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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you believe in the wisdom of the crowd theory Susan Rice has pulled into the lead at predictit
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination50 Shades Of Blue
(10,064 posts)rurallib
(62,465 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,064 posts)I know they all have pluses and minuses, but IMO her minuses are insurmountable.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,064 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,064 posts)Clash City Rocker
(3,402 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,686 posts)As wrong as they are, its a distinct vulnerability along with Rices lack of elected office experience.
The VPs number one function is to help the ticket win. Rice, despite her numerous qualifications, is not the strongest candidate to push the Dems over the top.
lostnfound
(16,193 posts)Another example of GOP overselling a distorted story.
My first choice is Elizabeth Warren for the sake of the economy and overall diverse experience, but my second choice is Susan Rice because she is tough and smart as hell, and had Obamas trust, and as an African American woman on the ticket she would reward our most loyal voters black women for their loyalty.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)that Benghazi is a negative for Rice. She went on all the Sunday morning shows to say it was caused by a video. That turned out to be untrue. This was the sole reason she couldnt be confirmed as Secretary of State.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)nolabear
(41,999 posts)Made me wonder if they werent trying to make a preemptive strike, just in case.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)I want Harris for AG and Warren for Senate Majority Leader.
of course I want a lot. I'll settle for a Biden win.
lostnfound
(16,193 posts)That might be a great option. But I dont know how that would happen. Its not a political pick, its elected by the democratic senate caucus, correct?
barbtries
(28,815 posts)We have to win the Senate for it to happen, and I think but am not certain that she has to run for it.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)If they arent there is no chance Warren will be Majority Leader.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)They happen abruptly via a handful of investors as opposed to public swarming.
In sports I normally know where the inside information came from. I have enough connections in Las Vegas who find out and relay to me. This I have no idea.
I hope it is accurate. I can rationalize Kamala Harris. I'd be overjoyed with Susan Rice. It would almost like we've turned the corner in terms of fearlessness and clarity. Harris would feel like scared and strategic.
2naSalit
(86,843 posts)I hope she is the VP pick. She already knows what needs to be done to stop the bleeding. I couldn't care less whether she has held elected office or not, she has the qualifications, diplomatic skills and demeanor to hold any office and I hope she runs and wins in 2024.
Anyone who doesn't know about her should pay attention more.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)At 7 cents, Karen Bass is a really good buy.
-Laelth
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That seems to indicate some so-called wise guys unloaded their Bass shares and switched the money to Rice.
I always prefer predicting results to predicting somebody's opinion. That's all this is. I'm rooting for Rice but I'm not investing in it.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Evidently the wise guys think they know something.
-Laelth
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That topic is all over the latest comments in that thread.
I always do best on Predictit when I ignore the comments. There are sharp guys there but tons of jackass right wingers
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I have made that exact same error before. I predicted the person at the top of the list, after having seen the list, but I lost, big time, because the person at the top of the list WAS NOT the person with a check by their name.
-Laelth
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I say Karen Bass is a steal at 6 cents.
This market seems extraordinarily volatile to me.
-Laelth
DFW
(54,448 posts)Supporting President Clintons re-election
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Great reminder toward why I stay away from markets like that. I don't have a cheat sheet advantage like the ideological percentages.
These are great markets only if you can anticipate major price swings and lock up a profit no matter who is picked. I had friends in Las Vegas who specialized in that type of thing. Their theory was to continually make great bets based on the odds, whether you liked the team or not. I really should have done more of that. When I did it was successful. Tons of guys on Predictit operate that way. They take advantage of the overreaction and don't really care about the result. I remember the day Kavanuagh and his accuser testified the numbers were moving 30 and 40 cents from morning to afternoon.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I did see where Rice was briefly ahead.
It definitely seems like those two are the runaway favorites at this point.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Politico had a pre-written blurb dated August 1 with quotes from Biden on why he selected Harris. This is very standard procedure. It's just like obituaries of prominent people written well in advance, so it's plug and play once the news breaks.
But the wagering geniuses on Predictit don't know anything about pre-writes so they used the Politico blurb as if it were an actual leak. That's why the price shifted. Read all the comments below the price table and you can see the hilarity within.
Those sites are not nearly as sophisticated as the sports betting realm I am accustomed to. Nate Silver made a wisecrack tweet two days ago about the political markets being out of whack. But that's the beauty of it because there are many bargains.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)The Biden campaign is going to emphasize that the ticket has necessary experience, unlike Trump who never held elective office before. I think that the VP will be a senator or a governor.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,390 posts)Harris 62, Rice 24, Warren 6, Bass 6, Demings 5, Duckworth 4.
Anything that changeable must be just a few punters messing around with no idea apart from social media.