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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Veterans benefits, I thought, until today, were from a grateful nation.
Turns out I am a burden to Republicans. I feel so ashamed of my disability benefits, i am nothing but a burden to the people who always claimed they love the troops and veterans. I am sorry America. I have let you down.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)We've known this for a while, btw.
Let me add what hubby feels, a used up round that did not have the good sense to die.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And you can tell him I said that. We need people like the Chief with his background, smarts and experience.
And we know if he puts up with you, he's got to be a helluva good man.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)Please do this, sir/madam.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)burrowowl
(17,641 posts)Damn the Veterans are already not receiving timely treatment they need for PTSD due to lack of funds, etc.
Privatized prisons, privatized schools, privatized veterans care, etc. Zeus help us or let us help ourselves and VOTE and if the election is stolen: HIE THEE TO THE STREETS!
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)Hell, 1%ers don't even want to pay their fair share!
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)but I personally think , Fuck em and I'm going to refill my thyroid prescription now, from the V.A. If they want my "entitlement" they can place their life on the line. I won't hold my breath because rich people don't serve anything but the ol mighty dollar.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Anybody have Mitt's email addy so I can send my apology?
pwb
(11,265 posts)This from a man who has not one veteran in his family..Ever.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Mitt's not a draft dodger, he's a chickenhawk who advocated sending other mothers' sons to serve in war and die and be maimed involuntarily while he enjoyed an exemption to dine on Pâté de Foie Gras and other delicacies in France.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
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Fortunate Son
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Written by John Fogerty
Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no
Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no
Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! More! More! yoh
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no
God, I love Fogerty!
life long demo
(1,113 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)yardwork
(61,608 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Many of us who DID serve have nothing but contempt for him.
It's hard for us to understand how some vets can be so blinded by partisanship to give him a pass.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)yardwork
(61,608 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...is a good idea. Veterans need to start sending letters of public apology to Romney.
Edit: And, seniors need to do the same.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The Editor happens to be a friend of mine, and even he has been moving Left recently.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)It'll stir some shit if you're town is anything like mine, but I think it would be worth it if you're up for it.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Of course I'm up for it! Anybody have a problem with that? BRING IT ON!
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)Damn. Wish you were writing to my local paper. Be sure to post a copy here!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)We have a lot of vets in this town that really need to start paying attention. It would be awesome if they'd actually publish your letter, but I don't have a lot of faith that they will.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)we just need to do a better job of parsing out Republicans, assholes and the like.
trof
(54,256 posts)So you put your life on the line?
Well, so did Mitt Rmoney, financially speaking.
He took a hell of a risk with some of the companies he put out of business.
Damn! Some of them ALMOST lost money!
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)tell your story and maybe DU can make the sucker go viral. In the least there should be a letter your local newspaper.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)That just knocked the wind out of me.
That was the most powerful statement I've read in a very long time.
from a Marine Mom
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)I am a Vietnam Era Vet and you are getting the same treatment as John Kerry..he is a decorated Vietnam war vet and you see how these chickenhawk righties treat the military when they go against them..same for Max Cleeland a triple amputee that the Repubs associated with Osama Bin Ladin and Ann Coutler claimed was wounded "while drinking with his buddies!"
What a hateful bitch but they love her!!
mainer
(12,022 posts)Half the nation, it turns out, are moochers.
Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)Mitt represents the owners, you know, the ones George Carlin used to talk about. The ones that don't give a damn about you.
pwb
(11,265 posts)Thank you for all your grateful replies.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)pwb
(11,265 posts)I do not type very well and I am usually only good at short writing. Feel free to carry on from here. Peace brother.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I'm definitely going to do the letter--thanks to your inspiration.
salin
(48,955 posts)the rest of us are part of that grateful nation.
My father left school to volunteer in WWII before there was a draft. He served in the Pacific theater and fortunately survived. Some of his colleagues did not.
After his service he was able to afford to finish his education (on to a Phd), and due to the GI bill many universities expanded in order to accommodate the GI bill education benefits for the millions of veterans from WWII. This benefited both the vets (like my father), and grew the university system (which also benefited my father who became a professor.) Investing in vets - not only honors their sacrifice (part of the social compact that Romney doesn't recognize), it also benefits local economies and industries via stimulus.
I recognize the sarcasm within your post. I hope you don't mind that I used it to point out one area in our relatively recent history, where honoring that service not only completed the social contract, but also expanded economies due to paying that debt.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)blue, sweat and maybe even tears. We owe you and thank you and your family for doing for us.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)world. Every time they pinned a new stripe on his uniform he would always thank me because I took care of our little family while he was doing his job. I made sure his job was always first and I made sure I made plans around his job. We both worked but we really worked together. We both grew up in military families so I understood what was his job and what was mine. So I think soldiers work so hard and earn everything they get. Their families should be supported and thank also.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)you can do but still worth it. I too was a milbrat then spouse and I definitely feel the built in experience helps a relationship.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)diversity of people and having great neighbors.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I had the privilege of meeting many Gold Star families when I worked at the Wall in D.C. That was a bittersweet experience.
