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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums8-year-old girl fatally shot near Rayshard Brooks' memorial site
Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms told protesters Sunday to clear out of an area where Rayshard Brooks was killed by police last month after an 8-year-old girl was fatally shot over the weekend near the site.
You shot and killed a baby, she said in a news conference. Enough is enough.
Bottoms said the girl, Secoriea Turner, was shot while riding in a car with her mother and a friend after they tried pulling into a parking lot. The site had been barricaded after Brooks was killed June 12 killing at a Wendys parking lot south of downtown Atlanta, prompting weeks of protests against racial injustice and police brutality.
Atlanta interim police Chief Rodney Bryant said the driver was confronted by a group of armed people who had blocked the entrance, which was less than a half-mile from the Wendys.
At some point someone in the group opened fire, striking the car multiple times, he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/8-year-old-girl-fatally-shot-near-rayshard-brooks-memorial-site/ar-BB16n3us?li=BBnb7Kz
MichMan
(11,964 posts)HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)because of posting rules and/or getting alerted on.
I'm curious to see if there will be any demonstrations or protests or if it just disappears in the news cycle.
Response to HotTeaBag (Reply #4)
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HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)There's a national narrative that's been set and deviating from it will get pounced on so it's safer to just not say anything.
My own (edited) feeling is that it's absolutely horrible that this happened and keeps happening and there won't be a sign waved or a bullhorn raised or a rousing chant offered up or a freeway shut down because the murderer doesn't fit into the assigned lane. And it happens all too often.
blm
(113,084 posts)courtesy of another WH. No doubt n my mind that Trump and Putin want a race war triggered here before November.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)And especially white vs. black - he is going full Wallace in 2020.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)Children were murdered. I prayer that someone identifies who murdered these children. At least Arron Glee was arrested and admitted to the murder in CHOP. Still it is not being covered and as you mentioned no signs being waved or bull horns being raised. It almost seems like selective outrage and that these victims don't fit the some sort of profile.
cigsandcoffee
(2,300 posts)...
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And it's interesting to see who stays completely away from these threads.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)ChazII
(6,205 posts)Secoriea Turner - 8 yr old black female
Oluwatoyin Salau - 19 year black female killed in Seattle.
Horace Anderson, Jr. - 19 year black male killed in the CHOP zone.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)maxsolomon
(33,397 posts)Because that's the point. The police should stop harassing and killing black people. That seemed clear to me.
If you want to start a protest movement to stop Americans from using guns to settle every perceived slight, I'm in.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)well said".
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)maxsolomon
(33,397 posts)This was bad and it shouldn't have happened?
Does that constitute insight?
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Bettie
(16,124 posts)and it seems to be happening in several cities right now.
People are stressed, many are unemployed and it is hot.
Shootings always go up during the hot months for a variety of reasons, add to that the stress of, well, freaking everything going on now, it isn't a surprise.
Tragic, incredibly sad, a huge reminder that our society has far too many guns on the streets, but not particularly surprising.
fords.org/resources/publications/shootings-spike-in-summer-months/
https://nypost.com/2019/06/18/high-temperatures-can-lead-to-more-violent-crime-study-finds/
MichMan
(11,964 posts)Heard reports there was more than one shooter.
blm
(113,084 posts)been shot by white nationalists at these protest sites across the nation. The real protestors arent shooting.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)That seems clear enough to me.
blm
(113,084 posts)in every community and my point is that not all being drawn to the protest sites are actual protestors, and certainly not the lethal violence that has been tracked to criminal opportunists, especially white nationalist groups. So....why assume the shooters were part of the legitimate protestors when previous shootings point to others?
jmg257
(11,996 posts)https://news.yahoo.com/atlanta-mayor-orders-protesters-clear-123031189.html
Hard to tell whose "legitimate" and who isn't at this point.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I just object to people trying to say they must be white.
Obviously, the mayor and the family believe otherwise.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)NOT police at least.
"75 shootings in this city in last several weeks".
In a statement Sunday, police said the girl was in a car with her mother and a friend of the mother when they got off Interstate-75/85 onto University Avenue and were trying to enter a parking lot nearby. They ran into a group of armed individuals who had blocked the entrance.
At some point, someone in that group opened fire on the vehicle, striking it multiple times and striking the child who was inside, the statement read. The driver drove the girl to Atlanta Medical Center but she did not survive.
Police said they are seeking help from the public to identify those involved and released a wanted poster saying a person all dressed in black and another in a white T-shirt were being sought.
The mayor said there have been problems with protesters in the area putting up barriers to close off the street. She said she received a message that the barriers were back up less than an hour before she was informed that the 8-year-old girl had died.
https://apnews.com/9148d740c10fcd784867eda74055aaa5
From the father...
PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)No other words for this. Just heartbreaking.
Kingofalldems
(38,471 posts)HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Which might just be the point.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Well said.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Huh.
Kingofalldems
(38,471 posts)0%.
Kingofalldems
(38,471 posts)HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Very cool.
Fla Dem
(23,739 posts)As should all of these miscreants who have caused the death of innocents in the past week.
Link to tweet
A 10-year-old girl and a toddler were killed in Chicago gun violence
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/us/chicago-children-shooting/index.html
At Least 17 Killed In Shootings In Chicago This Weekend, Including 1-Year-Old Boy And 10-Year-Old Girl
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/06/29/at-least-13-killed-in-shootings-in-chicago-this-weekend-including-1-year-old-boy-and-10-year-old-girl/
Where's the outrage over these deaths?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)So predictable.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,179 posts)Otherwise you sound like you're making a looky over there argument.
