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pwb

(11,265 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:03 PM Sep 2012

My Veterans benefits, I thought, until today, were from a grateful nation.

Turns out I am a burden to Republicans. I feel so ashamed of my disability benefits, i am nothing but a burden to the people who always claimed they love the troops and veterans. I am sorry America. I have let you down.

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My Veterans benefits, I thought, until today, were from a grateful nation. (Original Post) pwb Sep 2012 OP
You are a usEd up round nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #1
I'm glad the Chief's still around pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #44
Please write exactly that as a letter to the editor of tha major national paper of your choice! peacebird Sep 2012 #2
YES!! renie408 Sep 2012 #6
peacebird speaks the truth. reflection Sep 2012 #8
^^ This ^^ nt Indpndnt Sep 2012 #10
THIS! n/t Earth_First Sep 2012 #25
And to your local paper too! burrowowl Sep 2012 #57
I pay my taxes BECAUSE of people like you...because I am grateful DonRedwood Sep 2012 #3
Damn straight! Patriotic Americans pay their taxes while Teabaggers and 1%ers whine about them. MatthewStLouis Sep 2012 #18
. tk2kewl Sep 2012 #4
This Veteran says thank you Corgigal Sep 2012 #5
I am SO ashamed of taking disability handouts for getting shot in combat pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #7
We are just victims who feel entitled. pwb Sep 2012 #9
Fortunate Son... pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #21
ME TOO!!!! life long demo Sep 2012 #34
Fogerty Solidarity!1!! pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #53
That song could have been written for Willard Romney. yardwork Sep 2012 #49
Damn straight! pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #50
Why, it's like the song was written just for him (and many more from that era). Arkansas Granny Sep 2012 #68
Right down to the tax evasion. Remarkable. yardwork Sep 2012 #69
This... Wait Wut Sep 2012 #17
It occurred to me to send an LTTE to my conservative local paper pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #20
Great idea! Wait Wut Sep 2012 #23
I'm pissed off and fired up pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #24
LOL! Wait Wut Sep 2012 #31
What's your local paper's email address? pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #58
... Wait Wut Sep 2012 #70
Let's be clear. The Nation is grateful. From there ... cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #11
Yeah...slacker! trof Sep 2012 #12
You should make a youtube video SpartanDem Sep 2012 #13
Holy crap. Wait Wut Sep 2012 #14
Like Kerry Vietnameravet Sep 2012 #15
Moocher! Or so the GOP thinks. mainer Sep 2012 #16
Yes, the working half. Eddie Haskell Sep 2012 #48
What I said was for all disabled Veterans. pwb Sep 2012 #19
Thanks for the great OP! pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #26
I hope you do the LTTE. pwb Sep 2012 #29
Love and Peace to you, too, brother pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #30
your sacrifice is honorable. Only hateful bigots begrudge you your benefits... salin Sep 2012 #22
You weren't given a handout buddy. Don't forget that. You earned every penny yourself with southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #27
Nicely put, and thanks for remembering the families SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #36
Thank you. It was heartfelt. My husband spent 21 yrs and we travelled all over the southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #51
Aw, brought tears to my eyes. it's easily one of the hardest non-paying jobs SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #64
I wouldn't change that experience for anything. I loved the life and being with the southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #67
Regarding families... pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #59
I'm glad you were there, it can't be easy for siblings SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #65
From one veteran to another - we are all grateful for your service Siwsan Sep 2012 #28
My daughter is leaving for boot camp November 13th HockeyMom Sep 2012 #32
A LOT of Americans... liberalmuse Sep 2012 #33
Stand tall, America is more than the mouthpieces and you are appreciated SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #35
Just sucking off that public teat, you are. MineralMan Sep 2012 #37
You MOOCHER!!!! Texasgal Sep 2012 #38
If only you could learn to take responsibility for yourself! But you can't. Rmoney says so. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #39
oh I get it now... FemVet Sep 2012 #40
(OOPS! ...I'd forgotten to rec...sorry...my bad...fixed now) pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #41
I am grateful MadrasT Sep 2012 #42
Who stopped these The Wizard Sep 2012 #43
Me, too. n/t HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #45
My only issue with paying for veterans disability benefits 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #46
I guess freedom ain't free after all n/t Tsiyu Sep 2012 #61
Republicans have a history of big talk but harsh cuts against vets. "Obama has been the best for vet Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #47
47% Grateful ruffburr Sep 2012 #52
You are no longer zentrum Sep 2012 #54
No Rmoney was ever hurt in the making of America mountain grammy Sep 2012 #55
I'm 100% service connected myself. Rozlee Sep 2012 #56
You haven't let this American down Tsiyu Sep 2012 #60
Don't feel bad. Most of America is a burden to Mittens. Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #62
And my disability was paid for insurance until I needed it and I still pay FICA kickysnana Sep 2012 #63
The $$ that comes from me to you is with gratitude for your service. Barack_America Sep 2012 #66
One more time around.... please send this to your newspaper editor of choice! nt riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #71
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. You are a usEd up round
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:04 PM
Sep 2012

We've known this for a while, btw.

