging your camera!!! blaze Sep 2012 #6
Beautiful! AzSweet Sep 2012 #7
We spotted a full albino faun up in the Michigan UP DonP Sep 2012 #8
Wow, what great pictures! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #9
THank you so much for sharing DonRedwood Sep 2012 #10
I've never heard of piebald deer before. Brigid Sep 2012 #11
Ooh, I love these pictures! a la izquierda Sep 2012 #12
Beautiful! We only have white tailed deer here in Michigan catbyte Sep 2012 #13
NE Ohio JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #15
Very cool! We have an albino male in my neighborhood...or at least used to - NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #16
This is so wonderful! littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #17
AFAIC... RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #18
You must be all kinds of fun at parties. Brigid Sep 2012 #25
what are parties? n/t RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #27
It's even worse than I thought... Brigid Sep 2012 #28
He's beautiful. kurtzapril4 Sep 2012 #19
A friend who hunts told me it's bad luck to shoot one. JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #26
I think Albinos are bad luck - piebald...fire! hexola Sep 2012 #35
A piebald would have the edge I think. JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #39
We saw a deer like this at our local state park in North Carolina a couple years ago... mike dub Sep 2012 #20
Good catch, will be posting a photo of an occupier hawk nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #21
Living out in the country rural area is great. You get to see so many animals. Sometimes southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #22
If you see a whole herd of these,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #23
Very nice pics, interesting! I think you are right about mother and offspring. DrewFlorida Sep 2012 #24
Beautiful, I love the albino crosses. uppityperson Sep 2012 #29
Thank you so much for sharing these pictures Samantha Sep 2012 #30
Talk about being in the right place Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2012 #31
Hey, that's my backyard and we have those deer! They have been sighted here in rural PA. kittykitty Sep 2012 #32
Is it just me, or does the piebald emmadoggy Sep 2012 #33
I read where they do indeed have shorter legs. JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #40
They seem suddenly more common around South Central PA hexola Sep 2012 #34
Hey, what are you doing here? kittykitty Sep 2012 #37
even though i've had chronic Lyme laruemtt Sep 2012 #36
awesome - thx for sharing BadGimp Sep 2012 #38

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
14. The creek is in a ravine just beyond that tree line
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:03 PM
Sep 2012

It's Walnut Run Creek, and feeds into Mosquito Lake (How do you like that, tourists?) near this small city of 6,500.

A lot of wildlife follow the creek and wanders up the hill to my house fairly often. The other good thing about where I live is out front. Right next door is a Dollar General. The other way is a closed curio shop, then a Chinese restaurant beyond that. Across the street is my bank which is between the post office and auto parts store. In that same strip plaza is a Famous Hair, doctor's office, and pizza shop. Grocery and convenience stores are a short 15 minute walk. I have no human neighbors.

I don't know why I own two cars.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. We spotted a full albino faun up in the Michigan UP
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:54 PM
Sep 2012

Of course my camera battery was dead, but my grand daughter got some shots of it.

Regular albino deer are about 1 in 30,000. I have no idea how rare a piebald would be.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts)
9. Wow, what great pictures!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:54 PM
Sep 2012

And oh you lucky dog....living with a creek and some deer right there in your back yard!

This is just stunning.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
12. Ooh, I love these pictures!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:59 PM
Sep 2012

We have tons of deer in our yard (we're renting on a 1000 acre plot). I love deer.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
15. NE Ohio
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:20 PM
Sep 2012

I live very near Mosquito Lake. Apparently the area's forefathers had a terrific fear of tourists.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
16. Very cool! We have an albino male in my neighborhood...or at least used to -
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:14 PM
Sep 2012

we haven't seen him around in nearly a year. Just gorgeous....

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
18. AFAIC...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:50 PM
Sep 2012

Just a different breed of rat.
They eat up our gardens, even when we have them fenced off.
They run into our cars,
and some people think that they are cute.
I just wish there weren't so many people invading their territory.
I didn't do anything for them to invade my life so much!

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
19. He's beautiful.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:51 PM
Sep 2012

And your pix are great. Please don't post them anywhere else....a piebald deer is a great trophy for hunters. I know, I come from a family of them.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
26. A friend who hunts told me it's bad luck to shoot one.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:25 PM
Sep 2012

I imagine if his luck changed and he got hungry enough he'd be hauling one home though.

Perhaps is a regional superstition. Such unfounded fears have been known to mess with natural selection and increase the population of mutations, as in the Emperor Crab.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
39. A piebald would have the edge I think.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:45 AM
Sep 2012

I didn't see this one right away because it's dappled coat made it blend in with the folliage. By the time I got my camera it'd emerged from the tree line.

mike dub

(541 posts)
20. We saw a deer like this at our local state park in North Carolina a couple years ago...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:52 PM
Sep 2012

but didn't have the camera with us.

The one we saw was almost entirely white. I saw it first, up on a ridge to the right and pointed it out to my wife. The deer stared at us for a few seconds and then bolted. We both knew we'd seen something special. The park ranger had never heard of such a deer being spotted on the preserve.

Apparently mutations occur in individual white-tail deer from time to time.

Great pics, OP!!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
22. Living out in the country rural area is great. You get to see so many animals. Sometimes
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:54 PM
Sep 2012

I see deer running around here and rabbits, squirrels, possums, and coyotes sometimes. Spotting deers especially the babies is so neat and peaceful. Thank you for sharing your picture.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
24. Very nice pics, interesting! I think you are right about mother and offspring.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:03 PM
Sep 2012

It looks like the mother has a bit of discoloring on her hind quarter.

Thank you for posting these pics, much appreciated.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
29. Beautiful, I love the albino crosses.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:41 PM
Sep 2012

We had an albino buck on a local military base yrs ago. It resulted in many of these spotted deer. Some idiot shot him one night (got in big trouble for it). I am happy to see other albino mixes like these. Very fun and interesting.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
31. Talk about being in the right place
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Sep 2012

at the right time. Just stunning photos, and SO much cooler than Mitt!

Thank you. K&R

kittykitty

(1,091 posts)
32. Hey, that's my backyard and we have those deer! They have been sighted here in rural PA.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

We had doe with one piebald and one normal fawn.. Unfortunately I can't post a picture because I am using an iPad.

My husband took pictures of the fawn. Then he took our cat to the vet. The first thing the vet said was, " have you seen any of the white deer?"

BTW, your photos are great!

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
33. Is it just me, or does the piebald
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:59 PM
Sep 2012

have shorter, stockier legs than the others?

Just an observation. Very pretty though!


JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
40. I read where they do indeed have shorter legs.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:48 AM
Sep 2012

Longer than usual tail too. In the one pic it almost looks like a large dog.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
34. They seem suddenly more common around South Central PA
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:03 AM
Sep 2012

We've been seeing piebalds somewhat regularly. I've seen more this year - than all years combined before.

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