Can no one wrap their head around this? TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN AGENT!

[Atticus]

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Whether the source of Putin's power over him is billions in bribes or videos of Trump having sex with Lolitas or animals, the result is the same: Putin can do no wrong and will be denied no favor.

Crimea? What's the problem?

Determining who wins US elections? Putin denied it "very strongly".

Betraying our allies? Well, they were weak and didn't pay me---er, US---enough.

Bounties on our soldiers? Intelligence did not say what they said and, besides, they never told me.

Withdraw US troops from Germany? Germans are not paying me---er, US---enough and their leader is a woman.

Trump is a traitor and his primary defense is that he hasn't hidden any of his betrayals.

I do not favor the death penalty for Trump. He should die in prison---a gray, bald, pot-bellied, drooling maniac.

[ret5hd]

1. and Melanoma is his handler.

[marlakay]

22. If she was she wouldn't look so weak

In most earlier photos, especially right after they won, she looked like death was before her. If she really was a handler for Russia she would have a secret smile on her face and look more confident.

[ret5hd]

27. Have you ever been the boss of someone so utterly inept...

so totally incompetent, so blatantly defective...yet, the responsibility for that person was thrust upon you and your very career and future depends on the success of that person?

Yeah, i'd look like shit too.

[calimary]

40. She was dressed for Palm Beach.

That night when the family was trotted out behind him after it was announced that he'd won, she was wearing a slinky lounging pajama outfit - a one-shoulder white jumpsuit with a slit up-to-here. She was dressed as though she expected they'd lose and she could just go back to her cushy life as a rich civilian who didn't have to care - or even look as though she cared - about anybody or anything outside her own little fiefdom run by her husband. She was NOT dressed like a First Lady-elect.

[Richard D]

56. Part of her job is . . .

. . ., um, taking care of a mushroom? That would make anyone look weak, unhappy, ill, and generally miserable.

[soldierant]

69. I don't quite get why everyone seems to think that a handler is incapable of dissembling -

or at least incapable of competently dissembling.

If I were a handler of a very public person, weak is exactly how I would want to look. I doubt I could do it very well - but then I haven't had the training that handlers have.

I would be very shy of trying to determine whether a person is a handler based on his or her demeanor. QED's remark may be the most pertinent here.

[certainot]

87. limbaugh is his handler ---puti limbaugh trump. everything trump does is backed up or prefaced by

limbaugh.

all putin had to do is figure out how to feed limbaugh to get control of/sabotage the GOP and he did that back in 2008 with or so with palin and the teabags and then he figured out how to tie a dumbass trump to it

[QED]

37. I agree with that

One article reporting on his decision making process was that he always listened to Melania and took her advice.

[evilhime]

71. I think you are correct

And have been saying that for a long time. We shall see. My kid says he is sure that sometime before January 20 he'll be on a plane for Moscow (or I think some non extradition country).

[Lars39]

81. The tell was the warm smile she gave Putin.

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[lagomorph777]

2. I don't know what it's going to take. The reality-exclusion field is very powerful.

I don't know how Turd could make it any more obvious that he's working for Putin. It's like he enjoys rubbing our noses in it.

[triron]

15. Because enough of our elected representatives in congress (the Senate) are betraying the country.

[BadgerMom]

38. Unfortunately, correct.

[OMGWTF]

44. Recall the Rethuglican cabal that went to Russia on the 4th of July

[Delmette2.0]

47. Thank you for bringing that up.

My Senator Daines was with them. He acts like it never happened.

[yellowdogintexas]

92. My Congressional Representative, Kay Granger was on that trip also

The only House Member and the only woman

[vrguy]

3. I Want To Say It Out Loud.

He is compromised!

[soothsayer]

4. Yeah he is

Link to tweet

?s=21


Exactly what a Russian Agent would say...

Never thought I would see the day an American President would attempt to normalize KGB one of the most brutal organizations.

