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By MAGGIE HABERMAN |
9/19/12 3:27 PM EDT
Bibi Netanyahu is not running a campaign in the US - it just looks that way in this new ad.
A spot featuring only the Israeli prime minister talking about Iran is set to hit the airwaves in select Florida markets tomorrow, a media tracking source confirms.
The spot is the work of a c4 called Secure America Now - which, thanks to its tax status, doesn't have to disclose its donors.
A Republican involved with the project said its airing in Miami, West Palm Beach and Ft. Myers. The flight is ultimately going to be $1 million, the official said - a media-tracking source said about $400,000 has been placed so far.
Those markets house some of the state's largest Jewish communities.
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Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)with a chainsaw.
With a pig.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)Vote, which incidentally, they won't
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)The ad was purchased by a Jewish Coalition. It shows this guy who claims he had a fundraiser at his house for President Obama and now he won't even meet with Netanahole. Now he can't vote for Obama. I find the ad deplorable and full of lies.
still_one
(92,187 posts)Raksha
(7,167 posts)Some of us can't stand Bibi or the expansionist settler mindset, and want a war with Iran less than anything we can think of.
still_one
(92,187 posts)outsideworld
(601 posts)WHEN obama wins ...obama should tell him FUCK HIM
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I cant believe that ANYONE thinks this is a good idea. Do Americans really want foreign leaders telling us who to vote for?
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)Just ask David Gregory.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)In fact, he had nothing to do with it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)More of a chickens coming home to roost kind of thing.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)since he wants to be involved in our political system. Just a thought.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)n/t
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Isn't it about time AIPAC finally was made to register as a foreign agent?
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)And people think that they are going to sit this one out and risk the republicans adding MORE corrupt justices??
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)takes now is money now to send this country in any direction with propaganda, even foreign propaganda. It's very dangerous and I think that SCOTUS decision will eventually be regretted my most Americans, and for many it already is ...
still_one
(92,187 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Has Adelsons grimy little hands all over it.
still_one
(92,187 posts)permission from those foreign leaders.
I am not saying he does or doesn't agree with it, I am just saying it is not from him. It could very well be from adelson, but the implication that "netenyahoo" is behind this is not accurate
but if that is what moves you go for it
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Have you not seen the pro-Romney ad featuring Bill Clinton?
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I live in Palm Beach County, Florida....I can't wait to see this piece of crap. I hope all the anti-Semites who live here and see this ad switch their allegiance to Obama...that would be poetic justice!
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)The evidence is there and it's been there for quite a long time.
jsr
(7,712 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)do I really need to spell out what they're doing?
As for Netanyahu, he's despicable too- and we'll know exactly how despicable if he doesn't make it clear he objects to this ad and demand that his image not be used.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Netenyahu could NOT be used in an ad if he objected. Period.
still_one
(92,187 posts)In fact one sees ads all the time with tactics like that.
You have made a statement that they had to have those leaders permission
Can you state the law that says that, or point me to where I can find it?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)As I wrote elsewhere on this thread, Bill Clinton is featured prominently in a pro-Romney ad.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)onenote
(42,700 posts)The ad uses selected portions of Netanyahu's press conference with the Bulgarian prime minister from earlier this month. I wouldn't be surprised if it elicits from Netanyahu a statement that he didn't authorize the use of the video and while he can't stop it, he may reassert and even build on his statement that he does not want to be drawn into the election, which could be helpful to our side.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Okay, now I've seen it all.
un-FUCKING-believable.
And I wouldn't care what foreign leader it was, or what candidate they were backing. It is simply wrong.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Just pointing out that it's inaccurate to say or imply that he made or was behind the ad.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Absent a request by him not to run it, I will make that inference.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)You'll still be wrong.
He didn't make the ad.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You say it is "inaccurate" to say that he endorses or has authorized the ad.
On what fact is that based? Lack of knowledge is not a fact, and absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
If I were a world leader, and someone made a commercial like that to influence an election in another country, I would expressly deny authorization in no uncertain terms.
still_one
(92,187 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)So Romney, Netanyahu, GOP has nothing to do with this, it's a super pac right but check this out (Sorry about the nasty link but I needed it):
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2011/02/13/Pollsters-Launch-Network-to-Inject-National-Security-Issues-Into-the-Public-Dialog
John McLaughlin owns McLaughlin & Associates and if you scroll down their political client list the last entry is the tie that binds.
http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/5
People and organizations with whom the personnel of McLaughlin & Associates have been involved include:
Republican National Committee
National Republican Senatorial Committee
National Republican Congressional Committee
Republican Governors Association
California Republican Party
Florida Republican Party
Illinois Republican Party
Kentucky Republican Party
Montana Republican Party
New York State Republican Party
New York State Conservative Party
North Carolina Republican Party
Ohio Republican Party
South Dakota Republican Party
Virginia Republican Party
Wisconsin Republican Party
Illinois House Republican Campaign Committee
Indiana House Republican Campaign Committee
Indiana Senate Majority Campaign Committee
New Jersey Republican State Senate Committee
New York Republican Assembly Campaign Committee
New York State Senate Republican Campaign Committee
Nassau County Republican Committee
Conservative Party (Canada)
Conservative Party (United Kingdom)
Likud Party (Israel)
Likud Party's Chairman (CEO whatever) is Netanyahu.