But what doesn't get enough attention is the children. People come out and express condolences to the the parents of KIAs, but they have no idea what to say to the children. And even in their families, the children can be left out.
At the Wall one day, I found a woman collapsed in front of, what I learned, was her big brother's panel. She told me she couldn't understand how her brother had become a psycho killer.
When I asked what she meant, she handed me a sheaf of documents--including her brother's Silver Star citation.
I had to explain to her that her brother died taking out the enemy positions that were putting out the fire that was killing his friends. Incredibly, she had never understood that.
The woman lived very close to where I grew up, and when I moved back into the area, she was the first one I contacted. When I visited her home, where she still lived with her mother, I asked to see a picture of her brother. She had to go into another room and pull it out of a drawer.
I could be wrong, but it struck me that my friend's ignorance and misunderstanding about what happened to her brother stemmed from her mother's psychological reaction to the loss of her son.
In any case, after our first meeting at the Wall her attitude totally changed--and I think she was proud of her brother for the first time.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)Siwsan
(26,262 posts)Pay no attention to that self-entitled, hypocritical, lying, cowardly chickenhawk. You can be damn sure that I have your back!
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)We will not have a Thanksgiving or Christmas together with her, which living 1,000 miles apart, means a lot to us.
I guess it means nothing. She will not be a "contributing" member of society, if she even was as a teacher.
It makes me want to cry how much "that" Party doesn't care about their fellow humans, not even our military who will put their own lives on the line FOR THEM.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)A LOT, believe that people like Romney and corporations like Bain are the ones draining the life out this country. A lot of Americans have no problem with their tax dollars going to help people who need it, or to ensure when a person retires, they have a pension. A country that depends on soldiers like we do damn well better take care of them when they come home. That is the LEAST we can do, and what soldiers get now is not near enough. The people who've chosen to serve and whom our leaders have put in combat have more than earned any "benefits" they draw.
Further, I have no problem with the miniscule percentage of people who simply don't want to work drawing benefits. That number is too low to even worry about. It's hard enough worrying about oneself than to go around judging others and worrying that someone else is going to steal "MY" due, "MY" share (WTF?). However, I do have a problem with a bunch of assholes eating a 50k dinner and dissing half of Americans while plotting how to steal away the public treasury for themselves. I have a big problem with corporations being placed above human beings. I have a problem with Republicans looting the public treasury Every. Fucking. Time. they get into the White House. I'm tired of pigs at the fucking trough who try to blame others while slopping up ill-gotten gains.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)As an old veteran, I'm not drawing any VA benefits, but I'm more than glad to pay taxes that support them. Like many Vietnam era vets, I lost friends. Romney is not my friend. He is the enemy.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Thank you for your service...
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Of course that isn't true! You have EARNED whatever benefits you get. WE APPRECIATE YOU!!!!
FemVet
(11 posts)is this the real reason McCain voted against the post 9/11 GI Bill? It's all making sense... If Bush served any longer than we probably could of privatized war fully and transferred all of the mooching veterans monies to "job producing" Haliburton and KBR monies!!!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)And I am proud to support veterans.
The only donations I make are for veterans groups and animal rescue groups.
I am an upper middle class American from a military family that goes back to the Civil War, pay loads of taxes and that's OK, and I am endlessly, ever grateful to you and all who serve. You earned every last cent and more.
Fuck Romney The Shirker. Just fuck him.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)whining Republicans from going to Vietnam? My veterans benefits and Social Security are earned benefits. Too bad Romney and his ilk never earned a dollar or sweated for a nickle.
Some people just need a good ass kicking.
I'm stealing this shameful feeling Romney has put on my shoulders and shouting it from the roof top.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)is that we have so many.
Sorry for your troubles.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Recently a respected ex-military or ex-VA head said that Obama has been the best president in recent memory for veterans.
ruffburr
(1,190 posts)As for myself i honor your service and disdain GOP attitude, I apologize for these morons
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...of use to the owners of the military industrial complex. They, BTW, were never grateful.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)That from a 47%er collecting social security retirement benefits that I paid into my whole life. And, no, I don't pay income taxes anymore, Mitt, just like you, only in my case it's because most of my income is social security. Wanna tax it, buddy? Bring it on!
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)Whenever I point out to conservatives that veterans make sacrifices to their country, they invariably come back with, "you knew what you were getting into when you raised your right hand." Yeah, we did. We promised to uphold the Constitution and protect our country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, not fight unnecessary wars of choice to enrich corporations and the wealthy. There's really no such thing as an honorable war, but to be used by corporations and the wealthy to further enrich them, to see young patients die or be severely injured, to mark your own life from one seizure and blackout to the next, is less than being in a war. It's being an expendable pawn in a chess game where the players dispose of you uncaringly in their goal to win.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Don't let some two-bit wannabe oligarch define anything in this life.
Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)Seniors, veterans, handicapped, unemployed, homeowners w/int deductions, students w/loans, retirees on SS, mil retirees.........listen, if you are a burden, then most Americans share the load.
kickysnana
(3,908 posts)on my greatly reduced income.