And yes American’s need to never forget that Putin is a KGB AGENT

Link to tweet

?s=21


Same type of answer the traitor gave during elections when he defended Putin's murders. Trump said we kill people too. I don't understand how a traitor acting on behalf of an enemy is allowed to have access to all intelligence and conduct our foreign policy on behalf of Russia

[dalton99a]

8. +1

[NightWatcher]

5. Thought Experiment: IF trump were a Putin Puppet, what more would he be doing to hurt the USA?

How could trump act any more like a Soviet Union Stooge?

[DSandra]

31. Exactly, it makes total sense what Trump is doing if you consider that he is a mole

And a mole does things like sabotage the country they are in. Trump has seemingly done everything he can to sabotage this country’s future and the fates of Americans, and destroy this country’s standing in the world, and effectively leading to the demise of the west as the leader of the world.

As bad as the west has been, it has been the primary defender of democracy, human rights, and other things we may take for granted until we are living in a totalitarian dictatorship. Not defending the west during this time may mean the death of democracy and human rights, and vulnerable groups like certain races and lgbt people might have to pay a tragic price.

People need to connect the dots... Cui Bono

[BannonsLiver]

6. I've had mine wrapped around it for 4 years now

[grantcart]

7. Not an agent, a target of blackmail

[soothsayer]

9. I'm torn between agent and asset

Is he just so dumb he’s being manipulated? Or does he know what he’s doing?

[grantcart]

13. The clip from MJ was the most revealing IMO.

He could have handled the bounty question with a very standard formulated answer

"Of course it is a sensitive matter and we are still ascertaining all of the facts and once we know the full facts of the case we will take appropriate action.

Some of those actions will be public and others unseen. Some of the best actions are never seen, they might have already begun, I cannot discuss it."

That is the kind of formulated answer he rolls out on releasing his taxes, "audit", etc..

In this case he isn't trying to answer the question with his rambling nuclear proliferation nonsense, he is trying to get people to stop asking the question.

He is being blackmailed.

[calimary]

50. Putin has him on a short leash. I've long suspected Putin arranged to "relieve" his debt

to Oleg Deripaska and other Russian oligarchs. Which, I suspect, Putin "took over" so he'd have total control.

In my opinion, anyway, he assured trump he was "taking care of him (his debt)" and everything would be alright. The non-spoken signal was "...as long as you play your cards right." And trump being the habitual insinuator he is, probably got the message.

He's on a leash. His ass belongs to Putin now. Putin holds the pink slip and the vehicle registration and the ownership documents, and nothing more needs to be said. And trump is obliged to check in with his new owner on a regular basis, and whenever a "need" arises.

[triron]

16. He knows what he is doing. He doesn't care and he probably does most of it for malice.

[DTomlinson]

62. [phone]

[Dios Mio]

94. Ass hat.

[soothsayer]

95. Correct answer!

[not_the_one]

54. He was bought lock, stock and barrel, with the first loan from Pootie's oligarchs, decades ago.

He is an asset. Putin may have a video, but that is just insurance. His core wouldn't even care if there WAS a video.

The turd doesn't give a damn about this country. His only accomplishments (IF you could call them that) were achieved through lying and cheating. We don't believe his con. We aren't bowing down and treating him like a king, so he will teach us.

Chaos and division is what his orders from Putin were, and he has delivered. BIGLY. Removing sanctions? Done.

He is under the delusion that SOMEWHERE, they are going to allow him to be has rich and powerful as the russian oligarchs are. Sadly he is mistaken. No one will have any use for him past his expiration date of 11-3-20 (or when the vote is finalized).

WE need to hit him with RICO (money laundering), freeze his assets (as soon as it is allowed), and at 12:16 pm 1-20-21, arrest and shackle him, put him in a cell and throw away the key. I would not care if he was executed for treason. The death penalty is fraught with systemic inequitable results, but in his case, I would be willing to make an exception. I would volunteer to "flip the switch", gladly.

His entire klan needs to be arrested, too. They are accomplices in money laundering. Except Barron and Tiffany.

THEN we need to start arresting the republicans who have become Putin assets. GET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. If they took 1$ in bribe/donations, and turned their head while the turd destroyed this country, arrest their ass.

But, my money is on Saudi Arabia. The turd won't even go to the inauguration. That is why we need to make SURE his plane tires are flat. Just In Case.