Here's the clencher, Netanyahu and Mitt Romney are all tied to the Boston Consulting Group (going by the Muckety Relationship map) they are shows as "advisers". I'm going to speculate some more and say any ad using Netanyahu's image, I have no doubt it has been approved and given a blessing.
I won't even go into Sheldon Adelson - we all know where he's coming from and what he's most involved in.
Ok, done speculating. Apologies if this seems wild but I feel like we are in wild times, dealing with some wild people capable of doing anything..
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Might come as a surprise to Romney, but Bibi is not popular, especially not in this country.
ecstatic
(32,699 posts)Jewish people or evangelicals? If the former, I don't think it will work--it'll probably backfire. They are informed voters and that's why Obama is leading Romney 73 to 27 within that group.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I wouldn't worry about this ad at all.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)but injecting himself repeatedly into an American election repeatedly on behalf of Rmoney really takes the fking cake. An ambulatory turd, he is.
cali
(114,904 posts)now if he doesn't repudiate it and demand it be taken down....
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)...do you think the Super PAC would have even thought to put this forward without first getting his OK? Because if he DOES repudiate it, it could back fire like crazy on them, so I've gotta think that these guys at least talked with him to let him know what was going on.
But then again, maybe they are just getting desperate. I guess we'll see what happens.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There are pro-Romney ads featuring Bill Clinton.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)By ALAN CULLISON
MOSCOWRussia accused the U.S. of trying to influence elections inside the country under the guise of aid to pro-democracy groups, confirming it is kicking the U.S. Agency for International Development out of the country and warning it doesn't need any further the U.S. funding of civic groups.
The demarcation is the most serious blow yet to the "reset" in relations with Russia that had been an avowed accomplishment of the Obama administration. It signals that Vladimir Putin is planning a dramatically harder tack toward Russian civic groups, the fostering of which had been a key component the White House's "dual track" engagement of both the Kremlin and its critics.
In a tersely worded statement, Russia's foreign ministry said Russia was expelling USAID because the agency wasn't working within its stated goals, and that its workers were trying to "influence the political process through the distribution of grants" to groups of its choosing.
The ministry said USAID's activities raised "serious question" in Russia's regions, but especially in the North Caucasus, where the Kremlin is facing a simmering Islamist insurgency. The statement confirmed that USAID had until Oct. 1 to cease activities in Russia, a pressing deadline that U.S. officials had declined to mention previously in an apparent hope it would be delayed.
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Panasonic
(2,921 posts)is off the air.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)war. Hell I will fatten my son up so the military won't take him.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And how relatively commonplace they are?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #89)
Mosby This message was self-deleted by its author.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)The post implies that if Romney wins, he will be beholden to the leader of Israel. A bit of a stretch, of course, but hardly anti-semitic.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)a bit of a stretch and of course I know it really wouldn't happen. To be honest I am shocked someone would think that.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Do you really believe that? Or can you elaborate on what you were trying to express? Maybe I misunderstood.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)People get so touchy. He could be the Polish President I would have said the same thing. Mittens has not core values. He says yes to any leader that is on the right. Bibi seems to be putting himself on Romney's side and in our politics. That is all I meant. Nothing to do with being Jewish. My goodness if you feel insulted am sorry. I never meant it like that.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I did (and do) find it strange that you think Netanyahu would be the next POTUS if Romney won. The idea of the US being run by the PM of Israel (which seemed to be implied by your post) seems really far fetched.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)right what to do. Christ he isn't even his own person anymore. I don't know who he is. He bends right and extreme right. Which ever the crowd he is in now.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Thanks for clarifying!
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)rsweets
(307 posts)He does know that the Pres has a very good chance of
being re-elected right. I wonder how much he got paid
for the use of his image???
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The responses to this post are ridiculous.
mzmolly
(50,992 posts)acting like world police.
Good luck with that ad, anonymous donors.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)Bibi is no dummy.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)We'll have to wait until November to see what the vote count is in these cities.
I think Netanyahu's wasting his money. I look for Obama to win them.
cali
(114,904 posts)and others in this thread exemplify it. Either that or you're deliberately twisting the facts. This is not Netanyahu's ad. And my guess is that he repudiates it rather quickly. this just doesn't serve him.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)We've got it. We KNOW that it's paid for by a shadowing group of Romney fans (aka Sheldon Adelson who IS close to Netanyahu) WE KNOW IT. Okay??? But we also know that Romney is bought and paid for by Sheldon, and they've been exploiting that connection to Sheldon's bestest pal in Israel.
And honestly.. you think that ANY head of State is going to stand for being used in a political ad?? Nope. They wouldn't.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Clearly that person did not know it wasn't Bibi's own ad.
