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The lack of Vietnamese deaths from COVID could a testament to a better public health system and better disease control efforts. But what if COVID 19 originated in Vietnamese pangolins and therefore the population of that country was mostly exposed when they were young and resistant?
Here is a link to an article about Vietnam's involvement in the pangolin trade.
https://www.pangolinreports.com/vietnam/
And here is one about pangolins being a possible COVID vector (since China imports them)
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/endangered-pangolin-a-possible-link-in-spread-of-covid-19/2286449/
If true, Vietnam might be a source for plasma with anti-COVID antibodies that could be used to treat active cases.
Just a thought.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)bat in China. The pangolin as a vector would have been at the market.
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)Chinese virologists have studied them for years
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)Because nobody died there
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,852 posts)Do they really have a good public health system? Why do I find myself skeptical about that?
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)They are basically paranoid about viruses and they have an extensive surveillance system
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/how-did-vietnam-become-biggest-nation-without-coronavirus-deaths
https://www.axios.com/vietnam-coronavirus-pandemic-cases-economy-cee127ff-6aaa-4901-af82-7a0821e68150.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12/vietnam-coronavirus-pandemic-success-repression/
The military has also played a role in Vietnams battle against the virus. Sixty-eight military camps with a capacity of 40,000 people were set up to receive people ordered into quarantine. Nguyen Khanh (whose name has been changed to protect her identity), a 19-year-old who returned from studying in the U.K. and was quarantined in one of the camps, said she was woken up at 6 a.m. each day by a loudspeaker blaring a song declaring, Our lives are a military march. Similar messages were also being broadcast outside the camp. Each morning, the loudspeakers found on every street corner in Hanoi were also praising the contributions of the military and law enforcement agencies in fighting the virus.
At the same time, the authorities were stepping up their efforts against unauthorized information. According to local news reports, between Jan. 23, when Vietnam detected its first case of infection, and mid-March, police censored around 300,000 posts on news sites and blogs and 600,000 posts on social media about COVID-19. During those two months, police took action against 654 cases of so-called fake news and sanctioned 146 people. The overlap between the techniques useful for fighting misinformation and those for squashing political criticism is obvious. Vietnam sits at 175th on the Reporters Without Borders 2020 World Press Freedom Index.
While some other Asian states, notably South Korea, have used phone tracking, credit card records, and video surveillance to trace the travel history of infected people, only Vietnam and China are able to combine such technologies with the street muscle to maintain direct personal control over large numbers of people. Only Vietnam and China are able to do so permanently and without the need to submit to legal or parliamentary oversight.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,852 posts)So if you put everyone remotely likely to have the virus into camps, that could help.
Now what I want to know is how was the medical treatment of those in the camps? Plus, they would have a very strong incentive to under report both cases and deaths. Also, according to this site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries their testing is rather scanty.
As for SARS, while it was more deadly than the Covid-19, it does not seem to have spread as readily. Which is why it went away, doing relatively little damage.