[grantcart]

72. I believe that the real issue is getting rid of sanctions

There are close to $ 800 billion in oil exploration contracts that would become available for bidding the day that sanctions are removed.

The going fee for "fixing" a problem like this is 3%.

If you set the initial round at a very low $ 400 billion Trump is looking at clearing $ 10- 15 Billion. I bet that Trump/Putin have recorded agreements and that is what he is holding against him.

Russians always use both a stick AND a carrot.

Just my 2 cents

[Maven]

73. Functionally the same thing. nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

74. Blackmail or not, he is voluntarily

doing Putin’s bidding. If he’s being blackmailed, he still has no excuse. He’s still an agent. He can always refuse to do Putin’s bidding. And suffer the consequences that HE manufactured.

[dalton99a]

10. Donald Trump is a traitor to the United States.

It is clear as day

[Evolve Dammit]

23. agree

[soothsayer]

11. Good timeline of his Russia involvement

https://www.sutori.com/story/timeline-you-might-be-interested-in--pTTyLH39r7FsRtF51JZi4BVt#.XIAjFasxveV.twitter

[Sugarcoated]

51. Wow this is excellent!

Do you know the person who put this together, or know who they are?

[soothsayer]

53. No idea but I wish they'd continue it.

Those links go to sources. It’s a rather interesting rabbit hole to fall down.

[soothsayer]

12. And more repugs tied up in Russian money

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213725452

[mahina]

14. Oh, yes, clearly.

[jcgoldie]

17. NO PUPPET NO PUPPET YOU'RE THE PUPPET!

Gosh if only it had been completely obvious from the very beginning...

[kentuck]

18. I am reminded of Maya Angelou...

When a person tells you who they are, believe them.

[Blue Owl]

19. Daddy Vladdy's Voodoo Doll Hands Toady

It’s all starting to make sense...

[iluvtennis]

20. Putin's pulling trump's strings.

[leftyladyfrommo]

21. They know but don't care.

He helps them reach their nefarious ends.

[Lonestarblue]

24. Once Trump is of no further use to Putin, will he turn on him?

Probably the only way Trump can be proven to be a Russian asset is if Putin releases the evidence. Once Trump is out of office, he might still be of use to Putin because he is likely to start his own media show to be even more false than Fox News. Putin would support that because he hates the US and the more divided we are, the better for him. Would Putin bankroll such an operation? Given Trump’s history, US banks might not touch him, and even Deutsche Bank might be wary. Strange times ahead even if Biden wins the election. And then of course in 2024, we’ll have Princess Ivanka and dumber-than-dirt Donnie Jr. vying to be president. Trump himself will be in full-blown dementia by then.

[Evolve Dammit]

25. The Axios interview on HBO revealed more of the same. Absolutely protecting Putin. 24-7-365.

[amb123]

26. Yes. Die in prison like Charlie Manson.

[dlk]

28. Cognitive dissonance is very real and very dangerous

Our country is currently experiencing more than one epidemic. The thought, it can’t happen here” puts us all at serious risk.

[SayItLoud]

29. "Foreign Agents": today, are NOT

like their historical, cinematic representations. We live in a time not of micro film and film noir winks and nods. Hide in plain sight resounds because that is what we are experiencing with tRUMP. Tearing up transcripts of discussions with Putin, banning US cleared and approved translators from one on one meetings with Putin only to rely on the Russian translator should be all the evidence one needs to know tRUMP is a Russian asset and more. Putin is smart, calculated and now "president of Russia" for "life" meaning he's everything tRUMP wants to be. Rich, powerful and a DICKtator....One difference, Putin is corrupt and smart while tRUMP is just corrupt.
That's my rant. Just sayin..

[ElementaryPenguin]

30. I've wrapped my head around this fact for several years now!!

It's incredible that he's been allowed to remain in office.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

45. I was surprised he made the nomination...

I thought powerful people would squash him early. Trump was no secret, everybody knew he was a crook, racist and on and on. The roots of this corruption are very deep.

[Sogo]

63. My thoughts exactly, EP....

[niyad]

32. Most of us here have known this for years.

[world wide wally]

33. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That is all.