Let me add what hubby feels, a used up round that did not have the good sense to die.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
44. I'm glad the Chief's still around
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:24 PM
Sep 2012

And you can tell him I said that. We need people like the Chief with his background, smarts and experience.

And we know if he puts up with you, he's got to be a helluva good man.




burrowowl

(17,641 posts)
57. And to your local paper too!
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
Sep 2012

Damn the Veterans are already not receiving timely treatment they need for PTSD due to lack of funds, etc.
Privatized prisons, privatized schools, privatized veterans care, etc. Zeus help us or let us help ourselves and VOTE and if the election is stolen: HIE THEE TO THE STREETS!

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
18. Damn straight! Patriotic Americans pay their taxes while Teabaggers and 1%ers whine about them.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:40 PM
Sep 2012

Hell, 1%ers don't even want to pay their fair share!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
5. This Veteran says thank you
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:13 PM
Sep 2012

but I personally think , Fuck em and I'm going to refill my thyroid prescription now, from the V.A. If they want my "entitlement" they can place their life on the line. I won't hold my breath because rich people don't serve anything but the ol mighty dollar.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. I am SO ashamed of taking disability handouts for getting shot in combat
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:18 PM
Sep 2012

Anybody have Mitt's email addy so I can send my apology?

pwb

(11,265 posts)
9. We are just victims who feel entitled.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:27 PM
Sep 2012

This from a man who has not one veteran in his family..Ever.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. Fortunate Son...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:47 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Mitt's not a draft dodger, he's a chickenhawk who advocated sending other mothers' sons to serve in war and die and be maimed involuntarily while he enjoyed an exemption to dine on Pâté de Foie Gras and other delicacies in France.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

[div]




Fortunate Son
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Written by John Fogerty

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! More! More! yoh

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no






God, I love Fogerty!


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
50. Damn straight!
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:42 PM
Sep 2012

Many of us who DID serve have nothing but contempt for him.

It's hard for us to understand how some vets can be so blinded by partisanship to give him a pass.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
17. This...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:37 PM
Sep 2012

...is a good idea. Veterans need to start sending letters of public apology to Romney.


Edit: And, seniors need to do the same.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. It occurred to me to send an LTTE to my conservative local paper
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:44 PM
Sep 2012

The Editor happens to be a friend of mine, and even he has been moving Left recently.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
23. Great idea!
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:49 PM
Sep 2012

It'll stir some shit if you're town is anything like mine, but I think it would be worth it if you're up for it.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
70. ...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:55 AM
Sep 2012
http://www.prescottaz.com/Formlayout.asp?formcall=userform&form=1

We have a lot of vets in this town that really need to start paying attention. It would be awesome if they'd actually publish your letter, but I don't have a lot of faith that they will.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
11. Let's be clear. The Nation is grateful. From there ...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:28 PM
Sep 2012

we just need to do a better job of parsing out Republicans, assholes and the like.

trof

(54,256 posts)
12. Yeah...slacker!
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:29 PM
Sep 2012

So you put your life on the line?
Well, so did Mitt Rmoney, financially speaking.
He took a hell of a risk with some of the companies he put out of business.
Damn! Some of them ALMOST lost money!

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
13. You should make a youtube video
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:33 PM
Sep 2012

tell your story and maybe DU can make the sucker go viral. In the least there should be a letter your local newspaper.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
14. Holy crap.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:35 PM
Sep 2012

That just knocked the wind out of me.

That was the most powerful statement I've read in a very long time.

from a Marine Mom

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
15. Like Kerry
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:35 PM
Sep 2012

I am a Vietnam Era Vet and you are getting the same treatment as John Kerry..he is a decorated Vietnam war vet and you see how these chickenhawk righties treat the military when they go against them..same for Max Cleeland a triple amputee that the Repubs associated with Osama Bin Ladin and Ann Coutler claimed was wounded "while drinking with his buddies!"