Fla Dem
(23,739 posts)And why shouldn't we look over there? Are we unable to acknowledge other atrocities? Is one valued less than the other?
blm
(113,084 posts)as part of their efforts to trigger a race war.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)"Thoughts and prayers are simply not enough at this point," Mayor Lightfoot said. "Sorrow itself is not enough and what it says is we need to do better as a city, this day, this year and really every day. There is no reason we should be feeling and experiencing moments like this."
We must keep violent offenders in jail longer. We must," Superintendent David Brown said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicago.com/amp/chicago-shooting-shootings-this-weekend-violence-how-many-shot-in/6301523/
blm
(113,084 posts)You are welcome to discuss this with yourself.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)1)Nothing new about it. 2)No need for trump to help.
Thanks! Will use Chicago as an example.
In 2017, the number of homicides fell to 653,[12] dropping to 561 in 2018[9] and 492 in 2019. Chicago's deadliest day since reliable digital records began in 1991 occurred on May 31, 2020, with 18 murders committed. This day was part of a three-day weekend that saw 85 shootings in the city. Reports indicate that the victims were of various ages and occupations, but mostly black. The violence was framed by the George Floyd protests, but researchers said it was unheard of and unable to be contextualized.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
jmg257
(11,996 posts)"Members of the community" murder a little girl for trying to enter a parking lot with her mom.
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Scum bags.
Later Sunday night the Atlanta Police Department said another man was killed and two other victims were injured during an exchange of gunfire just two doors down from the scene of Brooks' death.
Hope the community response gets these murderers.
That same night, 11-year-old Davon McNeal was at an anti-violence cookout in Washington, D.C., when bullets struck him. In Chicago, 7-year-old Natalia Wallace was outside her family's house during a holiday gathering as the shooting began. Both children were killed.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)They've threatened numerous folks in that area, and threatened to beat up a reporter.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Clearly.
The message didnt get through.
Secorieas mother Charmaine Turner said she encountered the barricades and the armed group wouldnt let her pass.
R B Garr
(16,975 posts)What a huge loss her family must be feeling.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)?ve=1&tl=1
Actually flat out killing people now.
{on edit: it is NOT necessarily THESE humpers that were the shooters}
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Secorieas mother Charmaine Turner said she encountered the barricades and the armed group wouldnt let her pass. They didnt give us time to make a U-turn, Turner said Sunday. They shot my tires before we had time to turn around.
In a statement Sunday, police said the girl was in a car with her mother and a friend of the mother when they got off Interstate-75/85 onto University Avenue and were trying to enter a parking lot nearby. They ran into a group of armed individuals who had blocked the entrance.
At some point, someone in that group opened fire on the vehicle, striking it multiple times and striking the child who was inside, the statement read. The driver drove the girl to Atlanta Medical Center but she did not survive.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)country and I'm just as worried about black groups doing the same.
I just knew something bad would happen, though I figured it would be a fire-fight between the two groups - I didn't see the murder of an innocent 8 year old girl coming.
This is going to get out of hand - hell it's out of hand already.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)What is sad, for me, is that Fox News did cover these stories in more than a 30 second sound bite. I haven't seen in depth reporting regarding CHOP or Atlanta's tragic and needless deaths.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Youve been pushing.
Try finding a description of the suspects in this case...we do know what color shirts they were wearing.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)the name, work history, FB & Twitter pages, High School, favorite color, if they are a cat or dog person, and what they had for dinner the previous evening.
Amazing.
Kingofalldems
(38,471 posts)What other cases? Why do you put quote marks around the word other?
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)It's been this weird grammatical tic I've had for like, ever.
All the 'other' people in my life can't figure it out and like you, ask me about it.
I have no 'other' explanation for you. Sorry.
Kingofalldems
(38,471 posts)EllieBC
(3,041 posts)Threads about antisemitism die unless the act was perpetuated by a white supremacist.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)ChazII
(6,205 posts)Terry Crews.
The Expendables actor then brought up the recent spate of gun violence that claimed the lives of multiple children over the past couple of weeks.
Its [the movement] got to be all black lives matter, he said, adding that black people need to hold other black people accountable.
However, Lemon clapped back by saying BLMs focus is not black-on-black crime. If you want an all Black Lives Matter movement that talks about gun violence in communities, including black communities, then start that movement, scolded the CNN Host, analogizing Crews statement to asking a cancer group why they arent talking about HIV.
However, Crews contended that police brutality is not the only thing theyre [BLM] talking about.
Lemon countered by saying, Black Lives Matter is about police brutality and about criminal justice. Its not about what happens in communities when it comes to crime. People who live near each other, black people, kill each other. Same as whites
it happens in every single neighborhood.
https://nypost.com/2020/07/07/don-lemon-chastises-terry-crews-over-black-lives-matter-views/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Is this story not getting coverage because the focus of BLM is about police brutality and criminal justice only? I confess I am totally confused now. I need to educate myself. Thank you for understanding that I am in the learning process.
ecstatic
(32,729 posts)horrendous, Chicago-like headlines now that police are being asked to modify their behavior.
"25 killed in Atlanta During Independence Day Weekend Celebrations," etc. This is NOT the norm here and never has been.
Of course, kkkemp weighed in and has promised to crack down on the "lawlessness."
Now cue trump's ridiculous 911 ads, which have been playing non-stop for the past few days.
It'll be interesting to see how this narrative affects Georgia polls.
I think Mayor Bottoms should seek assistance from a private company to figure out who the shooters were and if they were acting alone or taking orders from someone. I'm worried that she might not realize how deep and corrupt the police "blue wall" really is.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Weird indeed.
There were 19, mostly black, in the 1st 2 weeks...then a couple shootings in CHOP, a couple in Atlanta, etc. etc.
UGH.