[Mr. Evil]

34. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Putin is this generation's psychotic that believes it's his destiny to rule the world.
He's KGB trained and experienced. Which means that he lives to ratfuck everything, anything and anyone that can be ratfucked outside of Russia, for his benefit. A blabbering braggart doofus like DT is the perfect mark for the likes of Putin.

[lastlib]

35. (you left out.....

I do not favor the death penalty fo Trump. He should die in prison---a gray, bald, pot-bellied, drooling maniac.

...blubbering.)
But maybe that's redundant......

[dchill]

36. That has been obvious all along.

[triron]

39. To me as well. Since 2016.

[Liberal In Red State]

41. I've been saying this for almost 5 years - don't think anyone will say it cause they don't want

to punish him for treason - pentalty is severe.

[triron]

49. I honestly don't think that's the reason, at least not for the media.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

42. Ok Atticus...you changed my mind...

I wanted to see trump up against his wall and let the firing squad do their damage. I will agree with your last sentence under one condition...the walls, floors and ceiling of his cell must be mirrored with unbreakable material.

Make that narcissist watch his fetid, festering decline.

[Atticus]

48. Nice touch. nt

[ChazInAz]

79. One last detail.

Twenty-four hours camera coverage from all angles. Just so we can witness his descent.

[NNadir]

43. I firmly believe if he lives to January, he will die in prison.

[samsingh]

46. unfortunately, i believe you are right.

[hamsterjill]

52. Thanks for saying what everyone is thinking.

It’s the only thing that makes any sense, except that he’s not the only one. That’s the million dollar question. Who else and how many?

[RainCaster]

55. I would like a very public execution

It could even be held on ppv. As long as a copy goes in to the national archive.

[live love laugh]

66. I've been yearning for a firing squad like the old movies. nt

[GETPLANING]

57. Agent, no. Asset, absolutely

Russia is very good at this, turning people into assets, sometimes without them even realizing it. Trump isn't smart enough to be an agent, but his psychological vulnerabilities make him an easy target for manipulation.

[ScratchCat]

58. He's definitely an "asset"

And its so obvious, that the refusal of the Democrats to impeach him OVER THIS is infuriating. Impeachment should have started the day he stood there in Helsinki and took Putin's side. But noooooo, couldn't have that. Unreal. For the record - this is exactly why so many independents and never-trump republicans don't believe most the Russia stuff - they say if the Democrats believed it to be real, they would have impeached him over it. Hard to argue with them, right? Him being blackmailed by Putin is a bit more serious than the Ukraine/Biden thing that was easily foiled just by making it public(once the public found out what Trump was trying to get Ukraine to do, the fake "investigation announcement" scheme was pointless). Hopefully people go vote for Biden this time and don't stay home like they did in 2016 because they didn't like Hillary.

[Mersky]

59. Helsinki was the last shred of a straw for me

And that was back in July 2018.

[byronius]

60. It has become obviously axiomatic.

And I hope we don't hurt any Russians when the inevitable lashback comes -- just the plutocrats who destroyed Russia's fledgling democracy.

That Magnitsky Act is going to sting when it's enforced. Believe it. Vladimir will go from the world's wealthiest man to a pauper unable to pay for his private army of assassins.

I'm going to grave dance on that asshole. I do not grave dance as a rule but that fucker is the love child of Hitler and Stalin and the worst enemy America and the world has ever faced. He desperately needs a grave, and I'm going to dance on it.

[DTomlinson]

61. Unfortunately, Trump is all too American in his evil.

[Enoki33]

64. Think the traitor is unquestionably a Russian asset. He doe not

have the intelligence, training or discipline to be an agent. Putin and the old KGB spent years seeking out the soft underbelly of the US and found it in our politics. The traitor was selected and bought by Putin to institute the horror show of the past 3+ years. Putin specialized in recruiting assets disguised as businessmen, as he did early in his European assignment. tRump is a traitor, and should be treated as such. Wonder if he already has Russian citizenship?

[live love laugh]

65. Yep they targeted Trump back in the early 80's. He's a tool. nt

[PatrickforO]

67. He is a traitor.

There has never been any doubt in my mind.

As to the death penalty, I'm good either way.