What a hateful bitch but they love her!!

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
48. Yes, the working half.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:36 PM
Sep 2012

Mitt represents the owners, you know, the ones George Carlin used to talk about. The ones that don't give a damn about you.

pwb

(11,265 posts)
29. I hope you do the LTTE.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

I do not type very well and I am usually only good at short writing. Feel free to carry on from here. Peace brother.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
30. Love and Peace to you, too, brother
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:05 PM
Sep 2012

I'm definitely going to do the letter--thanks to your inspiration.

salin

(48,955 posts)
22. your sacrifice is honorable. Only hateful bigots begrudge you your benefits...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:48 PM
Sep 2012

the rest of us are part of that grateful nation.

My father left school to volunteer in WWII before there was a draft. He served in the Pacific theater and fortunately survived. Some of his colleagues did not.

After his service he was able to afford to finish his education (on to a Phd), and due to the GI bill many universities expanded in order to accommodate the GI bill education benefits for the millions of veterans from WWII. This benefited both the vets (like my father), and grew the university system (which also benefited my father who became a professor.) Investing in vets - not only honors their sacrifice (part of the social compact that Romney doesn't recognize), it also benefits local economies and industries via stimulus.

I recognize the sarcasm within your post. I hope you don't mind that I used it to point out one area in our relatively recent history, where honoring that service not only completed the social contract, but also expanded economies due to paying that debt.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
27. You weren't given a handout buddy. Don't forget that. You earned every penny yourself with
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sep 2012

blue, sweat and maybe even tears. We owe you and thank you and your family for doing for us.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
51. Thank you. It was heartfelt. My husband spent 21 yrs and we travelled all over the
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sep 2012

world. Every time they pinned a new stripe on his uniform he would always thank me because I took care of our little family while he was doing his job. I made sure his job was always first and I made sure I made plans around his job. We both worked but we really worked together. We both grew up in military families so I understood what was his job and what was mine. So I think soldiers work so hard and earn everything they get. Their families should be supported and thank also.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
64. Aw, brought tears to my eyes. it's easily one of the hardest non-paying jobs
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:19 AM
Sep 2012

you can do but still worth it. I too was a milbrat then spouse and I definitely feel the built in experience helps a relationship.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
67. I wouldn't change that experience for anything. I loved the life and being with the
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:44 AM
Sep 2012

diversity of people and having great neighbors.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
59. Regarding families...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:29 PM
Sep 2012

I had the privilege of meeting many Gold Star families when I worked at the Wall in D.C. That was a bittersweet experience.

But what doesn't get enough attention is the children. People come out and express condolences to the the parents of KIAs, but they have no idea what to say to the children. And even in their families, the children can be left out.

At the Wall one day, I found a woman collapsed in front of, what I learned, was her big brother's panel. She told me she couldn't understand how her brother had become a psycho killer.

When I asked what she meant, she handed me a sheaf of documents--including her brother's Silver Star citation.

I had to explain to her that her brother died taking out the enemy positions that were putting out the fire that was killing his friends. Incredibly, she had never understood that.

The woman lived very close to where I grew up, and when I moved back into the area, she was the first one I contacted. When I visited her home, where she still lived with her mother, I asked to see a picture of her brother. She had to go into another room and pull it out of a drawer.

I could be wrong, but it struck me that my friend's ignorance and misunderstanding about what happened to her brother stemmed from her mother's psychological reaction to the loss of her son.

In any case, after our first meeting at the Wall her attitude totally changed--and I think she was proud of her brother for the first time.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
28. From one veteran to another - we are all grateful for your service
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:01 PM
Sep 2012

Pay no attention to that self-entitled, hypocritical, lying, cowardly chickenhawk. You can be damn sure that I have your back!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
32. My daughter is leaving for boot camp November 13th
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:25 PM
Sep 2012

We will not have a Thanksgiving or Christmas together with her, which living 1,000 miles apart, means a lot to us.

I guess it means nothing. She will not be a "contributing" member of society, if she even was as a teacher.

It makes me want to cry how much "that" Party doesn't care about their fellow humans, not even our military who will put their own lives on the line FOR THEM.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
33. A LOT of Americans...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:33 PM
Sep 2012

A LOT, believe that people like Romney and corporations like Bain are the ones draining the life out this country. A lot of Americans have no problem with their tax dollars going to help people who need it, or to ensure when a person retires, they have a pension. A country that depends on soldiers like we do damn well better take care of them when they come home. That is the LEAST we can do, and what soldiers get now is not near enough. The people who've chosen to serve and whom our leaders have put in combat have more than earned any "benefits" they draw.

