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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:38 AM Sep 2012

EXCLUSIVE: Moby Speaks Out About The Secret Tapings Of Mitt Romney, And His Comments About The 47%.



september 19.
-

ok, i think i figured it out.
mitt romney is disdainful of anyone receiving government assistance because:

1- he comes from a rich and privileged background, so he’s never needed or
received government assistance.

and

2- he comes from a rich and privileged background, so he’s never known
anyone who’s needed or received government assistance.

almost everyone i know has received some sort of government assistance,
whether it’s student loans or small business loans or medicare
or medicaid, and almost everyone i know now pays taxes and contributes to
society.

i’ll use myself as an example.

i was the only child of a single working mom. we struggled a lot
economically, and there were times when we lived off of food stamps and
social security and government assistance. and then when i went to university
of connecticut and suny purchase i received pell grants and student loans.

so, according to mitt romney, i was part of the 47%: “who are dependent upon
government, … who pay no income tax. … My job is not to worry about
those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal
responsibility and care for their lives.”

in the last 20 years i have either personally or professionally paid millions of
dollars in income taxes to the state, local, and federal government. i have
employed hundreds of people, who have in turn paid income taxes and in
many cases have gone on to start their own businesses.

so i think it’s safe to say that the government assistance my mother and i
received was money well spent. i was able to go to decent schools and get
a decent education, all thanks to ‘government assistance’. my mother and i
were able to eat, all thanks to ‘government assistance’. i was able
to see doctors, all thanks to ‘government assistance’. we were able to pay
our rent at times thanks to ‘government assistance’.

not to mention the roads, clean water, streetlights, police departments,
fire departments, clean air, libraries, public transit, electricity, etc
that all came from the government and enabled my mother and i to stay
alive and live good, educated, safe, and healthy lives.

mitt romney came from extreme wealth. he has never once needed financial
assistance from the government, as his family had millions and millions of
dollars.

but there are millions and millions and millions of americans like me who
didn’t come from extreme wealth and who needed help with education and
food and health care and shelter, but who have gone on to start businesses
and pay taxes.

we are not an ‘entitled’ class, we are not ‘dependent upon the federal
government’ and we do not consider ourselves ‘victims’.

we are the hundreds of millions of americans who had the misfortune of not
being born to millionaire parents.

so i understand why mitt romney is disdainful of government assistance, as
his parents paid for everything and he never needed help being fed or
educated or looked after by doctors. i understand that in mitt romney’s entire
life he’s never known anyone who’s needed student loans. he’s never known
anyone who needed food stamps to keep their family fed. he’s never known
anyone who’s had to spend hours in a health clinic just to get basic medical
care. he’s never known anyone who couldn’t pay the rent.

i understand that mitt romney grew up with phenomenal wealth and privilege
but i don’t understand why that leads him to contemptuously dismiss anyone
(like my mother and i) who have, at times, needed government help with
food and education and shelter and health care.

mitt romney is a product of wealth and privilege. that does not give him
the right to loathe and dismiss the rest of us who are not the product of
wealth and privilege.

oh, for some reason i was thinking of ‘common people’ by pulp when i heard
romney’s quotes.

-moby

“But still you’ll never get it right,
cos when you’re laid in bed at night,
watching roaches climb the wall,
if you call your Dad he could stop it all.

you’ll never live like common people,
you’ll never do what common people do,
you’ll never fail like common people,
you’ll never watch your life slide out of view.”

-Common People by Pulp
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EXCLUSIVE: Moby Speaks Out About The Secret Tapings Of Mitt Romney, And His Comments About The 47%. (Original Post) Playinghardball Sep 2012 OP
Good man BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #1
He certainly is. He's a better man than rMoney. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #2
Except that Willard Romney has used government assistance all his life. yardwork Sep 2012 #3
+10000 n/t bluethruandthru Sep 2012 #6
Moby was not in error on this. He said he never "needed" it. AllyCat Sep 2012 #14
Good point. yardwork Sep 2012 #18
Common People by Pulp progressoid Sep 2012 #4
I prefer William Shatner/Joe Jackson's cover of this song........... thelordofhell Sep 2012 #12
+1 progressoid Sep 2012 #15
he was great on Fallon a couple months ago trailmonkee Sep 2012 #17
Moby is one of the good guys. hifiguy Sep 2012 #5
I disagree AlbertCat Sep 2012 #7
This is the "American Dream!" HenryWallace Sep 2012 #8
I love him on Community!! SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #9
But Rmoney gets govt assistance. For example, $70K for horse dancing. valerief Sep 2012 #10
Mitt Romney DID live off taxpayer dollars when his old man was Governor of my state catbyte Sep 2012 #11
You know Moby, I love you and all, however... RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #13
Sarcasm? ecstatic Sep 2012 #19
Not the least bit. RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #20
where did you find this? trailmonkee Sep 2012 #16

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
3. Except that Willard Romney has used government assistance all his life.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:15 AM
Sep 2012

Romney and others like him are the real parasites. They ensure that laws allow them to raid companies and suck them dry, then deposit their profits in off-share tax shelters. Romney has used every trick in the book to obtain and conceal his wealth, apparently never paying much of anything in taxes. He used the system to drive hundreds of companies out of business and impoverish tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of people, laying them off, outsourcing their jobs, just so that he could rack up "profits."

The entire system is gamed by Romney and his class. They are the real parasites.

AllyCat

(16,183 posts)
14. Moby was not in error on this. He said he never "needed" it.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:35 PM
Sep 2012

But of course, he takes it. Hell, he demands it and stacks the machinery to make it happen for him and his wealthy buddies.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. I disagree
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

1- he comes from a rich and privileged background, so he’s never needed or
received government assistance.

and

2- he comes from a rich and privileged background, so he’s never known
anyone who’s needed or received government assistance.


He's gotten and needed PLENTY of gov. assistance.... whether he's aware of it or not.

and he knows plenty of people who have gotten and needed government assistance too..... whether he knows it or not.


I think he's just fucking clueless.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. But Rmoney gets govt assistance. For example, $70K for horse dancing.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
11. Mitt Romney DID live off taxpayer dollars when his old man was Governor of my state
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:04 PM
Sep 2012

of Michigan, damn it.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
13. You know Moby, I love you and all, however...
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:26 PM
Sep 2012

I read the first couple of paragraphs of this, and I get it and I agree with you.
But I simply could not finish it, Moby.

I hate it when smart people refuse to CAPITALIZE letters properly.
It really makes it very difficult to read.
When it's people who don't know better, I can look the other way.
But Moby, you are clearly an extremely intelligent person, and you should understand that capitalization and punctuation exist for a reason.
So while I would probably like what you wrote, I'm not going to finish it because it makes my brain hurt.

Your neighbor and pal,
RevStPatrick

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
20. Not the least bit.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:30 AM
Sep 2012

That was very difficult to read.
There are reasons why certain design principles work.
He should know better...

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