[KatyBR]

68. YOU FORGOT TO LIST HIS SILENCE on Putin putting a BOUNTY PRICE on American Soldier's heads

This is to me the biggest sign. Putin puts a bounty on American soldier's LIVES and Trump has zero response?!
And did you hear that Trump has talked to Putin on the phone SEVEN TIMES since March.

[jimlup]

70. I think what the Russians have on tRump has nothing to do with sex ...

I suspect it is far worse (at least in the monsters eyes anyway.)

[WinstonSmith4740]

75. Prison's too good for him.

And his evil spawn. (Although I am willing to cut Tiffany and Barron slack) Ever see "Trading Places"? You punish rich people by making them poor. I mean, at the end of the day, if we all had to liquidate and pay all our debts, most of us would be worth more than him. But he thinks he's rich, and lives the life style, so make him poor. Out on the street with the clothes on his back. He wouldn't last a day.

[warmfeet]

76. I doubt he is an agent. That would require intelligence far above his

demonstrated abilities. More likely, he is just a compromised dipshit who managed to get into the oval office by accident. Nevertheless, he needs to go by hook or by crook, and very soon.

[Cha]

77. Yes the Treasonous trump is and has been since the beginning

[DEbluedude]

78. I'd say asset. Too much of a moron...

to be an agent. Putin's playing him like a fiddle. Putin's oligarchs are backing trumps Deutsche Bank loans. Follow the money.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

80. Trump wouldn't qualify to be a Russian agent just like he wasn't qualified to be president.

I prefer to call him a Russian puppet, a job that doesn't require a brain........

Popular Russian Furby......



KY

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

82. As far as the intel on the bounties, "It was never on my desk."

A con man chooses his words carefully. He might have been told about the bounties verbally. He might have been shown a chart identifying the issue and presenting possible responses -- but in neither case was the intelligence report on his desk.

I noticed that during the interview he made this statement verbatim repeatedly: "It was never on my desk."

He also pulled his favorite dodge: "There are those who say just the opposite." Like Putin?

[triron]

83. Seems like the media can't. Or they don' want to. In which case, why?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

84. LincolnsBible has been pointing this out for a few years. Donnie is a CI (snitch).

LincolnsBible has had a 35+ year career with one of the big three intelligence agencies: FBI, CIA, NSA. That is all she will say. On her twitter feed she goes into great detail about his Russian mob ties, his previous New York Genovese and Gambino mob ties, and the multigenerational sleaze he is involved in. All his crooks know each other, for two, three and four generations. For example, KellyAnne Conway's grandfather was Jimmy "The Brute" diNatale.

twitter.com/LincolnsBible

An interview with LincolnsBible:
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/give-me-secrecy-and-give-me-death

Excerpt:

donald is a filthy criminal, just like his father. And it isn’t just tax laws he breaks. As early as the 1980s, donald faced indictments for laundering blood money from organized crime syndicates through his development projects and casinos (at the very least). This is a well-reported and exhaustively sourced statement of fact. And there were RICO and organized crime investigations around his business partners—on his projects—in the late 70s. As Greg stated in a prior article, there is no universe in which donald was not used as a CI in these investigations. To think otherwise, you would have to believe the FBI Organized Crime/Criminal Investigative Division to be a bungling gaggle of nincompoops.

GO: Voiceover: The FBI Organized Crime/Criminal Investigative Division is not a bungling gaggle of nincompoops.

LB: So, to get out of the indictment noose, donald ratted on the mobsters who owned him. The evidence of this is that he was never indicted (or, an indictment against him was never unsealed). Considering the largess of the known organized crime bosses that donald worked with/for—Roy Cohn, Tony Salerno, John Cody and Paul Castellano, Nicky Scarfo, Vyacheslav Ivankov, Mogilevich—it’s safe to assume that donald was a top echelon informant.

[wiggs]

85. k n r. nt

[Danascot]

86. And he is very publicly

plotting the overthrow of the US government. That should be enough, right?

[leanforward]

93. He is a russian agent.

Thanks to oligarch business. How else could he have stayed in business. They were his cash flow.

[LymphocyteLover]

96. I thought this even before he was elected and after his first few months, was convinced