And head of state or not, he doesn't have a choice if someone wants to include his public remarks in an ad.
MrBig
(640 posts)Reading through this thread, people are questioning why Bibi would put up his own money, why he would run this ad or be allowed to run it, etc.
Clearly one post informing people of the truth isn't sufficient as people will continue to believe falsehoods until it's thrown in their face. Quite honestly, this is how rumors get spread and why people still believe that the person behind the anti-Islam video was an Israeli Jew when he was actually a Coptic Christian.
still_one
(92,187 posts)There are enough legitimate things to criticize Israel and its leadership on, so lets just blame this on them also, even though it is guilt by association, which incidentally the republicans tried to use against Obama in 2008 by associating him with individuals who were part of the weather underground, radical "Muslims", etc.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)the f-ing Likud Party has brought to the middle east, and how, if you want MORE peace, you should pressure Congress to start bombing Iran immediately.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)anyone in the Israeli government approved this?
Netanyahu isn't running the ad.
still_one
(92,187 posts)even what the article states
If that doesn't speak volumes
onenote
(42,700 posts)that uses video clips of the President making a public speech. The answer is no one. The clips of Netanyahu are from his public press conference with the Bulgarian prime minister earlier this month. There is no reason to think he or anyone else in the Israeli government "approved" the use of the tapes since there was no reason for the producer of the ad to seek such approval.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)there is no way in HELL that this was done without his permission. Israel's leadership is beyond touchy.. there is no way they'd try this without permission. Period.
still_one
(92,187 posts)otherwise. That is, did netanyahu or the Israeli government gave their permission?
Even if the views in the ad, and I haven't seen the ad, express the sentiments of netanyahu, doesn't mean they had his permission. In fact they don't need his permission.
Raksha
(7,167 posts)Whoever it is, I bet he's sweating right now, or will be pretty soon. I have a feeling this is going to backfire big time.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I have been slammed as anti-semitic by Zionists here, but I am going to say this.
If Israelthinks it can meedle in our poltics so we can fight yet another war for them to beneift from, than I say that Bibi should be counted as another one of America's ENEMIES in the Mid east. Not the people, not the jews, not the arabs, but HIM, yes.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Important to remember that.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Oddly many seems to have missed who actually placed the ad.
(Hint: It wasn't Israel or the Israeli PM)
I wonder if the poster of the OP got the response they wanted.
still_one
(92,187 posts)Not the fact that it is from a republican super pac
but their belief that Israel is behind this
They don't need the facts, just something to blame Israel on
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That is all I have to say. And even from public sources, since the impression will be there, the Israeli government can demand it be removed, or simply not playes.
But you knew that.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Read the OP and read it carefully.
If you do, you will find that the Israeli government had nothing to do with this ad.
If they "demand it be removed" then that would be an example of Israel interfering with the US election process.
But you knew that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)By inference, but you knew this.
If they got any brains they will buy add space explaining they have zero to do with this.
I am amazed people are that thick. I know the targets of this...they will believe that Bibi just told thm to vote for Romney to save Israel from a second holocaust.
I give up, I truly do.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There is no "interference" as the group is American, not Israeli.
It seems like some are deliberately implying (or downright stating) that the Israeli government is somehow responsible for an ad even though they clearly had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Anyone can make an ad including a public figure making remarks on a news program.
Do you think Bill Clinton approved of the pro-Romney ads that show him speaking critically about Obama?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)how many of the targets WILL READ THE FRACKING FINE PRINT!!!!!!!!
I definitely give up. I take it you do not know the targets of this.
On the bright side, this will make it even beyond our borders and I will get it in the chain of emails I usually delete.
Oy
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Netanyahu did not make the ad. Israel did not pay for the ad. Israel had nothing to do with the ad.
Can we agree on that at least?
I think I know who the targets are of this ad, but blame the ad-makers if you think the ad is dangerous.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)silence is consent, but whatever. Good bye, we agree to disagree to the nth degree.
On the bright side, I know what to expect from my idiot brother...
OY
GOOD NEWS, he does not have a vote in this election.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Well done.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)"Countries are people too" - Romney
What's fucking next? So it's ok now to use any other countries leader to push for a candidate ...or against one. Here's mine: "Hitler would love Romney. (Nazi film clips run in the background) Hitler knew how to create jobs and Romney will do the same."
jsr
(7,712 posts)which is not required to disclose its donors. Plausible deniability. Nice.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Someone else is running it and using quotes made by Netanyahu to support whatever argument they are trying to make.
You may have noticed that there is a pro-Romney ad using quotes from Clinton as well.
That doesn't mean Clinton ran the ad.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Speculating about what Hitler would think of Romney is not the same as including verbatim remarks from world leaders in public forums and on news stations.
Also you used the phrase "Iran can run an ad" which implied that Israel ran this one - so I wanted to clear up that apparent confusion.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is a message forum - isn't arguing where there are areas of disagreement part of the point?
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)The Repukes have been using Fidel Castro for decades to scare the old Cubans into voting. Nothing new here, unfortunately.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)They are scum suckers.