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"For my 'All Lives Matter' Friends" (Original Post) StarfishSaver Aug 2020 OP
Simple arithmetic. All lives can't matter until Black lives matter. Marcuse Aug 2020 #1
Like that wryter2000 Aug 2020 #2
This zentrum Aug 2020 #9
+1 Outstanding. Tommymac Aug 2020 #17
Algebra actually, but yeah. jaxexpat Aug 2020 #33
Beautifully done malaise Aug 2020 #3
i've moved passed that kind of response. problem is, they win if we even have that debate. unblock Aug 2020 #4
Works For Me! (nt) ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #5
kick mcar Aug 2020 #6
Whatever negative the right thinks of 'Black Lives Matter' is also applicable to 'Blue Lives Matter' keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #7
Yes, you rarely see the "all lives matter" response pandr32 Aug 2020 #26
My response to my friends on the Reich... Grins Aug 2020 #8
"Black lives matter just as much as everyone else's." Grokenstein Aug 2020 #19
Since the venn diagram of "all lives matter" and "blue lives matter" is almost a circle: Saviolo Aug 2020 #10
OMG. The lack of awareness here is dizzying. rainin Aug 2020 #22
Beautiful. nt crickets Aug 2020 #11
I'm guessing this is too long and nuanced for your average racist asshole to comprehend. BKDem Aug 2020 #12
Amen! Those are just excuses to escape commitment. Karadeniz Aug 2020 #13
Good stuff! marble falls Aug 2020 #14
Beautiful. H2O Man Aug 2020 #15
good one. and just to remind everyone, this 'all lives matter" bullshit certainot Aug 2020 #16
I have actually seen the "what about OTHER kinds of cancer" argument. Grokenstein Aug 2020 #18
Yeah, me too. "What about prostate cancer, huh???" Mariana Aug 2020 #27
That analogy jumped out at me too. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2020 #28
Similar to the mother who helps her child that is most at risk. BarbD Aug 2020 #20
I always add "When Jesus said 'Blessed are the poor', we didn't say 'No, Jesus rainin Aug 2020 #21
I've seen this before, murielm99 Aug 2020 #24
This is what inspired me to make the graphic soldierant Aug 2020 #34
OMG!!! I love this!! Thank you rainin Aug 2020 #35
YVW, and feel free to spread it widely. soldierant Aug 2020 #37
Thanks, I will! rainin Aug 2020 #38
Best ever!...thank you N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2020 #23
I had someone throw that line at me once SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #25
Well done!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goodheart Aug 2020 #29
Sometimes I wonder if they should make a slight change and call it 'Black Lives Should Matter' Quixote1818 Aug 2020 #30
It's fine as it is StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #36
If "All lives matter" had included Black lives Doreen Aug 2020 #31
K&R ck4829 Aug 2020 #32

unblock

(52,387 posts)
4. i've moved passed that kind of response. problem is, they win if we even have that debate.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

the debate should be over how to rethink policing so fewer people get shot. they're supposed to bring safety to the equation, not lethal force. yeah, we get it, sometimes they are going to have to use force and sometimes people are going to get shot or killed. but we should be doing everything we can to keep that to a minimum, and ensure that it happens only after all other reasonable alternatives have been exhausted. they're supposed to be the trained professionals at this.


if we even have a debate over what the right catchphrase to use is, or whether athletes should be allowed to kneel, or if during the national anthem is the right time to call attention to such things, and any of that, white supremacists win simply by shifting the focus of the debate to such trivial nonsense instead of finding a substantive solution.


so now, my response is to say don't change the subject. how are we going to make the police less lethal? how are we going to make police use of guns really a last resort after a series of alternatives instead of something they bring into every situation and are mentally and physically prepared to use in a split second? how are we going to make it so people aren't scared for their lives whenever they get pulled over for a routine, simple, minor traffic violation?

keithbvadu2

(36,964 posts)
7. Whatever negative the right thinks of 'Black Lives Matter' is also applicable to 'Blue Lives Matter'
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:56 PM
Aug 2020

Whatever negative the right thinks of 'Black Lives Matter' is also applicable to 'Blue Lives Matter'.

The only difference is the color.

Grins

(7,239 posts)
8. My response to my friends on the Reich...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:57 PM
Aug 2020

...who throw that crap at me has been:

“Yes. All lives matter. But not all lives are in danger, are they? When they are, get back to me.”

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
19. "Black lives matter just as much as everyone else's."
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 01:57 AM
Aug 2020

Let's see 'em pull their "I'm not racist but" crap with that.

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
10. Since the venn diagram of "all lives matter" and "blue lives matter" is almost a circle:
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:09 PM
Aug 2020

This is a pretty useful graphic to use:

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
16. good one. and just to remind everyone, this 'all lives matter" bullshit
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:44 PM
Aug 2020

was probably said millions of times on the radio all over the country to get where it is today

and it is really absurd that the LA lakers broadcast sports on 2 limbaugh stations.... and are just one pro team ouit of many others as well as 87+ universities that support 100s of those raur llocal rw radio station.dio stations that follow limbaugh in saying "white lives matter", BLM is a "marxist communist terrorist organization", and kneeling athletes are unamerican. now that they're all kneeling they might have to lighten it up on the latter, but it still starts at your local rw radio station, often supported by your local sports teams

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
18. I have actually seen the "what about OTHER kinds of cancer" argument.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

Specifically "What about testicular cancer???"

No bonus points for guessing it was an MRA/incel pitching a fit about Breast Cancer Awareness, using the "Why isn't there a White History Month" template.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
27. Yeah, me too. "What about prostate cancer, huh???"
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 01:43 PM
Aug 2020

Just ask them how much money they've given to or raised for the Prostate Cancer Foundation or the Testicular Cancer Awareness Foundation, or any similar groups. Ask them how much time they've spent promoting awareness of these conditions. If the answer is "none" they can fuck right off with their whining.

BarbD

(1,194 posts)
20. Similar to the mother who helps her child that is most at risk.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:28 AM
Aug 2020

This happens a lot in families. It's not that the other children are not loved.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
21. I always add "When Jesus said 'Blessed are the poor', we didn't say 'No, Jesus
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:29 AM
Aug 2020

Blessed are ALL people'"

I didn't make that up, I heard it from a comedian.


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SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
25. I had someone throw that line at me once
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 12:47 PM
Aug 2020

I said that All Lives couldn't matter if Black Lives didn't matter, since "black lives" was a subset of "all lives."

He just grinned and said that liberals had no right to use logic since they normally rejected it.

Quixote1818

(28,993 posts)
30. Sometimes I wonder if they should make a slight change and call it 'Black Lives Should Matter'
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

Adding the 'should' would make it a lot harder for people to manipulate and twist around.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
36. It's fine as it is
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:46 PM
Aug 2020

"Black Lives Should Matter" says something different than "Black Lives Matter."

But there's nothing wrong with people using whatever slogan they wish - there's no rule preventing anyone from saying "Black Lives Should Matter" if that's what they want to say.

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