Further, I have no problem with the miniscule percentage of people who simply don't want to work drawing benefits. That number is too low to even worry about. It's hard enough worrying about oneself than to go around judging others and worrying that someone else is going to steal "MY" due, "MY" share (WTF?). However, I do have a problem with a bunch of assholes eating a 50k dinner and dissing half of Americans while plotting how to steal away the public treasury for themselves. I have a big problem with corporations being placed above human beings. I have a problem with Republicans looting the public treasury Every. Fucking. Time. they get into the White House. I'm tired of pigs at the fucking trough who try to blame others while slopping up ill-gotten gains.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
37. Just sucking off that public teat, you are.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:57 PM
Sep 2012

As an old veteran, I'm not drawing any VA benefits, but I'm more than glad to pay taxes that support them. Like many Vietnam era vets, I lost friends. Romney is not my friend. He is the enemy.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
39. If only you could learn to take responsibility for yourself! But you can't. Rmoney says so.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:01 PM
Sep 2012


Of course that isn't true! You have EARNED whatever benefits you get. WE APPRECIATE YOU!!!!

FemVet

(11 posts)
40. oh I get it now...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:03 PM
Sep 2012

is this the real reason McCain voted against the post 9/11 GI Bill? It's all making sense... If Bush served any longer than we probably could of privatized war fully and transferred all of the mooching veterans monies to "job producing" Haliburton and KBR monies!!!

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
42. I am grateful
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:11 PM
Sep 2012

And I am proud to support veterans.

The only donations I make are for veterans groups and animal rescue groups.

I am an upper middle class American from a military family that goes back to the Civil War, pay loads of taxes and that's OK, and I am endlessly, ever grateful to you and all who serve. You earned every last cent and more.

Fuck Romney The Shirker. Just fuck him.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
43. Who stopped these
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

whining Republicans from going to Vietnam? My veterans benefits and Social Security are earned benefits. Too bad Romney and his ilk never earned a dollar or sweated for a nickle.
Some people just need a good ass kicking.
I'm stealing this shameful feeling Romney has put on my shoulders and shouting it from the roof top.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
46. My only issue with paying for veterans disability benefits
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:33 PM
Sep 2012

is that we have so many.

Sorry for your troubles.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
47. Republicans have a history of big talk but harsh cuts against vets. "Obama has been the best for vet
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:34 PM
Sep 2012

Recently a respected ex-military or ex-VA head said that Obama has been the best president in recent memory for veterans.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
52. 47% Grateful
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:49 PM
Sep 2012

As for myself i honor your service and disdain GOP attitude, I apologize for these morons

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
54. You are no longer
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:03 PM
Sep 2012

...of use to the owners of the military industrial complex. They, BTW, were never grateful.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
55. No Rmoney was ever hurt in the making of America
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:07 PM
Sep 2012

That from a 47%er collecting social security retirement benefits that I paid into my whole life. And, no, I don't pay income taxes anymore, Mitt, just like you, only in my case it's because most of my income is social security. Wanna tax it, buddy? Bring it on!

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
56. I'm 100% service connected myself.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:19 PM
Sep 2012

Whenever I point out to conservatives that veterans make sacrifices to their country, they invariably come back with, "you knew what you were getting into when you raised your right hand." Yeah, we did. We promised to uphold the Constitution and protect our country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, not fight unnecessary wars of choice to enrich corporations and the wealthy. There's really no such thing as an honorable war, but to be used by corporations and the wealthy to further enrich them, to see young patients die or be severely injured, to mark your own life from one seizure and blackout to the next, is less than being in a war. It's being an expendable pawn in a chess game where the players dispose of you uncaringly in their goal to win.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
60. You haven't let this American down
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:59 PM
Sep 2012


Don't let some two-bit wannabe oligarch define anything in this life.





 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
62. Don't feel bad. Most of America is a burden to Mittens.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:10 PM
Sep 2012

Seniors, veterans, handicapped, unemployed, homeowners w/int deductions, students w/loans, retirees on SS, mil retirees.........listen, if you are a burden, then most Americans share the load.

kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
63. And my disability was paid for insurance until I needed it and I still pay FICA
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:22 PM
Sep 2012

on my greatly reduced income.

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